MY 2007 VW GTI to face some changes?

static · September 21st, 2006, 08:53 AM

My VW dealer told me that Golf GTI will be getting 240 HP 2.0TFSI engine.
That would be pretty soon as some car models are already available as 2007-models. Subaru for example.

Does anyone have any info about this, sounds pretty wild I reckon. It would seriously step on R32 toes...
Although R36 is due to come later on but still it sounds weird.

Dins · September 21st, 2006, 11:57 AM

It would make sense, as they are out-powered by almost every other "hot hatch". Plus the same engine is going to produce 265bhp in the S3, so it is not in the realms of the unthinkable for VW to power their car up a little as well.

sandor_ · September 21st, 2006, 01:36 PM

can you get AWD in the GTI? i would suspect that would be the difference.

No Boss · September 21st, 2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sandor_

can you get AWD in the GTI? i would suspect that would be the difference.

As of now you can't (it's not a factory option, if that's what you mean). But it is definitly possible since it's shares its chasis with many AWD cars.

Momentum57 · September 21st, 2006, 10:23 PM

I dont think you can get the 4Motion on the GTI i might be wrong but i have never seen one and i think the R32 will be upped to an 3.6 in the future so R36 will be even farther from the GTI

Dins · September 21st, 2006, 11:18 PM

I'd be quite sure the GTi remains FWD, if it gets power.

No Boss · September 22nd, 2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dins

I'd be quite sure the GTi remains FWD, if it gets power.

Yeah it's definitly going to be FWD.

S5-GT · September 22nd, 2006, 03:12 AM

Hmmm, Im not so sure. Actually prepped an 07 Candy White 3 Door today and still has the 200HP 2.0T. So unless the new power output is applied to 07.5 models, 07 models are the same.

static · September 22nd, 2006, 06:57 AM

It would make more sense if the change takes place when the next golf appers to the market.

oliB · September 22nd, 2006, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static

My VW dealer told me that Golf GTI will be getting 240 HP 2.0TFSI engine.
That would be pretty soon as some car models are already available as 2007-models. Subaru for example.

Does anyone have any info about this, sounds pretty wild I reckon. It would seriously step on R32 toes...
Although R36 is due to come later on but still it sounds weird.

There is a limited edition model with 230 hp coming up. It's the 30th anniversary (the first GTI was introduced 30 years ago) special edition:
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...cle_1760.shtml
There are rumours all GTI models will get the 230hp upgrade later. But at this point they are just that, rumours.

BTW, there also was a 25 years special edition mk IV GTI and a 20 year special edition mk III GTI.

sandor_ · September 22nd, 2006, 01:57 PM

...i would rather see the 5 door version of the GTI in the states....then i would buy one.

my point wrt to the AWD was that VW seems to be using that as at least one of the defining lines btwn the GTI and R32.

AmericanMuscle · September 23rd, 2006, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static

My VW dealer told me that Golf GTI will be getting 240 HP 2.0TFSI engine.
That would be pretty soon as some car models are already available as 2007-models. Subaru for example.

Does anyone have any info about this, sounds pretty wild I reckon. It would seriously step on R32 toes...
Although R36 is due to come later on but still it sounds weird.

The seat leon Cupra has the 240hp unit already so it was only natural for the GTI to get it also. The Leon cupra R will see around 260hp and the S3 will then get a powerboost of around 280hp.

Vitamin J · September 24th, 2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sandor_

...i would rather see the 5 door version of the GTI in the states....then i would buy one.

my point wrt to the AWD was that VW seems to be using that as at least one of the defining lines btwn the GTI and R32.

Apparently you can get them:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/vitaminjyo/gti2.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/vitaminjyo/gti.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/vitaminjyo/gti4.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e282/vitaminjyo/gti3.jpg

And VW 4-motion is terrible, the only true AWD VW/Audis are longitudinally mounted engines, they have the Quattro system, if they have transversely mounted engines, they have some 3rd party AWD system which is crap and the cars handle like ass.

AmericanMuscle · September 24th, 2006, 10:11 AM

Haldex is used by alot of different manufacturers, including the veyron and its not crap as such, it depends how its used.

VW's never have had a Quattro based system, most of the time they all use haldex. As for the golf pictured above I dont think that is a real GTI. In fact im 99% sure that that is not a GTI.

Dsemaj · September 24th, 2006, 11:14 AM

Could be imported or a special order?

AmericanMuscle · September 24th, 2006, 12:15 PM

Maybe, it just looks too tame for some reason to be a GTI.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1672/volkswagengolfgti200401sby9.jpg

Leonidae · September 24th, 2006, 10:36 PM

I'm pretty certain that that was originally TDi 4motion with engine swap from GTi images/smilies/bangin.gif

Vitamin J · September 25th, 2006, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle

As for the golf pictured above I dont think that is a real GTI. In fact im 99% sure that that is not a GTI.

