Unveiled: 2010 Jaguar XJ - Page 2

Evel · July 9th, 2009, 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loop

FTFY

WillDAQ · July 9th, 2009, 10:15 PM

Right, ignore the fact that it's a Jag, just think of it as a new car. The competitors are:

-S-class
-A8
-Quattroporte
-Continental
-7 series

You're not going to buy the S class because it's for old people, the A8 is for cocks, the Bently is for footballers, the 7 is for Germans and the Quattroporte is an acquired taste.

If you wanted a car in that market segment you're going to get the Jag.

klankymen · July 9th, 2009, 10:25 PM

the interior is faptastic, the rest is... meh.

I saw an XF today, and I figured out what is wrong with it. It's too high and skinny. Jags are supposed to be low and wide and menacing.

BlaRo · July 9th, 2009, 10:28 PM

Damn the haters, I like it. Rear end's a bit droopy and Citroen-y for my liking, and that C-pillar is absolutely retarded, but it looks dramatic, graceful, and just slightly aggressive - perfect for a big Jag. And it carries its proportions far better than the Camry-looking XF with its random scattered bits of Pep Boys chrome moldings.

And especially a big Jag that doesn't look like its dreary 1960s BL counterparts, reeking of a stuffy, anachronistic Victorian-era drawing room that old Brit toffs go to reminisce about their days in the Boer War. I mean, what the hell did you guys want, really? If Jaguar had introduced a new XJ that looks like the ones they've been building since the days of the Newcomen steam engine, you would have rioted and demanded something cutting-edge. Well, here it is, and of course it's going to look wonky at first - we're all too used to the previous models, like any new car. But it's about damn time Jaguar joined the 20th century.

Vette Boss · July 9th, 2009, 10:33 PM

I love the front of it, the headlights look gracefully aggressive and it has great presence. The back looks too much like a Quattroporte, which isn't bad, it just shows after thought. I'm not sure about the interior yet, it looks very busy.

BlaRo · July 9th, 2009, 10:37 PM

Oh, and maybe it'll look better next to Elle MacPherson...

And some guy named Jay...

Yep, looks better already.

salguod · July 9th, 2009, 11:02 PM

I'm going to buck the trend and say that it looks fantastic. As a piece of design it is leaps and bounds ahead of its rivals. People seem to get caught up with what Jaguars used to look like, the circular headlights, the traditional lines going up the bonnet. They used to be cars which tended to its current consumers, whilst maintaining a modern twist which attracted newer, younger buyers to the brand.

Every car manufacturer has a model in its lineup which is somewhat pushing the boundaries, a marmite car. Jaguars previous one was the S-type, which I also thought was gorgeous, and despite many people saying it wasn't a very pretty car, the number of S-types I saw on the road always outnumbered the rest of the Jag range, I saw.

This car could not afford to be designed conservatively, the XJ needed to be brought into line with the rest of the range (bar X-type which is due to be replaced soon anyways), no company is successful overly successful if they keep things the same too long, apart from Morgan that is.

The front end is a matured, more sophisticated version of the XF, it has presence. The rear, whilst hard to swallow for most folk, is probably going to be what the differentiating factor is between it, the XF and X-type replacement is going to be, as per what the fronts of the old cars were when the rear ends were very similar.

Design needs to go in cycles, as soon as this one is over for Jaguar, we may go back to the forms we are used to, but then again, they are forging a new path for themselves and I do like where it is going.

nsx_23 · July 9th, 2009, 11:04 PM

This will be like the XF for me. I remember that I thought the XF was hideous when it was first released because of the concept, but once I saw one in person I really liked it.

The hardest bit to get used to is that back end though....

Paul_The_Aussie · July 9th, 2009, 11:21 PM

I like it, I think it looks great, sorry guys.

Dobes · July 9th, 2009, 11:25 PM

It looks great except for that back. I am just not feeling it.

2Billion · July 9th, 2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

Oh, and maybe it'll look better next to Elle MacPherson...

Yep, looks better already.

Quoth the Simpsons "Do you come with the car?"

Honestly, I like it a lot, and can't wait to see it in person. The XF is easily the best looking car in its class, and this is much more interesting than what the germans are throwing in the ring. As for the haters, well, keep your old Jags.

