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Old February 28th, 2007, 02:00 AM   #1
 
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During a recent press drive for the Euro-market Civic Type R (which resulted in this month’s WR cover story), our European Editor, Matt Davis, caught some heavy hints that a variant of the hot hatch is indeed headed Stateside in 2010.

Though the assistant chief engineer from Tochigi was loath to talk specifics, the plan is to offer a package in keeping with the Japanese-market Type R (read: four-door sedan), and include a horsepower boost and a limited-slip differential.

The prototype car shown above, modeled on Honda’s JDM/ASEAN market Civic sedan, incorporates a 2.0-liter iVTEC engine giving nearly 220 horsepower, along with the usual suspension and appearance modifications. Given the close proximity of the standard Japanese Civic sedan to its North American counterpart, it would likely be easier to federalize such a model than attempt to import the Euro-market Type R’s angular hatchback, whose bodystyle wasn’t developed with either the U.S. or Canada in mind.

This strikes us as a wise move, because as wonderful as the current Civic Si is here in the States, it’s outgunned by high-horsepower entries like the Mazdaspeed3 and Subaru WRX, both of which will be likely targets for this more expensive CTR.

http://news.windingroad.com/concept-...010/#more-6324
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So the main differnces between the type R and the Si are like 23 hp and a LSD?
Theres no way that will touch the MS3.

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I want the European Hatchback version
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Yeeesh, that must be a tease to the Type R fans. The Hondaphiles I know revere the Integra Type R, the only R the States has ever had, as a legend and treat it like a 300SL gullwing.
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fantastic news just about a year and a half after i hope to be making enough money to not be interested
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Reviews say that it's not as fun to drive as the last Civic Type R but is more comfortable. Aren't the Type R's supposed to be the most driver oriented of the bunch? Anyway, it'll definitely sell well in the US.
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That pic shows the Honda Civic Type R Sedan from either Japan or Europe (most probably Japan), but here in North America it's an Acura CSX. And if they were to make a Type-R version of the North American Civic, it would be called the Si-R (like the hatchback from 2002 which was the same as the Type-R from Europe and Japan.) If this particular car came to North America, it would probably be called the Acura CSX-R (cool name?)

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That pic shows the Honda Civic Type R Sedan from either Japan or Europe, but here in North America it's an Acura CSX. And if they were to make a Type-R version of the North American Civic, it would be called the Si-R (like the hatchback from 2002.)
The CSX is only available in Canada. Plus Acura is no longer producing the RSX 'cause it was competing with the higher end Civics.
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I'm not sure about 200 hp up front. I had my car (base Civic) out today and took an on ramp a little too quick (I was dodging an asshole who ran a red light) and it got a little squirrely through the corner - the predictable understeer but the whole car was drifting sideways because it was a bit damp out.

I know other companies are putting that much power up front and the Civic is a great chassis, I'm just not sure I would want one. I wish they did an AWD model.
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Aren't the Type R's supposed to be the most driver oriented of the bunch?

you can get (for 2000€ less than the normal one) a stripped out one, no navigation, no audio, no sound proofing

so yeah, it's still the most driver oriented car
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I HATE THAT CIVIC.

The hatchback is 5 million times better. The sedan is just boring.. This one just looks awkward
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Australia is supposedly getting the Civic hatch (and the Type R), probably at the end of this year. We have to wait because demand is so high in Europe.

The Integra Type R was an awesome car, but only the 99-2000 model, after that we got a watered down Type R which was basically a rebadged Type S, not the proper Japanese one.
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Well at least this will get all the ricers off the Integra's nuts. I don't like the looks of it at all, the only thing I like about it is the engine. I agree that Honda should definitely pursue some kind of AWD platform, if not a small RWD sedan. My Celica only has 140hp, and I have to go easy on the throttle in the corners. I can't imagine how much this thing pulls.
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I don't know why some of you are so scared to drive high HP FWD cars. Sure it's not as good as RWD, but I've driven a few ass-draggers that were in the 300-400hp range and they were a BLAST to drive.

Type-R in a 4 door? that's lame.
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Found a Best Motoring video of the Type-R sedan.

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If I read correctly, it's no more powerful than the SI, it's just lighter...correct?
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We used to have the hatch Si - there was a loyal little market for them. There are a few ricers who would probably pefer the hatch and its sci-fi styling.
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I'm sure it will sell here because of the following the Civic has in the US... but if I were spending my dollar and performance were the deciding factor, I wouldn't select the Civic.

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