Superchargers are for pussies! [Viper ACR does 7:22 @ 'Ring]

Viper007Bond · August 28th, 2008, 7:20 AM

Haha, eat it ZR1!

http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/auto_news/2008/10528022+w455/112_0808_02l+dodge_viper_ACR+front_three_quarters_view.jpg

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

Video: http://www.motortrend.com/av/feature...deo/index.html

Woulda been faster too if the guy could actually learn to shift. images/smilies/lol.gif

Thanks to TomCat:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomCat

On a related note, the Viper ACR circled the NRing in 7:22! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...ord/index.html

And it was independently timed with MotorTrend invited along.

wingnutsc · August 28th, 2008, 7:24 AM

Awesome!

Seasonone · August 28th, 2008, 7:44 AM

I have never really liked the car just because it was a huge engine with no regards to anything else, but damn I will have to tip my hat to this thing. 7:22, that's amazing. Toyota and Nissan need to hurry up and release the LF-A/Vspec so 5 of the 6 fastest cars around the ring will be from Japan/USA with a sketchy zonda team being the lone euro car.

I wonder if Clarkson will mention it or if he will continue to ignorantly say "everything is done better by europeans" images/smilies/rofl.gif

p0w3r · August 28th, 2008, 7:51 AM

why the hell is he always bouncing off the rev limiter...its really starting to piss me off as im watching the video

godlikepagan · August 28th, 2008, 7:56 AM

I wonder how low they could have gotten it if they had done more laps and if he had gotten used to the car. The fastest time was only the third lap images/smilies/eek.gif

.

TomCat · August 28th, 2008, 7:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0w3r

why the hell is he always bouncing off the rev limiter...its really starting to piss me off as im watching the video

Its probably because its a bad point of the track to shift. I'm watching the video as I type this. You really don't want to get off the throttle in a corner or transition to shift in a car like this, it could throw it off balance. Better to keep the power flowing, I doubt he could go any faster by trying to shift, and I doubt the overbuilt V10 minds.

NooDle · August 28th, 2008, 8:40 AM

dayem

no leafspring comments yet???

Peter3hg · August 28th, 2008, 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooDle

dayem

no leafspring comments yet???

The Viper always had fully independent suspension as far as I know.

otispunkmeyer · August 28th, 2008, 9:35 AM

shoulda got walter rohl on that shit....

also i like how theres so much torque, the gear stick is litterally dancing around in the gate thingy lol

fbc · August 28th, 2008, 9:50 AM

Daaaamn - what an absolute brute of a car. I want one. Badly.

/me waits for the thread to degenerate into the usual 'ring-ZR1-GT-R slinging fest...

Necx0 · August 28th, 2008, 9:54 AM

The change on the Viper is so slow that it would be quicker to leave it on the rev limiter rather than try and change gear. That lap and indeed their whole car is completely ruined by the idiotic gearbox.

I watched up to past the Karussell and never saw him get past 4th. Just near Schwedenkreuz (apologise for german spelling) fast cars are hitting 270+ and he is still in bloody 4th! Just stick a higher diff ratio in it (~300clicks in 6th) and 1. it will be a WHOLE lot faster and 2. It will make a hell of a lot more sense.

ZR1 isn't a stripped out race car either, 4 seconds isn't that much faster. Although I can see 15 seconds or so coming off that time with decent gear ratios.

Viper007Bond · August 28th, 2008, 9:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necx0

ZR1 isn't a stripped out race car either, 4 seconds isn't that much faster.

Does 40 lbs really make that huge of a difference? That's the weight saved by the optional strip-shit-out package.

D-Fence · August 28th, 2008, 10:43 AM

That is quite an incredible time.

Especially if you regard the driver:

a) he hit the rev limiter way too often (results from the lorry gearbox images/smilies/biggrin.gif

)
b) he seriously stepped of the gas in the brünnchen part for not losing rear traction, he mainly understeered (which is an impressive thing to do in a viper images/smilies/biggrin.gif

)
c) he missed a shift (results from the lorry gearbox images/smilies/biggrin.gif

)
d) he shifts as quickly as my grandma (results from the lorry gearbox images/smilies/biggrin.gif

)

I think if they put a real racedriver in there that has nordschleife Viper knowledge like a Zakspeed guy, they can easily shave that down to sub-20s. On the other hand, that thing isn't road legal in Germany iirc so it probably won't count as "road car" record. images/smilies/smile.gif

Still, impressive, if you take into consideration: The Zakspeed Viper GTS-R did a 8:40.695 during the 24h race. That is ~half the GP Track included, but still, damn fast images/smilies/biggrin.gif

If I had the choice I would always pick a viper over a corvette or gtr, it is just so incredible over the top images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Necx0 · August 28th, 2008, 11:00 AM

Why bother stripping it out then?!?!?!?!?!