Labcoatguy · July 9th, 2009, 11:49 PM

^See, I like it....from that angle. Greenhouse is too curved, butt's too much like a Pontiac G6 convertible's, but the aggressive front is just C-XF enough to work. I have higher hopes for this than the XF, for sure; we'll see.

captain_70s · July 10th, 2009, 12:01 AM

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Oh, and maybe it'll look better next to Elle MacPherson

I like the front of the car anyway.

As for Elle, not for me, not my thing. Isn't Jay's hair in a world of its own?

As a mate said to me earlier, its great up to the C-Pillar, which I'd agree with, after that it all goes to the dogs.
He did a photoshop where he lowered the boot line and squared it out a bit, looked fab. Just wish they'd actually done it to the car.

prizrak · July 10th, 2009, 12:11 AM

It looks like an R35 and a Bently had a hate child.

Crazyjeeper · July 10th, 2009, 12:12 AM

The front is good. However, from the start of the A Pillar is all goes wrong. It is way way way too fat especially at the back.

Momentum57 · July 10th, 2009, 12:25 AM

Crank the Whitesnake because i was born to walk alone the interior has sold me on this car being the new Jaguar

Momentum57 · July 10th, 2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by captain_70s

I like the front of the car anyway.

As for Elle, not for me, not my thing. Isn't Jay's hair in a world of its own?

As a mate said to me earlier, its great up to the C-Pillar, which I'd agree with, after that it all goes to the dogs.
He did a photoshop where he lowered the boot line and squared it out a bit, looked fab. Just wish they'd actually done it to the car.

I agree with the c-pillar comment but what you did to the trunk is bullshit

figure buying it in black and the c-pillar is not a problem

Ilpav · July 10th, 2009, 12:30 AM

It looks good from the front and side, but that back is just horrible; doesn't go with the rest of the car at all.

The back lights are too close to each other; they should be separated all the way to the sides.

Suedschleife · July 10th, 2009, 12:32 AM

I like the front, although I was expecting to find a Volvo badge initially. Not sure about the rear, it certainly is different, guess I have to see one in the metal to make up my mind.

Overall, if you remove the badge there's nothing that screams Jaguar. About as exiting as 95% of all current sedans.

Momentum57 · July 10th, 2009, 12:36 AM

it starts at $72,500 thats exciting

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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,259 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 372	Damn the haters, I like it. Rear end's a bit droopy and Citroen-y for my liking, and that C-pillar is absolutely retarded, but it looks dramatic, graceful, and just slightly aggressive - perfect for a big Jag. And it carries its proportions far better than the Camry-looking XF with its random scattered bits of Pep Boys chrome moldings. And especially a big Jag that doesn't look like its dreary 1960s BL counterparts, reeking of a stuffy, anachronistic Victorian-era drawing room that old Brit toffs go to reminisce about their days in the Boer War. I mean, what the hell did you guys want, really? If Jaguar had introduced a new XJ that looks like the ones they've been building since the days of the Newcomen steam engine, you would have rioted and demanded something cutting-edge. Well, here it is, and of course it's going to look wonky at first - we're all too used to the previous models, like any new car. But it's about damn time Jaguar joined the 20th century. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's. Last edited by BlaRo; July 10th, 2009 at 5:36 AM.

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Vette Boss Joined: Nov 14th, 2004 Last Online: 6:11 AM Location: United States, Britain, in time Age: 23 Posts: 3,641 Car: 2006 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T Rep Power: 66	I love the front of it, the headlights look gracefully aggressive and it has great presence. The back looks too much like a Quattroporte, which isn't bad, it just shows after thought. I'm not sure about the interior yet, it looks very busy. __________________ 2006 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T. Das Auto

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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,259 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 372	Oh, and maybe it'll look better next to Elle MacPherson... And some guy named Jay... Yep, looks better already. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

July 9th, 2009, 11:02 PM	#27
salguod Joined: Oct 29th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Scotland Age: 19 Posts: 374 Car: Not yet, but would like Leon, C30 or 147 Rep Power: 27	I'm going to buck the trend and say that it looks fantastic. As a piece of design it is leaps and bounds ahead of its rivals. People seem to get caught up with what Jaguars used to look like, the circular headlights, the traditional lines going up the bonnet. They used to be cars which tended to its current consumers, whilst maintaining a modern twist which attracted newer, younger buyers to the brand. Every car manufacturer has a model in its lineup which is somewhat pushing the boundaries, a marmite car. Jaguars previous one was the S-type, which I also thought was gorgeous, and despite many people saying it wasn't a very pretty car, the number of S-types I saw on the road always outnumbered the rest of the Jag range, I saw. This car could not afford to be designed conservatively, the XJ needed to be brought into line with the rest of the range (bar X-type which is due to be replaced soon anyways), no company is successful overly successful if they keep things the same too long, apart from Morgan that is. The front end is a matured, more sophisticated version of the XF, it has presence. The rear, whilst hard to swallow for most folk, is probably going to be what the differentiating factor is between it, the XF and X-type replacement is going to be, as per what the fronts of the old cars were when the rear ends were very similar. Design needs to go in cycles, as soon as this one is over for Jaguar, we may go back to the forms we are used to, but then again, they are forging a new path for themselves and I do like where it is going. __________________ "That's not Bauhaus, That's my trousers..." J Clarksonius iPhone style buttons courtesy of AshDav's photoshop tutorials.

