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Wtf is a CUV?
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Crossover-utility-vehicle?
But seriously, a Wrangler sized Hummer sounds interesting.
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Yea that could turn out really well. The H3 just doesn't cut it, it's said to be great offroad but also tries to be a luxury vehicle which it fails miserably at. The Xterra is a much better all-rounder. But a cheap focused truck or SUV is the way route to take for Hummer.
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Hummer buggy? Oh yes, but it needs guns!
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And they couldn't bring the Chinese Park Avenue over in the meantime? Or is that what they plan to do when they move the horrible Lucerne up to Zeta?
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Sounds like Buick has potential to not be a complete pile of crap by 2011. I like the Riviera concept, though I'm sure they'll water it down into a depressing, boring design that no one will care to buy.
Punisher: Sounds to me like the Chinese Park Avenue ain't going to happen at all in the US. The 2011 Lucerne will be a Zeta based car. I'm confused on the Cadillac line-up. The CTS is technically a 5-series competitor based on it's size, so why are they making another 5-series to compete? It's good to hear they are working on a smaller RWD car as well, something GM seriously needs. Too bad they still seem to be concentrating heavily on SUV/CUV things.
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^ At least they're trying to transition to smaller stuff like CUVs rather than continue making more larger SUVs. You can't just drop SUVs altogether. That would be GM shooting themselves in the foot again. I always thought of the CTS as more of a 3-series competitor (I think that was GM's benchmark), although the CTS-V makes 5-series power.
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The current Buick Excelle is a rebadged Daewoolet Lacetti/Suzuki Verona, so they'd better do a good job on the next one. I'm staggered as to why the current American Lacrosse even exists, when the Chinese one is so bone-crushingly superior. It's not all smooth sailing in China though... their Buick minivan is still crude and rough. Still, this is the right course to take.
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To begin with, the Excelle, a small sedan, is set to be released sometime in 2008, based off the Alpha platform currently under development in Germany...
I thought Holden were working on the Alpha platform
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The way the article is written, they make it sound as if GM is still putting a lot of effort in their SUV's.
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Well, all they mention is that they are making a hybrid SUV, old news. The whole V8 thing is also old.
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Holden is owned my GM. Opel is owned by GM. Opel is German. The Alpha platform is under development in Germany by Opel. Opel and Holden share a lot of the same vehicles.
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I'm aware of that, but zeta had nothing to do with opel
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![]() The CTS really is much closer in size to the 5 series than the 3 series, even though it's priced to compete with the 3er.
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I know the Lucerne will move to the Zeta platform, but given how lazy Buick has been for so damn long, I can't see them making a whole new car based on it. I see them just basically rebadging another Zeta car and making a few small changes.
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H4... bah!
I'll take a Jeep anyday of the week. Also, if the H4 has IFS it immediately fails.
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But I will agree, straight axles are the way to go, if you're serious.
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Maybe with the new Zeta platform, they could bring a new Roadmaster wagon! I think that would be awesome.
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I fully expect the H4 to be like the H2 and H3 - all show and no go. The H2 is woefully pathetic offroad and the H3 isn't any better despite their "Tough Truck" look. That mention of "high metal to glass ratio" does not bode well - limited visibility is a major handicap when wheeling.
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