Follow Up: GM OK's Renault/Nissan alliance talks...

No Boss · July 7th, 2006, 6:45 PM

... 3-way suckmobile already in production.

This is just a follow up to the article I posted here

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DETROIT Jul 7, 2006 (AP)— General Motors Corp.'s board of directors has voted to start exploratory discussions with Renault SA and Nissan Motor Co. on a potential alliance between the three automakers, GM announced Friday.

The GM board authorized the company's management to "weigh the potential benefits of such an alliance in order to assist the board in its decision making," George Fisher, a member of the board, said in a statement.

Billionaire GM shareholder Kirk Kerkorian had been pushing for GM to consider an alliance with Renault and Nissaan in an effort to help the world's biggest automaker stage a turnaround and reverse its declining market share.

GM Chairman and Chief Executive Rick Wagoner will lead the talks.

un-dee · July 7th, 2006, 7:23 PM

If Renault/Nissan really do this they are completely insane. Really.

FATMOUSE · July 7th, 2006, 7:27 PM

Well, maybe some good would come of it.

Cobol74 · July 7th, 2006, 9:27 PM

The way you turn around you falling sales is to make cars people want, at the price they can afford with style and quality. Why would you tie up with NISSAN and Renault unless you have forgotten how to do that simple thing. Renault took over Nissan when they had forgotten. Really sad when you think that GM led the world in car design in the 1950s.

Kebab gud · July 7th, 2006, 9:39 PM

it will be fun to se Toyotas responce to this...
theyll probebly buy VW or something images/smilies/tongue.gif

alliance smiance...

jayjaya29 · July 7th, 2006, 9:53 PM

I don't like this images/smilies/no.gif

C53A_4G63T · July 7th, 2006, 10:17 PM

Good news for chevy, maybe they will get some real engines that perform and get good MPG. But it maybe hurt Nissan/Renault.

Peter3hg · July 7th, 2006, 10:23 PM

They'll just produce one car together then go their seperate ways. Kinda like the Ford Galaxy/ Volkswagen Sharan.

No Boss · July 7th, 2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by C53A_4G63T

Good news for chevy, maybe they will get some real engines that perform and get good MPG. But it maybe hurt Nissan/Renault.

I thought this might hurt Chevy/GM than Renault/Nissan. There are so many GM fan boys with Uhmerican pride, one would imagine GM siding with those "Gall'dern surrender monkeys" would hurt the image.

ishigakisensei · July 7th, 2006, 10:56 PM

The French to the recue yet again! Oh the irony if a French company gains control, not only because Chevrolet was French, but also the millions of inbred Bush-bots will be so confused as what to do.

jayhawk · July 7th, 2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Un-Dee

If Renault/Nissan really do this they are completely insane. Really.

Thats what people said to Renault in 1999. You and others need to read up on Carlos Ghosen. He took Nissan from BILLIONS in the red to the most profitable car company on the planet.

If this merger happens, it will benefit all; I just cannot see a downside to this.

No Boss · July 7th, 2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

to the most profitable car company on the planet.

where's the citation for that?

Peter3hg · July 7th, 2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

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Originally Posted by Un-Dee

If Renault/Nissan really do this they are completely insane. Really.

Thats what people said to Renault in 1999. You and others need to read up on Carlos Ghosen. He took Nissan from BILLIONS in the red to the most profitable car company on the planet.

If this merger happens, it will benefit all; I just cannot see a downside to this.

The only downside I can see is the GM monster dragging Renault and Nissan down with them. Can't actually see it happening though, especially as it isn't a merger, they're just doing a few cars together in all likelihood

jayhawk · July 7th, 2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by No Boss

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

to the most profitable car company on the planet.

where's the citation for that?

This was in 2004, so Nissan is now NOT the most profitable, but in a short time span, they went from near bankrupt to that. Third paragraph down images/smilies/smile.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3659109.stm

No Boss · July 8th, 2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

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Originally Posted by No Boss

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

to the most profitable car company on the planet.

where's the citation for that?

This was in 2004, so Nissan is now NOT the most profitable, but in a short time span, they went from near bankrupt to that. Third paragraph down images/smilies/smile.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3659109.stm

Oh ok thanks, I used to work at a Nissan dealer and sitting in/working on some of those cars kinda made me question your statement.

fbc · July 8th, 2006, 1:14 AM

GM - Everything to gain
Renault / Nissan - Everything to lose

We'll see how this plays out...

C53A_4G63T · July 8th, 2006, 1:39 AM

I don't see how GM can lose on this, they have nothing to bring t the table while Nissan and Renault have alot to bring, so the weight is going to be over them.

Z Draci · July 8th, 2006, 1:44 AM

Whatever the case we should all buy GM and Renault/Nissan shares NOW!

SL65 · July 8th, 2006, 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Z Draci

Whatever the case we should all buy GM and Renault/Nissan shares NOW!

Really

! How do we know they'll go up images/smilies/unsure.gif

bartboy9891 · July 8th, 2006, 3:14 AM

Im curious how the influences will go. I'm gonna go hide under a rock for 5 years and come out to see if anything interesting happened.

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fbc Moderator Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 11th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 11,776 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 128	GM - Everything to gain Renault / Nissan - Everything to lose We'll see how this plays out... __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

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C53A_4G63T Joined: Jun 30th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Farmington, Connecticut Age: 23 Posts: 584 Car: 99' Infiniti Q45t, 89 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo Rep Power: 20	I don't see how GM can lose on this, they have nothing to bring t the table while Nissan and Renault have alot to bring, so the weight is going to be over them. __________________ 1989 Mitsu Mirage Turbo Hatch, 4G63T swap and more goodies to make it a low 12 sec car. Better to own a Volvo, than be owned by one. I work for Buick....... and it's not nearly as fun as it sounds.

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