2007 Lexus LS (Worlds first 8 Speed Gearbox)

Jmiller · January 8th, 2006, 06:24 PM

This fall, the all-new 2007 LS 460 will completely redefine luxury the world over. Take off with a 380 horsepower, 4.6-liter direct-injection V8 and the world's first eight-speed automatic transmission, launching you from 0-60 in less than 5.5 seconds.
There's also an available Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System with Bluetooth® technology (standard on LS 460L). Inside is genuine wood trim, supple leather trim and the resonant 19-speaker Mark Levinson® Reference Surround Sound System (available on LS 460 and 460L).
An 8-gigabyte audio server is available. Another first for Lexus will be the availability of the LS in both a standard- and long-wheelbase (LS 460L) model. For rear passengers of the 460L, available amenities include a center console table, climate-comfort seats and a rear-seat massager (right rear seat only). A Premium Four-Passenger Seat package with Rear-Seat Entertainment DVD System is available for the long-wheelbase model (LS 460L). The new LS-luxury that knows no borders.

Visit http://lexus.com/2007ls_preview/index.html?s_ocid=20460 for more info and pictures

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bartboy9891 · January 8th, 2006, 06:34 PM

8 sounds a little unnecessary, are they just trying to outdo MB's 7speed auto? the front looks like the Mazda3 from that angle and why is it presented by LandRover?

Kebab gud · January 8th, 2006, 06:38 PM

first off .. that is the LF-S consept .. the new LS is not going to be shown untill Lexus`s press thingi at detroit..
(or just se the URL)

second.. 8 is practicall .. thing about it .. going down the autobahn in 8th gear .. think of the milage! econamy baby!
more gears = less fule at higher speeds = more fun for the rich guys

now .. if they ownly whould sell the tranny to koenigsegg images/smilies/tongue.gif

haha604 · January 8th, 2006, 06:46 PM

Well we don't have autobahns here in North America images/smilies/sad.gif

. To me anything above 5 gears in an auto transmission is kind of unnecessary right now.

jayhawk · January 8th, 2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haha604

Well we don't have autobahns here in North America images/smilies/sad.gif

.

Yeah we do!

Its called Eastern Montana! images/smilies/lol.gif

zenkidori · January 8th, 2006, 07:07 PM

Or any plains stretch of highway for that matter.

Oh and Montana has a speed limit like everyone else now, even in the daytime. It used to be:

http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeedsign.jpg

mmap · January 8th, 2006, 07:48 PM

I think 7 was already unnessesary, how narrow a power band must an engine have if you need 8 gears?? I ask you!

Dins · January 8th, 2006, 08:03 PM

8 is just to top mb. that's it.

Jmiller · January 8th, 2006, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kebab gud

first off .. that is the LF-S consept .. the new LS is not going to be shown untill Lexus`s press thingi at detroit..
(or just se the URL)

second.. 8 is practicall .. thing about it .. going down the autobahn in 8th gear .. think of the milage! econamy baby!
more gears = less fule at higher speeds = more fun for the rich guys

now .. if they ownly whould sell the tranny to koenigsegg images/smilies/tongue.gif

The press conference was this afternoon. That is where the info came from. They showed the concept as the actual car. They said styling may change just a little. And the full details and specs of the car would not be known till later this year.

Kebab gud · January 8th, 2006, 11:22 PM

are you shure .. you se.. Lexus press shows the real car .. not the consept ..
and alot of the specs too ..
like the 380hp 4,6liter V8

If this is the real car .. why show a consept?
http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/sho...y.php?cat=3479

SL65 · January 9th, 2006, 12:02 AM

7-speed autos are excellent. When the gear changes, it only has to drop back around 2000RPM before you get going again whereas on something like a 5-speed, you drop back maybe 3,4 or even 5000 RPM. It all leads to smoother power delivery and it even helps the fuel economy aswell.

8-speeds however is going to be too much I think. The only problem noted with the 7-speeders is how sometimes the tranny doesn't always know what gear it should be in. The result of this is seen in stop-start traffic, when you can occasionally get a jerk. If Lexus can pull of a 8-speed tranny that doesn't do that, it'll be an engineering achievement. I rekon the auto-industry should try cracking transmissions one at a time - Lets first master the 7-speed.

Kebab gud · January 9th, 2006, 12:54 AM

Toyota masterd the 7 speed but found it booring .. so thay did the 8 speed images/smilies/tongue.gif

Z Draci · January 9th, 2006, 12:58 AM

They are wrong. Nissan had an 8-speed Skyline 5 years ago. It was a CVT but it had 8 gears which you can change via paddle shift. You get this in the Japanese market Skyline GT-8--the top of the line sedan model.

http://www2.nissan.co.jp/SKYLINE/V35/0411/GRADE/IMAGES/skyline_s_350gt8_b.jpg

nasauti · January 9th, 2006, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Draci

They are wrong. Nissan had an 8-speed Skyline 5 years ago. It was a CVT but it had 8 gears which you can change via paddle shift. You get this in the Japanese market Skyline GT-8--the top of the line sedan model.

