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This info was released a couple of days ago.
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In the past games like GTA3, Manhunt, Manhunt 2, N.A.R.C. (also for drug use) and Soldier of Fortune: Payback, have been refused classification unless they are censored by the makers to take out the "offensive" parts of it. In order to change this law and introduce an 18+ rating system it requires all the state and federal Attorneys General to agree to introduce one. At the moment all are on board except for one, South Australian Attorney General Michael Atkinson. I'm sad to say that I am from SA and know Michael Atkinson and can say that he is one of those religious people who think that they are saving us by banning us from being able to play these games and will thus never change his mind, regardless of how much sense it makes or what public opinion is. ![]()
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Quite comical that a video game can be banned.
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^It's only banned because there is no R18+ segment in the gaming market... Ridiculous.
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But the fact that a video game is able to be banned seems crazy to me. Or is it not banned but stores just won't carry it since it doesn't have a rating?
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Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 |
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A stupid decision because gamers will buy the game from overseas sellers or ebay & the nanny state can't do anything about it.
Australia has a long and quite sad history of censorship. |
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I know I was actually going to buy the collector's edition, and I haven't bought a game in a LONG time, as I am a long time Fallout fan but now I will just acquire it elsewhere....if you know what I mean. |
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Here's the thing, it's basically some religious nutjob in South Australia holding up the R18 classification
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![]() All the other Attorneys General, both state and federal, see the need for an R18+ rating to bring it into line with movies, TV, books etc. but sadly it requires unanimous support and he is the only one of them holding out at every meeting, which occur every couple of years or so, it is raised at, and it has been raised at the last 3. Thankfully there may be some light at the end of the tunnel with the government agreeing to hold "consultation" with the community to see if they think one should be introduced, but sadly this will most likely mean they will haul in a bunch of 50-80 year old and ask them what they thing about it, provide them with a horribly one sided view and they will all say that they are outrageous. In the words of Kent Brokman. Quote:
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I really am tired of the outdated old assumption that the only people who play video games are children. Added to that, I can't stand when those stupid boards think they know better than us. I mean, if people can't make independent, mature decisions, how on earth do these sort of people function in society in the first place? We're all not a bunch of mindless naive drones.
That said, those in power certainly seem to be.. @Janus funny you say that, because I have a friend who's mother works with the guy. Adelaide is way too small.. *shivers*
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Can someone answer my question for me -- can they actually censor video games in .au? Or is it just getting no rating meaning stores won't sell it?
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if they censor an AU version is usually just either remove the offending cutscene or rename the offending thing to something else similar.
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In the case of GTA they took out the hooker as the complaint came from the fact that you could pick them up, have sex with them and then kill them and take the money back. This was seen as "sexual violence" and was refused classification. So they just removed the hookers. They had a problem with Soldier of Fortune: Payback because you could blow peoples limbs off and they were still alive and you had to finish them off. They saw this as "extreme" violence and made them remove the limbs coming off. Although I find this one funny because they didn't like the fact that the developers made a slightly realistic depiction of combat. Manhunt and Manhunt 2 they refused it classification because of the extreme violence in the execution scenes. There are however some important things to remember here. It isn't that Australia is a backwards and overly censored country. We are nowhere near as bad as countries like Germany, where nothing is allowed to mention the Nazi's and they go as far as forcing companies to replace humans with robots or monsters etc in games. Video games is the only thing that has this problem in Australia and that is because of our "old" laws from before video games were seen as a valid artistic and story telling form. It isn't that the Office of Film and Literature Classification (OFLC) think that these games are so bad that they shouldn't be played by anyone because they will do harm to adults it is just that we lack any rating over the MA15+ one, which means that anything steps even slightly over the guidelines of the MA15+ rating must automatically be refused classification because there is simply no higher rating it can receive. |
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Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 |
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Doesn't Fallout have a system where you can get addicted to the chems when you use them too much and you constantly lose health and abilities when you don't take them regularly.
I think showing the kids the bad side of drugs aswell equals out the necessity of combat stims. I would get very pissed off if my character became crack addicted for the rest of the game, pretty much ruining it. |
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