2008 Ford-Five Hundred and 2008 Ford Focus - Page 4

BerserkerCatSplat · January 8th, 2007, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaRo

Are "drum brakes" going to be the next "live rear axle"?

Plenty of small cars have drum brakes. Nissan Sentra, Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Hyundais and Kias...but z0mg! Ford is American, so they're cutting costs because they're cheap bastards! images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Honestly, this is ridiculous. The new Focus doesn't have massaging seats either. MASSAGING SEATS.

You know how it is, Japanese manufacturers can do no wrong. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Ezbok58a · January 8th, 2007, 03:48 AM

It certainly grabs your attention, unlike the last one.

Then again it's the 'Love it or Hate it' styling. Either you like it, or you don't and there's very little middle ground. images/smilies/smile.gif

Wizegui · January 8th, 2007, 07:42 AM

UK car prices are usually more expensive.You can't be sure until they get here. I still don't understand why they are using a 10 year old platform...

SL65 · January 8th, 2007, 08:43 AM

I hate those ugly Ford grills. They look worse on the SUV's they do! Ford America should hire some new designers....but they probably can't afford to right now.

The 500 is just boring and the design doesn't flow from front to back. It just looks boring.

Can someone tell me if the 500 is something the cops will use? It just looks like one of those cars...

Spazatao · January 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM

The Focus we see here is the first one, so, I guess it's kind of a miracle they managed to get a so different face to it. Ok, an ugly one , but different. The euro Focus is not going to the US because, as was said before, there it is a budget car. Here, rumours tell Ford is going to give the first Focus (still in production) a face-lift to make it look the euro one. The US Ford could at least have done that...

wooflepoof · January 8th, 2007, 03:31 PM

if they could get away with selling us those little red and yellow pedal cars they'd do it. Most of us aren't aware of he quality of cars overseas, nor do we care so companies can get away with less. shiny sells here. Ere it be plastic shiny or otherwise. these ppl buy it. I mean c'mon saturn is makig a big deal about the vectra they're selling here or aura or whatever theyre calling it

scoops · January 8th, 2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wooflepoof

if they could get away with selling us those little red and yellow pedal cars they'd do it. Most of us aren't aware of he quality of cars overseas, nor do we care so companies can get away with less. shiny sells here. Ere it be plastic shiny or otherwise. these ppl buy it. I mean c'mon saturn is makig a big deal about the vectra they're selling here or aura or whatever theyre calling it

yea, but that car is a big step up/forward for saturn so they are happy about it.... even if it isn't a good car images/smilies/tongue.gif

bartboy9891 · January 8th, 2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SL65

I hate those ugly Ford grills. They look worse on the SUV's they do! Ford America should hire some new designers....but they probably can't afford to right now.

The 500 is just boring and the design doesn't flow from front to back. It just looks boring.

Can someone tell me if the 500 is something the cops will use? It just looks like one of those cars...

no the 500 is for people that would also consider a Buick. Large car for little money. The Crown Vic has always been the Ford that cops use

Viggen · January 9th, 2007, 04:53 AM

I didn't mind the previous Five Hundred's design. Not the most exciting, but stately and conservative without showing-off. This, however, they set about ruining it. They just tacked-on a new stupid-looking front end on an unchanged body and it doesn't line-up as nice.

And the new Focus is disgusting. I mean, why can't they get their collective heads out of their asses and bring-in the Euro Focus already? And no hatchback version? Oh yeah, Americans don't like hatchbacks. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Ford is shooting themselves in the foot again, and again, and again. And they wonder why they're losing tons of money.

Ianspeed · January 9th, 2007, 05:05 AM

Why does the focus coupe look like the hyundai coupe / tiburon?

I'm sorry. I really really want Ford to come back to the front line of car design but images/smilies/puke.gif

Deanodriver · January 9th, 2007, 08:11 AM

People are going on about how to bring in the Euro Focus and the like.

I have an idea. Sell the Euro Focus/Mondeo and the Aussie Falcon in the US with the Mercury badge! Keep the 500/Fusion/US Focus for the tightarses, have the better vehicles sold as Mercurys, where they're able to demand higher prices. Basically, do what GM are doing with Saturn. (I know about the whole Merkur thing, but these cars are bigger, and they're using an already established name rather than a new one that the typical American couldn't pronounce)

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the exterior on that new Focus (especially the big chrome bars on the grille), but the interior doesn't look too bad.

The rear of the Focus actually reminds me of a BA-BF Ford Falcon (or even more of the Aussie Fairlane)

'CruiserMan · January 9th, 2007, 09:03 AM

And that'd give Ford Australia more development money, so we might be able to get a decent V8 and better handling!Don't get me wrong, I love the sound of the 5.4 V8, but the performance is a bit lacking next to the Uber-ugly VE Commodore. It would also secure the future of the Falcon, which isn't that great at the moment(better than the Mitsu 380 though)...

Deano's idea FTW!

scoops · January 9th, 2007, 02:57 PM

Mercury as a name here in canada is pretty much non-existant because they couldn't sell them very well here. I don't know how mercury is doing in the states, but from what i've seen in Canada, that would be the end of ford if they tryed that. I don't know one canadian who owns a mercury.

Any americans able to comment on how Mercury is doing in the U.S.?

Ezbok58a · January 10th, 2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scoops

Mercury as a name here in canada is pretty much non-existant because they couldn't sell them very well here. I don't know how mercury is doing in the states, but from what i've seen in Canada, that would be the end of ford if they tryed that. I don't know one canadian who owns a mercury.