In theory, you can program a CVT with as many "gears" as you want. The Honda Fit in Europe/Asia also has a CVT and its engineers programmed it with a "7-speed" step gearing.

But these CVT boxes certainly does not compare to a conventional gearbox.

If we can compare them as apples to apples, then Nissan or Honda can easily program a 9-step program to top the competition. And the race to "as many gears as you want" will never end, at least that holds true in a CVT. So we shouldn't compare a CVT to a conventional gearbox.

Chambers · January 9th, 2006, 01:53 AM

jeez those pics are from 05 january. lmao the 07 models already debuted.

Jmiller · January 9th, 2006, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chambers

jeez those pics are from 05 january. lmao the 07 models already debuted.

I will fix the pictures tomorrow Out for the night

logo · January 9th, 2006, 05:47 AM

the gearboxes are like razor blades these days, they keep increasing them :/

haha604 · January 9th, 2006, 05:52 AM

I always wonder who buys a $20 Quattro Turbo (Nope not the car, but the razor from Schick).

zenkidori · January 9th, 2006, 06:32 AM

If you guys think 8 gears is bad for narrow powerbands, look at CVT.

andyhui01 · January 9th, 2006, 06:50 AM

hmm... is this the real concept for the Lexus LS?... if it is I'm very very dissapointed

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bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: 08:47 PM Location: University of Michigan Age: 19 Posts: 7,768 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 43	8 sounds a little unnecessary, are they just trying to outdo MB's 7speed auto? the front looks like the Mazda3 from that angle and why is it presented by LandRover? __________________

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Kebab gud Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: June 29th, 2008 Location: somewhere in yupe Posts: 1,511 Rep Power: 0	first off .. that is the LF-S consept .. the new LS is not going to be shown untill Lexus`s press thingi at detroit.. (or just se the URL) second.. 8 is practicall .. thing about it .. going down the autobahn in 8th gear .. think of the milage! econamy baby! more gears = less fule at higher speeds = more fun for the rich guys now .. if they ownly whould sell the tranny to koenigsegg __________________ The Kabab Hut: http://the-kebab.blogspot.com/ (working on a better layout)

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haha604 Joined: Dec 28th, 2003 Last Online: February 13th, 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,051 Rep Power: 22	Well we don't have autobahns here in North America . To me anything above 5 gears in an auto transmission is kind of unnecessary right now.

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Or any plains stretch of highway for that matter. Oh and Montana has a speed limit like everyone else now, even in the daytime. It used to be:

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mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: 06:05 PM Location: Finland Age: 29 Posts: 1,232 Car: Opel Astra / Suzuki VX800 Rep Power: 19	I think 7 was already unnessesary, how narrow a power band must an engine have if you need 8 gears?? I ask you!

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Kebab gud Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: June 29th, 2008 Location: somewhere in yupe Posts: 1,511 Rep Power: 0	are you shure .. you se.. Lexus press shows the real car .. not the consept .. and alot of the specs too .. like the 380hp 4,6liter V8 If this is the real car .. why show a consept? http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/sho...y.php?cat=3479 __________________ The Kabab Hut: http://the-kebab.blogspot.com/ (working on a better layout)

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SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: 01:49 PM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,189 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 41	7-speed autos are excellent. When the gear changes, it only has to drop back around 2000RPM before you get going again whereas on something like a 5-speed, you drop back maybe 3,4 or even 5000 RPM. It all leads to smoother power delivery and it even helps the fuel economy aswell. 8-speeds however is going to be too much I think. The only problem noted with the 7-speeders is how sometimes the tranny doesn't always know what gear it should be in. The result of this is seen in stop-start traffic, when you can occasionally get a jerk. If Lexus can pull of a 8-speed tranny that doesn't do that, it'll be an engineering achievement. I rekon the auto-industry should try cracking transmissions one at a time - Lets first master the 7-speed.

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Kebab gud Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: June 29th, 2008 Location: somewhere in yupe Posts: 1,511 Rep Power: 0	Toyota masterd the 7 speed but found it booring .. so thay did the 8 speed __________________ The Kabab Hut: http://the-kebab.blogspot.com/ (working on a better layout)

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Z Draci Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: May 23rd, 2007 Location: Glendora/Riverside, CA Posts: 915 Rep Power: 0	They are wrong. Nissan had an 8-speed Skyline 5 years ago. It was a CVT but it had 8 gears which you can change via paddle shift. You get this in the Japanese market Skyline GT-8--the top of the line sedan model. __________________ *"The car is the closest thing we will ever create to something that is alive." - Sir William Lyons*

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