July 9th, 2009, 10:15 PM	#22
WillDAQ Joined: Oct 23rd, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 1,030 Car: Smart Roadster Coupe Rep Power: 43	Right, ignore the fact that it's a Jag, just think of it as a new car. The competitors are: -S-class -A8 -Quattroporte -Continental -7 series You're not going to buy the S class because it's for old people, the A8 is for cocks, the Bently is for footballers, the 7 is for Germans and the Quattroporte is an acquired taste. If you wanted a car in that market segment you're going to get the Jag.

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nsx_23 Joined: May 9th, 2009 Last Online: 6:28 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,353 Car: 03 Toyota Echo 3DR Rep Power: 39	This will be like the XF for me. I remember that I thought the XF was hideous when it was first released because of the concept, but once I saw one in person I really liked it. The hardest bit to get used to is that back end though.... __________________ "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche "If it can't be fixed with a hammer, then its an electrical problem" - FSAE Forums "Be quick, be quiet, and be on time." - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson 03 Toyota Echo (Yaris) 3dr hatch - 5-speed and 1.3L of fury!!!

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Paul_The_Aussie Joined: May 15th, 2005 Last Online: 6:50 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 284 Car: Ford Focus XR5T Rep Power: 19	I like it, I think it looks great, sorry guys.

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Dobes Joined: Sep 19th, 2006 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 8 Car: 95 Range Rover County LWB Rep Power: 0	It looks great except for that back. I am just not feeling it.

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Labcoatguy Joined: Mar 27th, 2005 Last Online: 8:15 AM Location: Boston, MA Age: 26 Posts: 4,428 Car: A Jaaaaaaaag. Rep Power: 236	^See, I like it....from that angle. Greenhouse is too curved, butt's too much like a Pontiac G6 convertible's, but the aggressive front is just C-XF enough to work. I have higher hopes for this than the XF, for sure; we'll see.

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prizrak Joined: Apr 2nd, 2007 Last Online: 5:50 AM Location: Brooklyn, NY Age: 26 Posts: 3,025 Car: Audi A4 1.8T Rep Power: 39	It looks like an R35 and a Bently had a hate child.

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Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 8:03 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 5,135 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 164	The front is good. However, from the start of the A Pillar is all goes wrong. It is way way way too fat especially at the back. __________________

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Momentum57 worships the 2010 Prius like a god Joined: Aug 26th, 2005 Last Online: 6:52 AM Location: Manlius Outside of Syracuse Age: 25 Posts: 1,405 Car: Jaguar X-Type 3.0 Rep Power: 29	Crank the Whitesnake because i was born to walk alone the interior has sold me on this car being the new Jaguar __________________

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Ilpav Joined: Sep 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 7:24 AM Location: GTA, Ontario, Canada Age: 20 Posts: 1,730 Car: '96 Grand Voyager, '01 Grand Caravan, '05 Matrix LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	It looks good from the front and side, but that back is just horrible; doesn't go with the rest of the car at all. The back lights are too close to each other; they should be separated all the way to the sides. __________________ "The Ferrari 355. The best car...in the world...ever."- Jeremy Clarkson Last edited by Ilpav; July 10th, 2009 at 12:31 AM.

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Suedschleife Subtitling God Joined: Sep 6th, 2007 Last Online: 6:12 AM Location: Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium, Germania Age: 33 Posts: 605 Rep Power: 31	I like the front, although I was expecting to find a Volvo badge initially. Not sure about the rear, it certainly is different, guess I have to see one in the metal to make up my mind. Overall, if you remove the badge there's nothing that screams Jaguar. About as exiting as 95% of all current sedans. __________________ Team Schrick DMOTOR sub project

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