Any americans able to comment on how Mercury is doing in the U.S.?

About the same as they have been. Which is marginally better than they're doing in Canada.

Granted they do sell very well...to the retired.

January 8th, 2007, 03:48 AM	#62
Ezbok58a Joined: Nov 26th, 2006 Last Online: December 31st, 2008 Location: Iselin, NJ Posts: 369 Car: Crown Victoria LX Sport Rep Power: 11	It certainly grabs your attention, unlike the last one. Then again it's the 'Love it or Hate it' styling. Either you like it, or you don't and there's very little middle ground. __________________

January 8th, 2007, 03:31 PM	#66
wooflepoof Square with a title Joined: Jul 18th, 2005 Last Online: 12:08 AM Location: Texas, but I go to school in RI,Canada Age: 21 Posts: 3,822 Car: 1990 BMW 735iL Rep Power: 45	if they could get away with selling us those little red and yellow pedal cars they'd do it. Most of us aren't aware of he quality of cars overseas, nor do we care so companies can get away with less. shiny sells here. Ere it be plastic shiny or otherwise. these ppl buy it. I mean c'mon saturn is makig a big deal about the vectra they're selling here or aura or whatever theyre calling it __________________ Start food threads!

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Viggen Joined: Mar 17th, 2004 Last Online: August 21st, 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington USA Posts: 355 Car: Saab 900 and VW GTI MkV (saving, only $24K to go!) Rep Power: 0	I didn't mind the previous Five Hundred's design. Not the most exciting, but stately and conservative without showing-off. This, however, they set about ruining it. They just tacked-on a new stupid-looking front end on an unchanged body and it doesn't line-up as nice. And the new Focus is disgusting. I mean, why can't they get their collective heads out of their asses and bring-in the Euro Focus already? And no hatchback version? Oh yeah, Americans don't like hatchbacks. Ford is shooting themselves in the foot again, and again, and again. And they wonder why they're losing tons of money. __________________ Jeremy's an antique, the Hamster just squeaks, James is such a geek, and I really want to know who the Stig is... - McFly

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Ianspeed Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: January 3rd, 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 693 Car: 1993 BMW 525i Rep Power: 0	Why does the focus coupe look like the hyundai coupe / tiburon? I'm sorry. I really really want Ford to come back to the front line of car design but __________________ Remanufactured 5 speed installed. I'm back doing the daily grind!

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Deanodriver @ .au Joined: Oct 2nd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 559 Car: 1993 Ford Telstar Rep Power: 14	People are going on about how to bring in the Euro Focus and the like. I have an idea. Sell the Euro Focus/Mondeo and the Aussie Falcon in the US with the Mercury badge! Keep the 500/Fusion/US Focus for the tightarses, have the better vehicles sold as Mercurys, where they're able to demand higher prices. Basically, do what GM are doing with Saturn. (I know about the whole Merkur thing, but these cars are bigger, and they're using an already established name rather than a new one that the typical American couldn't pronounce) Personally, I'm not a big fan of the exterior on that new Focus (especially the big chrome bars on the grille), but the interior doesn't look too bad. The rear of the Focus actually reminds me of a BA-BF Ford Falcon (or even more of the Aussie Fairlane) Last edited by Deanodriver; January 9th, 2007 at 08:14 AM..

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Wizegui Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 12:33 AM Location: Richmond, BC Age: 17 Posts: 1,666 Car: 93 Toyota Tercel LFS Status: Rep Power: 21	UK car prices are usually more expensive.You can't be sure until they get here. I still don't understand why they are using a 10 year old platform...

January 8th, 2007, 08:43 AM	#64
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,189 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 41	I hate those ugly Ford grills. They look worse on the SUV's they do! Ford America should hire some new designers....but they probably can't afford to right now. The 500 is just boring and the design doesn't flow from front to back. It just looks boring. Can someone tell me if the 500 is something the cops will use? It just looks like one of those cars...

January 8th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#65
Spazatao Joined: May 10th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Age: 21 Posts: 697 Car: Taxis Rep Power: 13	The Focus we see here is the first one, so, I guess it's kind of a miracle they managed to get a so different face to it. Ok, an ugly one , but different. The euro Focus is not going to the US because, as was said before, there it is a budget car. Here, rumours tell Ford is going to give the first Focus (still in production) a face-lift to make it look the euro one. The US Ford could at least have done that...

January 9th, 2007, 09:03 AM	#72
'CruiserMan Joined: Dec 8th, 2006 Last Online: December 26th, 2008 Location: Wollongong, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 341 Car: Toyota 80 Series Landcruiser 4.2 diesel LFS Status: Rep Power: 9	And that'd give Ford Australia more development money, so we might be able to get a decent V8 and better handling!Don't get me wrong, I love the sound of the 5.4 V8, but the performance is a bit lacking next to the Uber-ugly VE Commodore. It would also secure the future of the Falcon, which isn't that great at the moment(better than the Mitsu 380 though)... Deano's idea FTW!

January 9th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#73
scoops Joined: May 15th, 2006 Last Online: December 26th, 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	Mercury as a name here in canada is pretty much non-existant because they couldn't sell them very well here. I don't know how mercury is doing in the states, but from what i've seen in Canada, that would be the end of ford if they tryed that. I don't know one canadian who owns a mercury. Any americans able to comment on how Mercury is doing in the U.S.?

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