The guy just bought it from a dealer:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2082265

here's an article on it:
http://www.autoblog.com/2005/09/13/vw-gti-four-door/

S5-GT · September 25th, 2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle

Haldex is used by alot of different manufacturers, including the veyron and its not crap as such, it depends how its used.

VW's never have had a Quattro based system, most of the time they all use haldex. As for the golf pictured above I dont think that is a real GTI. In fact im 99% sure that that is not a GTI.

I'm thinking that GTI was shown regarding the

Quote:

...i would rather see the 5 door version of the GTI in the states....then i would buy one.

from sandor_ and was showing that the 5 door models are in the US. The only 5 door we've seen at Heuberger is one for Specialty Transport(they handle the press cars in our region)

sandor_ · September 25th, 2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitamin J

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandor_

...i would rather see the 5 door version of the GTI in the states....then i would buy one.

my point wrt to the AWD was that VW seems to be using that as at least one of the defining lines btwn the GTI and R32.

Apparently you can get them:

And VW 4-motion is terrible, the only true AWD VW/Audis are longitudinally mounted engines, they have the Quattro system, if they have transversely mounted engines, they have some 3rd party AWD system which is crap and the cars handle like ass.

good to see, but Bill Cooke's website doesn't even list a 5 door GTI images/smilies/wacko.gif

hmmmmm.... looks good though

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static Joined: Jan 12th, 2005 Last Online: 10:23 AM Location: Southern Finland Age: 22 Posts: 684 Rep Power: 16	MY 2007 VW GTI to face some changes? My VW dealer told me that Golf GTI will be getting 240 HP 2.0TFSI engine. That would be pretty soon as some car models are already available as 2007-models. Subaru for example. Does anyone have any info about this, sounds pretty wild I reckon. It would seriously step on R32 toes... Although R36 is due to come later on but still it sounds weird.

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Dins Joined: Jul 27th, 2005 Last Online: 02:17 PM Location: Duesseldorf, Germany Age: 23 Posts: 742 Car: 325i Rep Power: 21	It would make sense, as they are out-powered by almost every other "hot hatch". Plus the same engine is going to produce 265bhp in the S3, so it is not in the realms of the unthinkable for VW to power their car up a little as well. __________________ "[...] Front wheel drive is the work of satan." - James May "Yes." - Mika Hakkinen

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Momentum57 Joined: Aug 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Manlius Outside of Syracuse Age: 24 Posts: 1,111 Car: Jaguar X-Type 3.0 Rep Power: 18	I dont think you can get the 4Motion on the GTI i might be wrong but i have never seen one and i think the R32 will be upped to an 3.6 in the future so R36 will be even farther from the GTI __________________

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sandor_ Joined: Mar 16th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2007 Location: Philadelphia, USA Age: 28 Posts: 1,043 Car: 911, 328i, Golf, '71 Vespa Sprint Rep Power: 0	can you get AWD in the GTI? i would suspect that would be the difference.

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S5-GT Joined: Dec 18th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2008 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm, Im not so sure. Actually prepped an 07 Candy White 3 Door today and still has the 200HP 2.0T. So unless the new power output is applied to 07.5 models, 07 models are the same.

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static Joined: Jan 12th, 2005 Last Online: 10:23 AM Location: Southern Finland Age: 22 Posts: 684 Rep Power: 16	It would make more sense if the change takes place when the next golf appers to the market.

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sandor_ Joined: Mar 16th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2007 Location: Philadelphia, USA Age: 28 Posts: 1,043 Car: 911, 328i, Golf, '71 Vespa Sprint Rep Power: 0	...i would rather see the 5 door version of the GTI in the states....then i would buy one. my point wrt to the AWD was that VW seems to be using that as at least one of the defining lines btwn the GTI and R32.

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AmericanMuscle Joined: Sep 23rd, 2006 Last Online: September 27th, 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Haldex is used by alot of different manufacturers, including the veyron and its not crap as such, it depends how its used. VW's never have had a Quattro based system, most of the time they all use haldex. As for the golf pictured above I dont think that is a real GTI. In fact im 99% sure that that is not a GTI.

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AmericanMuscle Joined: Sep 23rd, 2006 Last Online: September 27th, 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Maybe, it just looks too tame for some reason to be a GTI.

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Leonidae Joined: Jun 2nd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Posts: 433 Rep Power: 0	I'm pretty certain that that was originally TDi 4motion with engine swap from GTi __________________ Veyron Fact:Veyron consumes more fuel than any other production car, using 40.4 L/100 km (4.82 mpg) in city driving and 24.1 L/100 km (10 mpg) in combined cycle. At full-throttle, it uses more than 125 L/100 km (2.1 mpg)—at full throttle, the Veyron would empty its 100 L fuel tank in just 12.5 minutes.

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