New Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-400

[edkwon]

Originally Posted by prizrak

To the dude who neg repped me - have balls to sign it

What does rep points do anyway, if you hit 0 do you get banned? I could give a toss if ppl neg rep me down to negative numbers.

[MH07]

How long are the service intervals for this new one haha

[prizrak]

Originally Posted by edkwon

What does rep points do anyway, if you hit 0 do you get banned? I could give a toss if ppl neg rep me down to negative numbers.

They don't really do anything, its more like a visual guide to see if the person talks out of their ass often or not. I don't get too hung up on my rep but I hate it when people neg rep anonymously purely because they don't agree with my opinion.

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by awdrifter

Remember though, this is UK prices. Their Focus would've cost like US$30k. If Mistubishi USA were to make the similar spec car (assuming they can get it pass smog or not sell it in Cali), it would probably only cost $50-60k. Still, as a DSM owner, I would never buy a high powered Mitsubishi car, the reliability is just not there.

Taking an American car over a Japanese car for its reliability is a bit like taking out Quosimoto on a date instead of Keira Knightly.

Originally Posted by MH07

How long are the service intervals for this new one haha

Service intervals are created by manufacturers, usually in increments as to not create damage to the car. Toyota, as an example, get around short intervals in their deisel model cars (maybe petrol ones too) by adding a larger sump to the car so they can put more oil in it. More oil means the oil will last a little bit longer, so they can stretch the service intervals out. Completely useless on our end as damage is going to be done anyway, but from their point of view fantastic, because now they can claim longer service intervals which is cheaper for the consumer. Anyone who gives half a shit about their car will change oil every 5,000kms regardless of what the log book says.

In saying all that, I know for a fact the EVO X service intervals have been made longer (I believe 7,500kms instead of 5,000kms for basic oil changes) Things like gearbox and transfer case need to be done every 20,000kms, diffs every 30,000kms and AYC/ACD every 40,000kms. Compare this to say a GTR and it's nothing. When you get to 80,000kms in your new GTR, the engine has to be removed and rebuilt, and the plasma cylinder bores need to be resprayed at an astronomical price.

I guess what I'm saying is, the servicing will be no worse than any other high performance car, and don't listen to what Jeremy Clarkson says. If anyone's read any of his books you'll know he always exagerates and talks straight from his ass a lot. You have to sift through the bullcrap with Clarkson to find the nuggets of truth.

[awdrifter]

Originally Posted by Disciple

Taking an American car over a Japanese car for its reliability is a bit like taking out Quosimoto on a date instead of Keira Knightly.

DSMs are designed by Mitsubishi and built by Mitsubishi and Chrysler joint venture plants. So I count them as Mitsubishi cars.

[prizrak]

the masked avenger - reveal your identity! I must rep you for that that was hilarious

[Currahee474]

I love me a X. They're decently fast cars just stock too.


If they sold one in America and covered under warranty, I'd snatch up an FQ model. But, North America Mitsu will deny warranty claims for having the wrong filter in your car.

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by awdrifter

DSMs are designed by Mitsubishi and built by Mitsubishi and Chrysler joint venture plants. So I count them as Mitsubishi cars.

I think the Dodge Neons got a turbo'd version of the 4B12 didn't they? The Mitsubishi collaboration with Chrysler finished a long time ago tho.

[awdrifter]

Still, if you look at the EVO 7 to 9, their quality is not very good. And that's only at 280hp. At 400hp, the reliability will be horrible.

[Disciple]

The reliability for AUDM and JDM EVOs is impecible. Mine's over a year on since I've had it now, 15,000kms and no problems. The previous owner had it a little longer than me and no problems either, and mine's modified. I've had this discussion on here before with someone else. You guys must get shit quality gear in the states. I know of plenty of EVOs on the forums I frequent who are pushing 400hp and more and don't have any reliability problems either.

[prizrak]

Originally Posted by Disciple

The reliability for AUDM and JDM EVOs is impecible. Mine's over a year on since I've had it now, 15,000kms and no problems. The previous owner had it a little longer than me and no problems either, and mine's modified. I've had this discussion on here before with someone else. You guys must get shit quality gear in the states. I know of plenty of EVOs on the forums I frequent who are pushing 400hp and more and don't have any reliability problems either.

Yeah US spec cars tend to be teh suck. However I am not sure how much of reliability issues is really true. Alot comes down to perception if a company had a bad streak people will remember it for decades even if the cars have long been great. With things like Evo's and STi's there is also the problem of bad modding and retarded driving. Almost everyone who buys these cars will mod them in some way and they don't necessarily go to a reputable shop or do it right (like add shit load of power and not upgrade the clutch). Or people will drive the balls out of them and only change oil every 5,000miles even though with hard driving it should be every 3 or so. There is of course doing doughnuts and hard launches all day (seen alot of Evo drivers doing those every weekend in my local big ass parking lot)

[WillDAQ]

M3/C63/RS4 people appear to be missing the point.

The EVO is designed for this road:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=5...26886&t=h&z=16

And while you may just be able to keep up with it in summer, you will be slaughtered in winter.

[prizrak]

Originally Posted by WillDAQ

M3/C63/RS4 people appear to be missing the point.

The EVO is designed for this road:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=5...26886&t=h&z=16

And while you may just be able to keep up with it in summer, you will be slaughtered in winter.

I suspect an M3 would be alot more enjoyable there in the summer. I'm a fan of AWD, it is the best way to put down large amounts of power and will be the fastest possible drivetrain all other things being equal.

For pure driving enjoyment I would take RWD any time. And as far as that goes an Exige S costs about the same as that FQ400 and would be infinetly more interesting.

[jayjaya29]

I hope we get another epic scene from Clarkson like the last one..

+ YouTube Video

[Wiggin]

If Mitsubishi UK had the chance to do up this car, why didn't they do up the displacement at all? It seems like a relatively good solution for more power and less lag, and making more use of a bigger turbo. Though I couldn't say what that would add to the price...

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by Wiggin

If Mitsubishi UK had the chance to do up this car, why didn't they do up the displacement at all? It seems like a relatively good solution for more power and less lag, and making more use of a bigger turbo. Though I couldn't say what that would add to the price...

It would add a lot to the price. For a larger displacement, the engine would need to be rebuilt with a longer crankshaft, then custom made pistons, rods, studs etc to suit.

[torqueless]

so many evo's are bought second hand in the US. then people dont mod them correctly, slap a huge turbo on it without the resulting mod's needed and blow the clutch, diff, transmission...

then blame it on shit mitsubishi quality...

and then i read on evom.net about people who have properly taken care of the car, hit 100K miles in their evo's no problem.

[ahpadt]

Originally Posted by jayjaya29

I hope we get another epic scene from Clarkson like the last one..

Very unlikely since almost everything on TG these days has to be funny...

[AiR]

I'm gonna fart in this thread now: I've spent my day parking Lancers at work and I have yet again changed my mind about which looks best, the sedan vs hatch. The hatch has better side profile but ugly ass rear lights and the sedan looks alright in the front and end but side profile is Lincoln Town Car. The Evo's in the lot were naturally great to drive, but I still felt let down for the (potential) future owner because of the interior which, quite frankly, isnt up to par. But 200 hp per liter, holy shit batmans.

[chaos386]

Originally Posted by jayjaya29

I hope we get another epic scene from Clarkson like the last one..

Ah, but you left out what happened after the race with the Lambo!

+ YouTube Video

If I were playing a videogame, I'd pick the FQ 400, but in real life, I'd much rather have an RS4.