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From the New York Times: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2007...rssnyt&emc=rss
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Neener, neener, I banned your title!
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Bad car? Well, yeah.
But the worst car? I dunno bout that... shouldn't that award go to something like a G-whiz or something Chinese? On second though, I guess not if they're trying to appeal to just us yanks.
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Yeah, I think the "award" is just for "Worst Car Sold In America".
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I wouldn't say the X-Type is the absolute worst car this decade. My vote would be the entire range of GM off-roaders, they're all rubbish despite the fact how many idiots buy them.
Jaguar sticks with their styling heritage, at the very least.
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No, I have to agree with the author. The X-Type is the worst car, because 1) Ford was pretending it was something it wasn't, 2) Jaguar charged entirely too much money for what it did have, and 3) It was never competitive in its class.
The GM stuff is excused because they're stupid cheap. Something that is stupid cheap can be excused a lot of faults.
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No wonder I see so many around here! Arrgh, it's like an infestation...where's my shotgun?! P.S. that avatar really makes you look like a classy, badass motherfucker. 8)
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Isn't the X type the same thing as a Mondeo? So does that make the Mondeo the worst car of the decade by proxy?
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No, the Mondeo is an honest car. The X-Type was bad because it pretended to be a proper Jaguar, when it wasn't.
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I have to say the X-type was a failure for those who wanted it to be a big Jag.
That said, it's an AWD version of the Mondeo ST220 -- a brilliant car. Sure, the non "Sport" models were softer, but still, haven't we always said the Mondeo was brilliant? "Proper" Jaguar -- what the heck does that mean? That it didn't look like a Jag? It did. That it wasn't done up nicely on the inside? It was. That it wasn't somehow an $80,000 car that sold for $30,000? Well, you got us there, I suppose. It was a bit over the top in price, at least at sticker, but purchased at a good price, it was a good car. Compared to many American cars (can we say... Buick) it was near the top of the class. I suspect the real reason the reviewer didn't like it is that it only has a single cupholder. To me, the S type, despite having the retro styling, was a loser car. Too small to be a proper executive car, and too big and floaty (with the exception of the R) to be fun. Steve Last edited by Steve Levin; October 17th, 2007 at 6:10 AM. |
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The X-type isn't bad to drive. Therefore even though it's not really a Jag, it can't be the worst car of the decade.
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The X-Type might not be the luxury car it claims to be, but come on, you can't seriously say it's worse than the Pontiac Aztek.
The X-Type was poor because it didn't live up to a Jaguar badge, but the Aztek would've struggled to live up to a Daewoo badge. After all, Daewoo ads in Australia featured a blind man driving while being instructed by a guide dog. Now, I think that relates fairly well to an Aztek, because you'd have to be blind to buy one. |
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It might have been overpriced, but what about the second hand market.
These cars do depreciate quite a lot. So if u buy one now u can have a smooth/comfy/stylish car. That isn't to bad to drive. And that all for a resonable price. And it might be half a Mondeo underneath, but it does everything what a jag is supposed to do IMO. Looks like a good deal to me! Or am i missing something here :p |
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Feels like it was just created to fill a sector in the market. They could have atleast tried to twist the styling around, rather than just shrinking an XJ. The styling only works on bigger cars, on the X-Type, it just looks stupid and awkward.
@Deanodriver hahaha, I remember that! What the hell was the point of that ad anyway?
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I think it was because of that dog they had as the Daewoo mascot. Then again, the cars were also dogs. Either way, you'd have to be blind to buy a Nubira (then again, I got my licence in one).
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Such horrid cars, they were. I have to drive one just for the experience one day. I'll should pick one up and destroy it Jeremy Clarkson style!
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As someone who likes Jags, I'm somehow disappointed by the X-type. It looks a little wrong. But still, it can't be the worst but at least not that bad! Aztec! G-wiz! Proton Wira? Damn I'll be hating the guy and the publication and the publication's editor and everyone working there!
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i can think of worse cars sold this decade in the US. The X-type sucks but there are much much worse. any article that writes off entire manufactures (Hummer, Mitsu) is suspect to me
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H3=Reskinned Colorado with a 25k markup And since the H1 isn't made for civilian purchase anymore I have to agree with the article on that. Mitsubishi? Lancer=crap Eclipse=crap Outlander=crap whateverthehelltheirtruckscalled=crap The article isn't lying on that parts. I still think the Aztek is worse than the X-type... |
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