Looks like the Camaro is go.

jayhawk · August 10th, 2006, 11:49 PM

Projected release date: 2009.

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=2&docid=27934

Personally, I think it will never be released. 10 bucks says GM is doing this to draw attention to the company. 10 bucks also says that this Camaro will be Chevrolets Banshee; endlessly shown as a prototype, but never released.

And I think the front end is hideous. I know some have a blind love for Camaros and the supposed upcoming vehicle, but really...look at it! It's homely!

BlaRo · August 10th, 2006, 11:57 PM

The front isn't great, but the sides look brilliant. Perfect combination of retro and futurism.

Alas, GM says that the production version will...oh wait, what's that Rick Wagoner? "closely resemble the concept car". In other words, they'll images/smilies/censored.gif

it up spectacularly, then slap a Pontiac Firebird badge on it and go off to sell Suzukis passed off as Buicks to the Chinese.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i19/1970_32lo.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/media/seo/500/2006.buick.lacrosse.jpg

http://www.cars.com/features/mvp/pontiac/aztek/images/main_aztek.jpg

I'm going to steal Bob Lutz's fighter jet then strafe the RenCen with heat-seeking missiles.

bartboy9891 · August 11th, 2006, 12:36 AM

the Camaro will have to look like the concept if they plan on selling any. its been getting so many good responses from the general public that it'd be death if it looked any different.

jayjaya29 · August 11th, 2006, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

the Camaro will have to look like the concept if they plan on selling any. its been getting so many good responses from the general public that it'd be death if it looked any different.

How many concepts look like the original concepts when they are put on the road? I'd tell you not many, although the Dodge Challenger is an exception, and a good one at that. I really think that they are going to screw this one up.

Mischief007 · August 11th, 2006, 1:08 AM

I love Camaros, always have, BUT I really dislike this new one. I'll wait for the GTO or the next gen CTS-V Coupe.

wooflepoof · August 11th, 2006, 1:13 AM

Camaros nowadays are for the ones (teens) who cant afford a Corvette, or they like the name but cant shell out however mny thousands it is for an old one. Nice that theyre turning it back to a muscle(ish) car but im starting to get sick of this 'retro' styling. Taking certain style cues is fine but heyre just milking the whole old style thing for the money. Reminds me of this surge of movies based on classic comic book heroes. Tho that said, spiderman 1 was awesome images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

YF19pilot · August 11th, 2006, 2:47 AM

Here's one person who's happy! Warning w00t flood:

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If any of you hit me up, I'll buy you a beer! That is if I wasn't saving up for this car!

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me in 2009 with my new Camaro---> images/smilies/burnrubber.gif

jetsetter · August 11th, 2006, 2:53 AM

I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy.

Blind_Io · August 11th, 2006, 3:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy.

Yeah, because that worked for the Mustang. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

There's much more to a car than the engine and drive wheels.
I this Camaro is going to be the dog's breakfast, just watch.

TomCat · August 11th, 2006, 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy.

Yeah, because that worked for the Mustang. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

There's much more to a car than the engine and drive wheels.
I this Camaro is going to be the dog's breakfast, just watch.

The Camaro will probably be a much more premium class car compared to the Mustang. GM plans on having independent suspension on all four corners and it looks like the base V6 will be around 300HP, with the Z28 getting around 400HP, and the SS possibly getting the LS7 505HP. And GM has been increasing the quality of their interiors quite a bit lately, so the new Camaro will probably be the best Camaro ever.

jetsetter · August 11th, 2006, 3:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy.

Yeah, because that worked for the Mustang. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

There's much more to a car than the engine and drive wheels.
I this Camaro is going to be the dog's breakfast, just watch.

The Mustang has sold fairly well and it didn't die. I'm betting that the Camaro will do well.

Blind_Io · August 11th, 2006, 4:02 AM

The Mustang is selling well for it's looks, not it's perfomance or interior.

wooflepoof · August 11th, 2006, 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

The Mustang is selling well for it's looks, not it's perfomance or interior.

Yup it just has to look good, have the word hemi or v8 or something like that, and the interior has to kind of look ok, regardless of what its made of ie: plastic woodtrim

Name sells here, like in the meat industry, beef(thats sold to consumers) gets a select, choice, or prime grade. select being the grade just above the meat thats sold to canning companies like chef boyardee fer canned ravioli or soup, hideous quality meat. But since no1 knows the difference they can say new SELECT meat and people think its good. Technically theres no such thing as a "prime rib" on a cow. what it means is ribs made from prime meat. but if you look on the menue they ADVERTISE thats it made from choice meat. But the name sells.

jetsetter · August 11th, 2006, 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

The Mustang is selling well for it's looks, not it's perfomance or interior.

Actually a great many do sell for the performance. As for the interior, if you think it is poor then you have been spoiled.

Blind_Io · August 11th, 2006, 6:25 AM

Yeah, spoiled by a 1976 Volvo, a 98 Camry, a 2001 Jeep Cherokee and an 04 Civic. I've run the range on interior quality and the Mustang is crap. In order of quality of build I rate my cars as follows:

Civic
Camry
76 Volvo
01 Jeep.

That's right, I think the Jeep from 2001 had a crappier interior than a Volvo from 1976. Sorry, but you can't blame cultural differences this time, I'm and American living in the same part of the country as you. As a general rule American cars are the suck at ergonomics and fit & finish inside. I drove GM vehicles for NBC and my local Police dept, I know what I'm talking about.

