Rumour Mill: 2012 BMW 1-Series May Go Retro, Lose Some Weight

Dins · March 17th, 2009, 9:24 PM

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The BMW 1-Series illustrates the gap between what enthusiasts want and what customers will buy. A modern 2002 tii was what we wanted, and BMW may be delivering exactly that in the next generation.

Car magazine is reporting the next version of the 1-series, slated for 2011 production will take a different direction compared to the 1er we have today. The new car will come in a variety of body styles including a coupe, a hatchback and a uniquely styled model dubbed the Supersport. The Supersport is the car which gets us worked up, bearing throwback styling like round headlights, eyebrow style turn signals, and a body-ringing character line. The Ess-Ess would slot between the 135i and the M3 with a rumored two-ish liter twin-turbo, direct injection four cylinder with positively felonious power figures, think 300 BHP and about 330 lb-ft of torque.

The other two models would share less raucous styling and get more normal engines, but there's the possibility of a stripped-out model in the form of a 115i, which would more bare bones than any BMW in years. Is it possible? Is BMW listening to the complaints and desires of its enthusiasts? Sounds impossible, but it may be true.

http://jalopnik.com/5172365/2012-bmw...se-some-weight

Please Please Please Please Please Please!!!!!

Shawn · March 17th, 2009, 9:33 PM

Well, the retro thing has done wonders for the US car industry - can't blame the Germans for wanting a piece of it.

M3lover · March 17th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Sounds nice

Will still be overpriced images/smilies/no.gif

The_Finn · March 17th, 2009, 10:16 PM

2ish liter twin trubo 4cyl? Really? Listen BMW i am ALLLLL about you embracing the wonderful world of Forced Induction for your road cars but for gods sake why go twins and a small displacement 4cyl all it is gonna do is add complexity heat and to a certain extent weight for what benefit? not like twins are gonna spool faster than a GT28R already would on say 2.2L. Shit just doesn't make sense

thedguy · March 17th, 2009, 10:34 PM

It sounds like it's 99% rumor. Considering how BMW went parallel twins on their I6 petrol engines I'm betting the same on the I4. Their diesels on the other hand may go sequential.

I do like the sound of BMW's idea of retro, far better than the American car companies concept for retro (more weight and old looking cars rather than light weight).

jayhawk · March 17th, 2009, 10:35 PM

Nice concept art; it's the 2012 BMW 135i steamroller edition.

devil500 · March 17th, 2009, 11:23 PM

Hope they go back to the e21/e30 looks images/smilies/smile.gif

starfox07 · March 18th, 2009, 12:04 AM

What on God's green earth were they thinking with THAT front end. Love the sides though. See some pre E30 in there.

Seasonone · March 18th, 2009, 12:06 AM

Well all their designers are leaving, maybe they have no choice than piece together old parts and call it retro.

MadCow809 · March 18th, 2009, 12:30 AM

115i ROFL, more like "iwantabmwreallybadly"

devil500 · March 18th, 2009, 12:35 AM

In these hard times a cheap BMW would be cool images/smilies/biggrin.gif

starfox07 · March 18th, 2009, 12:53 AM

I want a 101 images/smilies/wink.gif

argatoga · March 18th, 2009, 1:18 AM

I like the idea. The 1 series is wonderful (if a bit pricy).

LeMans GTR · March 18th, 2009, 6:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Seasonone

Well all their designers are leaving, maybe they have no choice than piece together old parts and call it retro.

That's a good thing.

Polly · March 18th, 2009, 8:27 AM

Oh good, if they do this right I will definately buy it (and that's the first time I said something like this).

M3lover · March 18th, 2009, 10:20 AM

Hmm, judging from the bmw group's recent try at "retro" (the MINI) there could actually be a chance of it being good...

Leonidae · March 18th, 2009, 10:38 AM

I wouldn't mind if this would happen. but replace the heavy twinturbo with supercharger setup.. images/smilies/cool.gif

DarkReaper · March 18th, 2009, 11:09 AM

I doubt their are going to call it the 135 SS. It's not PC.

Anyway, I noticed that the designer wrote Zurbo in mirrored writing on the windshield. Nice throwback but atleast get the letters right.

NooDle · March 18th, 2009, 2:31 PM

BMW, now actually styled to look like a turd! :bmw:

I'm all for smaller engines,etc. I don't need a 300 hp 2l turbo.

motogpboy · March 19th, 2009, 1:43 AM

I know I'd buy a new car that looked exactly like a 2002 tii... images/smilies/yes.gif

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Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: March 15th, 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC Age: 24 Posts: 11,226 Car: '07 Boring Poseur Mobile Rep Power: 154	Well, the retro thing has done wonders for the US car industry - can't blame the Germans for wanting a piece of it.

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M3lover Joined: Nov 23rd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: The milkyway, Earth, Denmark, Copenhagen Age: 23 Posts: 993 Car: Pedalpower for now... Rep Power: 21	Hmm, judging from the bmw group's recent try at "retro" (the MINI) there could actually be a chance of it being good... __________________ Mmmhh, gotta love living in Denmark. We have 180 % tax on cars. Yep, an M3 cost about the same as a 997 Turbo does in Sweden, and sadly i'm not kidding!

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DarkReaper Joined: Dec 24th, 2005 Last Online: 12:13 PM Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,099 Car: BMW635CSI'86.BMW850CI'96 MotoGuzzi California EV Rep Power: 50	I doubt their are going to call it the 135 SS. It's not PC. Anyway, I noticed that the designer wrote Zurbo in mirrored writing on the windshield. Nice throwback but atleast get the letters right.

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