Roll cage etc. means its hardly a daily driveable proposition, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Viper007Bond · August 28th, 2008, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Fence

On the other hand, that thing isn't road legal in Germany iirc so it probably won't count as "road car" record. images/smilies/smile.gif

Why isn't it road legal? The tires?

Buba · August 28th, 2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godlikepagan

I wonder how low they could have gotten it if they had done more laps and if he had gotten used to the car. The fastest time was only the third lap images/smilies/eek.gif

.

I doubt it. The tires could be gone by then, maybe they didn't pack enough fuel for more. Who knows...
Anyway: The Sport Auto peeps who do the kinda official times round the Ring said, that with road cars and tires, usually the first hot lap will produce the best time.

smib · August 28th, 2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Why isn't it road legal? The tires?

Too awesome.

avanti · August 28th, 2008, 11:27 AM

fucking awesome!!

D-Fence · August 28th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Why isn't it road legal? The tires?

tires, wings, sidepipes emissions........ THIS IS GERMANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY we have rules you have to obey ja!

Sadly.

Viper007Bond · August 28th, 2008, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Fence

tires, wings, sidepipes emissions........ THIS IS GERMANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY we have rules you have to obey ja!

Sadly.

Isn't the stock Viper sold there though? This is the same engine.

And you can't have wings? WTF?

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godlikepagan Joined: Mar 12th, 2007 Last Online: 8:12 AM Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 107 Car: 1996 Honda Accord Rep Power: 16	I wonder how low they could have gotten it if they had done more laps and if he had gotten used to the car. The fastest time was only the third lap .

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D-Fence Ibiza-Proll Joined: Apr 2nd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: #gear in IRC Posts: 3,379 Car: Spanish Polo with LPG engine. Rep Power: 191	That is quite an incredible time. Especially if you regard the driver: a) he hit the rev limiter way too often (results from the lorry gearbox ) b) he seriously stepped of the gas in the brünnchen part for not losing rear traction, he mainly understeered (which is an impressive thing to do in a viper ) c) he missed a shift (results from the lorry gearbox ) d) he shifts as quickly as my grandma (results from the lorry gearbox ) I think if they put a real racedriver in there that has nordschleife Viper knowledge like a Zakspeed guy, they can easily shave that down to sub-20s. On the other hand, that thing isn't road legal in Germany iirc so it probably won't count as "road car" record. Still, impressive, if you take into consideration: The Zakspeed Viper GTS-R did a 8:40.695 during the 24h race. That is ~half the GP Track included, but still, damn fast If I had the choice I would always pick a viper over a corvette or gtr, it is just so incredible over the top __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the doors of heaven in a perfectly intact body, but rather to crash through the pearly gates sideways in a car with bald tires, an empty tank and your brakes on fire shouting HOLY SHIT WHAT A RIDE! RINGMEET 2009 - THE REPORT: LINK Last edited by D-Fence; August 28th, 2008 at 10:47 AM.

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Seasonone Joined: Jun 30th, 2008 Last Online: March 22nd, 2009 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Age: 25 Posts: 958 Car: RB25 "silvia" Rep Power: 29	I have never really liked the car just because it was a huge engine with no regards to anything else, but damn I will have to tip my hat to this thing. 7:22, that's amazing. Toyota and Nissan need to hurry up and release the LF-A/Vspec so 5 of the 6 fastest cars around the ring will be from Japan/USA with a sketchy zonda team being the lone euro car. I wonder if Clarkson will mention it or if he will continue to ignorantly say "everything is done better by europeans"

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Necx0 Joined: Jun 21st, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Hobart, Tasmania Age: 23 Posts: 2,103 Car: R31 Skyline, Charade rally car Rep Power: 29	The change on the Viper is so slow that it would be quicker to leave it on the rev limiter rather than try and change gear. That lap and indeed their whole car is completely ruined by the idiotic gearbox. I watched up to past the Karussell and never saw him get past 4th. Just near Schwedenkreuz (apologise for german spelling) fast cars are hitting 270+ and he is still in bloody 4th! Just stick a higher diff ratio in it (~300clicks in 6th) and 1. it will be a WHOLE lot faster and 2. It will make a hell of a lot more sense. ZR1 isn't a stripped out race car either, 4 seconds isn't that much faster. Although I can see 15 seconds or so coming off that time with decent gear ratios.

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Necx0 Joined: Jun 21st, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Hobart, Tasmania Age: 23 Posts: 2,103 Car: R31 Skyline, Charade rally car Rep Power: 29	Why bother stripping it out then?!?!?!?!?! Roll cage etc. means its hardly a daily driveable proposition, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

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