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| Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 09:24 PM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 4,812
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| The C-Max?? Why not the S-Max/Galaxy? They need something to replace the Windstar anyways...
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| Joined: Sep 4th, 2006 Last Online: 12:06 AM Location: Canton / Torrington, CT United States Age: 28 Posts: 1,446
Car: Different every week Rep Power: 19 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | The flex is replacing the windstall. |
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| ^ will bore you to death | Wow...thanks Ford, when it comes time to give the rest of the world the Gen 3 Focus we just MAY get the Gen 2? I guess it's better than a 3rd restyling of the Focus ![]()
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| @ .au | I actually am surprised that Canada hasn't imported the Mk2 Focus and sold it alongside the Mk1 (I think they still sell the Mk4 Golf/Jetta along with the Mk5), you'd think they're a bit more open to small cars than the Americans. Surely it can't be that hard to adapt the Mk2 Focus for the US market, though? |
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| Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 09:28 PM Location: Dallas, Texas USA Age: 32 Posts: 3,609
Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC Rep Power: 57 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Nope. It's all BS from Ford USA anyway. They have a serious case of NIH Syndrome After many years of customer requests, Ford USA decided to bring the (then current, now two generations back) Mondeo to the USA. The problem is that they decided to a) "Americanize" the car, and b) have it made here in some of the worst plants they had in North America. The resulting product was a sick joke that didn't sell very well. They'd "softened" everything about the car's handling and tried to make it handle like the US Taurus (ugh). It also wasn't put together very well and fell apart regularly, because of lazy union workers and costcutting by US beancounters. The only good version was the SVT Contour, which was essentially the Euro sport version and was basically hand built. Ford then took the example of the Contour/Mystique failure and used it as an excuse to not bring over any other non-US Ford models, claiming "they won't sell." They've also used the X-Type as another example of failure; it's not selling at all here. There are still 2006 MY X-Types sitting on showroom floors. The problem is not that non-US designs won't sell (the Ford Fusion is a great example, so was the Mk1 Focus), but that Ford US can't water down foreign-design product - or, for that matter, market it as something that it's not, and still expect it to sell.
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| Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 07:01 PM Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 410
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| Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 09:24 PM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 4,812
Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 40 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Quote:
__________________ ![]() "Let's not forget that we are fighting for peace and for the welfare of mankind.” -Potsdam Conference - Harry S. Truman "This month's public bread is provided by the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers. The Brotherhood uses only the finest flour: true Roman bread for true Romans." -Rome - Newsreader | |
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| Joined: Apr 12th, 2005 Last Online: 09:20 PM Location: San Francisco area, CA, USA Age: 29 Posts: 2,411
Car: 2001 Mercury Cougar V6 Rep Power: 69 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | C-Max? The C-Max?!?! I'm sorry, but I don't think it would be a good idea to bring a car that looks THAT borring. It looks no different than our current Focus Wagon. C-Max ![]() Focus "Estate" ![]() The S-Max, I can deal with because it's got some style, but the pictures I've seen of the current Fiesta (save for the uber-sporty versions, since 99% of them won't be those versions) look very very borring. The Mazda 2 (which we won't get in the US) at least looks interesting, and is based on what would be the American Fiesta (Part II) platform. Mazda 2 ![]() Ford Fiesta If ford is going to bring over vehicles from Europe, it should start with the GOOD looking ones that could sell themselves...not designs they will have to sell us on. I will give Ford credit on the Fusion, though. I'm not saying I like the car, but they are marketing it quite well, and I'm seeing more and more on the road. Of the 3 cars based on the Mazda 6 platform (not counting the 6), I actually really like the Lincoln MKZ, and it suprisingly enough drove pretty well. ![]() |
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| @ .au | Quote:
I have no idea why Ford US does that, but God it's ugly. It might work on an F series (provided you prepare yourself by being blinded on a sunny day), but on pedestrian sedans like the Taurus, no way. Personally, I think the Five Hundred looked better than the '08 Taurus. I wonder how much the US-market Japanese cars differ from the same Japanese cars sold in the rest of the world? Would the Japanese makers make one car for North America and one for the rest of the world as well? | |
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| Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 04:31 PM Location: Southampton Posts: 6,218
Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 58 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Japanese makers do Americanize but the key thing is that they keep the core values of the original. May put in a bigger engine and change the gearing for easier long range cruising but they do not compromise on the quality. |
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