Deanodriver · August 11th, 2006, 6:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy.

I think they will, I'm guessing the Camaro will be based on the new Zeta platform (well, that's what the local media said, could be wrong, though).

We'll see though. I'd like to see a right hand drive version, as well. images/smilies/smile.gif

KaJuN · August 11th, 2006, 8:52 AM

Has there been any word on Z28, SS, or RS versions? Please say it's going to be available with t-tops. How about the Firebird/Trans Am? It seems inevitable these will return as well. Any idea what they will look like?

BlaRo · August 11th, 2006, 11:53 AM

Oh dear God, not this Mustang debate (the ugly stepsister of the Corvette debate) again. Thanks a lot guys, I think I hate American sports cars now. images/smilies/dry.gif

niteriyder · August 11th, 2006, 12:13 PM

define performance? straight line the car is where it should be, as far as handling thats debatable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

Yeah, spoiled by a 1976 Volvo, a 98 Camry, a 2001 Jeep Cherokee and an 04 Civic. I've run the range on interior quality and the Mustang is crap. In order of quality of build I rate my cars as follows:

Civic
Camry
76 Volvo
01 Jeep.

That's right, I think the Jeep from 2001 had a crappier interior than a Volvo from 1976. Sorry, but you can't blame cultural differences this time, I'm and American living in the same part of the country as you. As a general rule American cars are the suck at ergonomics and fit & finish inside. I drove GM vehicles for NBC and my local Police dept, I know what I'm talking about.

Blind_Io · August 11th, 2006, 6:44 PM

There is no reason that they can't build a car that goes around corners. It's front engine and rear wheel drive, which is fine because we are sticking with the Camaro name. If they mount the engine right, put on a propper differential and tune the suspension correctly they can make a car that will take the corners - the problem is that drivers tend to use too much of that power and kick the tail out too far. It would be a more raw car, but it should still be designed to do it. I think the problem is that they will just be looking at quarter mile times and neglect the rest. We will see.

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jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 2:28 AM Location: Aurora, IL. Age: 34 Posts: 6,471 Car: 07 Subaru WRX, 09 VW Tiguan. Rep Power: 234	Looks like the Camaro is go. Projected release date: 2009. http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=2&docid=27934 Personally, I think it will never be released. 10 bucks says GM is doing this to draw attention to the company. 10 bucks also says that this Camaro will be Chevrolets Banshee; endlessly shown as a prototype, but never released. And I think the front end is hideous. I know some have a blind love for Camaros and the supposed upcoming vehicle, but really...look at it! It's homely! __________________ Instead of attending the circus, I visit Autoblog to see the clowns comment instead.

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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 6:52 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,256 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 371	The front isn't great, but the sides look brilliant. Perfect combination of retro and futurism. Alas, GM says that the production version will...oh wait, what's that Rick Wagoner? *"closely resemble the concept car". In other words, they'll it up spectacularly*, then slap a Pontiac Firebird badge on it and go off to sell Suzukis passed off as Buicks to the Chinese. I'm going to steal Bob Lutz's fighter jet then strafe the RenCen with heat-seeking missiles. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

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bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: University of Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 8,810 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 79	the Camaro will have to look like the concept if they plan on selling any. its been getting so many good responses from the general public that it'd be death if it looked any different. __________________

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Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	I love Camaros, always have, BUT I really dislike this new one. I'll wait for the GTO or the next gen CTS-V Coupe. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph

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YF19pilot Joined: Apr 15th, 2005 Last Online: 4:08 AM Location: Fargo, ND Age: 25 Posts: 2,113 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 GL LFS Status: Rep Power: 30	Here's one person who's happy! Warning w00t flood: If any of you hit me up, I'll buy you a beer! That is if I wasn't saving up for this car! me in 2009 with my new Camaro---> __________________ I can finally say that, yes, I have driven a car with a front mounted V10.

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jetsetter Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 6:40 AM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 5,742 Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 76	I'm happy as hell. As long as the V8 and rear wheel drive make it I will be happy. __________________ "I saw myself founding a new religion, marching into Asia riding an elephant, a turban on my head and in my hands the new Koran I would have written to suit my needs." - Napoléon Bonaparte

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Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,993 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	Yeah, spoiled by a 1976 Volvo, a 98 Camry, a 2001 Jeep Cherokee and an 04 Civic. I've run the range on interior quality and the Mustang is crap. In order of quality of build I rate my cars as follows: Civic Camry 76 Volvo 01 Jeep. That's right, I think the Jeep from 2001 had a crappier interior than a Volvo from 1976. Sorry, but you can't blame cultural differences this time, I'm and American living in the same part of the country as you. As a general rule American cars are the suck at ergonomics and fit & finish inside. I drove GM vehicles for NBC and my local Police dept, I know what I'm talking about. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 6:52 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,256 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 371	Oh dear God, not this Mustang debate (the ugly stepsister of the Corvette debate) again. Thanks a lot guys, I think I hate American sports cars now. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

August 11th, 2006, 6:44 PM	#20
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,993 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	There is no reason that they can't build a car that goes around corners. It's front engine and rear wheel drive, which is fine because we are sticking with the Camaro name. If they mount the engine right, put on a propper differential and tune the suspension correctly they can make a car that will take the corners - the problem is that drivers tend to use too much of that power and kick the tail out too far. It would be a more raw car, but it should still be designed to do it. I think the problem is that they will just be looking at quarter mile times and neglect the rest. We will see. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

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