New Mitsubishi Evo X FQ-400

[prizrak]

Originally Posted by chaos386

Ah, but you left out what happened after the race with the Lambo!



If I were playing a videogame, I'd pick the FQ 400, but in real life, I'd much rather have an RS4.

Well to be fair the new one has MUCH less lag. What I want to know is what kind of turbo they have, is it a ball bearing, journal bearing, foil bearing, variable vane? Because I have a hard time believing that a journal bearing non vv turbo would be able to spool all that quickly.

[Disciple]

From what I know, the EVO X uses a twin scroll ball bearing turbo. Can't see why it would be any different with the FQ400 model.

BTW, that race against a deisel car in 6th gear at 1mph is retarded. Who's going to be rolling around town at 1mph in 6th gear? Do the same race rolling from about 30mph in second gear and race it against an RS4, M3, C63 and it'll chew them up for breakfast!

[chaos386]

Originally Posted by Disciple

Do the same race rolling from about 30mph in second gear and race it against an RS4, M3, C63 and it'll chew them up for breakfast!

Nah.

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by chaos386

Nah.

Good call.

[fbc]

Originally Posted by Disciple

BTW, that race against a deisel car in 6th gear at 1mph is retarded. Who's going to be rolling around town at 1mph in 6th gear? Do the same race rolling from about 30mph in second gear and race it against an RS4, M3, C63 and it'll chew them up for breakfast!

It was an exaggerated test, but it made a very good point about the ridiculous amount of turbo lag that car had (and while this new model may have less, until proven otherwise I'm saying it's still a very laggy thing). IMHO power is useless if it's not delivered in a progressive & responsive manner, and without having to drop down four gears.

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by fbc

It was an exaggerated test, but it made a very good point about the ridiculous amount of turbo lag that car had (and while this new model may have less, until proven otherwise I'm saying it's still a very laggy thing). IMHO power is useless if it's not delivered in a progressive & responsive manner, and without having to drop down four gears.

Driving a car like that is all about being in the right gear and hence why it has a close ratio gearbox. You wouldn't buy a Miata then cruise around town at 20mph in 6th gear would you. I just think people blow the turbo lag thing out of proportion and take everything Clarkson says as gospel without having driven or experienced it themselves. Anyway, my 2c. You're entitled to your opinions.

[prizrak]

Originally Posted by Disciple

From what I know, the EVO X uses a twin scroll ball bearing turbo. Can't see why it would be any different with the FQ400 model.

BTW, that race against a deisel car in 6th gear at 1mph is retarded. Who's going to be rolling around town at 1mph in 6th gear? Do the same race rolling from about 30mph in second gear and race it against an RS4, M3, C63 and it'll chew them up for breakfast!

This was 30mph 6th gear actually. It would have a VERY tough time against RS4, M3 and C63 if not driven progressively through the gears the way its supposed to. Those large displacement V8s will just have massive amounts of torque on the down low that no 4banger no matter how blown it is would be able to match.

[torqueless]

Originally Posted by Disciple

I just think people blow the turbo lag thing out of proportion and take everything Clarkson says as gospel without having driven or experienced it themselves. Anyway, my 2c. You're entitled to your opinions.

+1

go forth and preach of vortex generators and AYC

[torqueless]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/26/o...coming-to-the/

well well well...it's coming in blue.

too bad it's not coming to the states

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by torqueless

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/26/o...coming-to-the/

well well well...it's coming in blue.

too bad it's not coming to the states

Ohh, no lag. What did I say?

525Nm @ 3,500rpm - get some of that into ya!

This car will be an absolute rocket!

[nsx_23]

I wonder how much fuel this thing is going to suck down.

The stock Evos already have a pathetic range on 1 tank.....

[prizrak]

18" rims? WTF is up with Evo and tiny ass wheels? Just about anything else in the class runs at least 19's.... Pretty decent specs but full torque is a bit late, gonna be downshifting on highways for overtaking I bet...

[AiR]

Good thing it comes with a gearbox then

[Redliner]

Originally Posted by prizrak

18" rims? WTF is up with Evo and tiny ass wheels? Just about anything else in the class runs at least 19's.... Pretty decent specs but full torque is a bit late, gonna be downshifting on highways for overtaking I bet...

Personally, I think it´s good. Manufacturers are going too far with wheel sizes. The Holden with 22" wheels is a good example. Even the "regular" 20" are a bit to big for my tastes.

[Karoug]

^Not to mention that TGA "proved" that too big rims are retarded for performance vehicles.

[Redliner]

Originally Posted by Karoug

^Not to mention that TGA "proved" that too big rims are retarded for performance vehicles.

That is exactly why I gave that example.

[Disciple]

Rim size is all about unsprung mass. The 18" rims on that EVO wouldn't weigh much more than 7kgs each. Increasing the size increases the weight, which upsets handling. The reason cars like the GTR have enormous 20" rims, 1. Wank factor. 2. So they can run those massive 380mm disc brakes.

Gotta love the EVO bashing! Jealousy is such a curse...

[SpitfireMK461]

It's an amazing looking car. Maybe one day I'll have a chance to drive one. I need to get behind the wheel of my friend's Impreza.

[prizrak]

Cars are not only about performance, big wheels look good no getting away from that. I've found that EVO's tend to look a little weird because the body seems too large for wheels. The X doesn't have quite as much of a problem with that though but the 8 and 9 had it.

Good thing it comes with a gearbox then

Well here is my thing. I drive a car that has decent enough power for the most part but if I'm 60mph on a highway in 5th and I put my foot down it takes a while until the RPMs climb into useful range. If you are doing spirited driving its not a problem but when you just want a quick burst of speed to overtake someone or get into an opening it's pretty annoying. Judging by when it gets full torque this car might have the same issue.

[Disciple]

Originally Posted by prizrak

Cars are not only about performance, big wheels look good no getting away from that. I've found that EVO's tend to look a little weird because the body seems too large for wheels. The X doesn't have quite as much of a problem with that though but the 8 and 9 had it.


Well here is my thing. I drive a car that has decent enough power for the most part but if I'm 60mph on a highway in 5th and I put my foot down it takes a while until the RPMs climb into useful range. If you are doing spirited driving its not a problem but when you just want a quick burst of speed to overtake someone or get into an opening it's pretty annoying. Judging by when it gets full torque this car might have the same issue.

Full torque is at 3,500rpm, meaning it's making boost around 2,000rpm. Got forbid you have to drop a gear to overtake someone.

If you want a lazy car, get an automatic. Or, get the EVO X FQ360 SST version.