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Old April 4th, 2007, 08:11 PM   #1
 
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Is fucking rubish!!!

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Suspension and steering modifications
The S2000 CR has the same 2.2-liter 237-hp engine as other S2000s, but don’t let that fool you into thinking it’s just a dress-up job. The most dramatic changes involve springs and shocks that Honda calls “significantly stiffer.” Although no figures are available, our experience with Uehara’s other creations like the Acura Integra type R tells us that he knows the meaning of “significant.” Thicker anti-roll bars round out the suspension changes. A quicker steering ratio will allow drivers to avoid shuffling hands in tight corners. A limited slip differential and defeatable electronic stability control carry over from the regular S2000.

Tires
The S2000 CR’s biggest handling gain over the regular S2000 may come from gumball Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires similar to those used on the former Japan-market NSX-R. The 215/45R-17 front and 255/40R-17 rear tires have a treadwear rating of 140, which means they are barely able to be called conventional street tires.

Front and rear spoilers
A ludicrously large body kit and a rear cowl fairing behind the seats are claimed to smooth airflow over the S2000 CR. But the most over-the-top aerodynamic modification is the massive rear spoiler. The wing has three distinct horizontal surfaces: the upturned outside sections produce downforce while a flatter center section smoothes airflow over the car. The whole affair is affixed with black supports that look more like a back yard racer’s weekend concoction than factory pieces, but who are we to argue if it works? Honda claims overall downforce on the rear axle at speed, a rare trait for a street car.

Weight savings and chassis
Air conditioning and the sound system are jettisoned in the name of weight savings, but you can add them back in as options. The S2000 CR also loses its power folding softtop to shed a few pounds, and in its place it gains a beefy rear strut tower brace with four mounting points. This is said to enhance the already stellar rigidity of the S2000’s shell so it won’t flex when cornering. A removable aluminum hardtop provides shelter from the elements and admission to tracks where open-top cars aren’t allowed. With the top off, the S2000 CR will weigh approximately 2765 pounds, almost 90 pounds less than the regular S2000.

It is significantly faster on a track, according to Honda
The result of these changes is a claimed two-second reduction in the S2000 CR’s lap time around Honda’s Tochigi test track. That’s a huge difference; you could add 50 horsepower to a regular S2000 and you might not see your lap time drop that much.

Interior modifications
Every special edition needs to look unique, so the S2000 CR has a bunch of dress up features that distinguish it. The most obvious is the Apex Blue paint, which is a pearlescent bright blue evocative of Audi’s Sprint Blue. Black badges and gunmetal gray five-spoke wheels round out the exterior mods. Abundant yellow stitching on the doors, steering wheel, seats, and shifter (which has shorter throws than the already insanely short ones in the regular S2000) complements yellow woven seat inserts. Faux-suede seat bolsters and door panels replace the leather items on the regular S2000 in the name of grip, and they’ll also broaden the S2000 CR’s appeal to PETA members. Faux carbon fiber trim is a slavishly trendy addition, but we can forgive anything in a car this raw.

Pricing
The S2000 CR goes on sale in the fall of 2007 as a 2008 model. The car shown at the New York show isn’t 100 percent production correct, but the body kit, spoiler, and wheels are accurate renditions of what you’ll see in dealers. Pricing isn’t confirmed, but it will certainly be more than the regular S2000’s $35k base price and probably less than $40k. Given the expected production volume of less than 2000 units (no limit was confirmed), Honda will lose money on the deal, a fact that company representatives actually admit. Such corporate honesty is rare, but Honda can afford it. The S2000 CR is a fitting tribute to the man who put “Honda” and “performance” together in the popular lexicon. Let’s hope it’s a harbinger of more great things to come and not a last hurrah.


Lets say someone has a 2000 S... Trades it in for this, trade in value 15 atleast... That would be around 25k to pay off... With 25+k to pay you can keep your original S and mod the hell out of it with 25k...It would be certain you'd max out all of the things you want to do to your S by 25k... This is a huge let down by Honda and hopefully they will put to rest the S so my value can go up lol... I do like the seats thou images/smilies/lol.gif
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I was gonna say somthing pertinent and mature... but then I completely lost it after that post.

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Adunaphel is right... that rear wing is just way too much. I like the regular front better.
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to be honest, i was expecting more from honda images/smilies/sad.gif or maybe it's that colour :\
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The spoiler is a bit much...
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Which are apparently rendered useless by the giant trapezoids on the front bumper and that massive aircraft carrier over the trunk. Well, at least they look like they're thoroughly useless tack that wiggers stopped throwing on their Eclipses 7 years ago.

Or it's just the color that I can't stand. Either way, I'm not a fan.
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I can't wait to see this thing on the racetrack in SSB or T3, it's going to be awesome.
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Perhaps I'm so let down because I was expecting something more along the lines of this:

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Those Amuse aero upgrades are both track proven and aesthetically pleasing... which is more than be said for the CR, the suspension upgrade consists of more than stiffer springs and sticky tires, the roll bar increases rigidity, the brakes are bigger, and the less-restrictive exhaust increases power and sheds weight. :sigh:

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other than the front wings... i think it's the hottness....

the front wings are a bit much for me but if they actually produce effective downforce (which they are supposed to) i can look past them
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uh....lol...if...it was lower maybe it'll be like capable of being looked at
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that's not much of a "club racing" version. it's factory rice. did honda even bother trying to cut weight? i mean, that's a bare minimum to any "club racing' version. honda should've consulted porsche.
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I've never really liked the S2000. It's just too... small I guess. It being so small, I always think it's girly or underpowered. images/smilies/wacko.gif
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