Gran Turismo HD - The biggest next gen rip off yet!

Janus · September 21st, 2006, 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shacknews

Gran Turismo HD: We Brake for Microtransactions

Various sites, tracking back to a forum post on Beyond3D, are reporting on news from Japanese publication Famitsu that Polyphony Digital's upcoming Gran Turismo HD will ship as a bare bones game and filled out with vehicles and tracks purchased online. Gran Turismo HD, a PS3 conversion of Gran Turismo 4 (PS2), was first unveiled at E3 2006 and is intended as a stopgap between GT4 and the upcoming Gran Turismo 5 (PS3), expected in 2008. According to these reports, GT HD will be released soon in two varieties, Gran Turismo HD: Classic and Gran Turismo HD: Premium. The Classic edition appears to be essentially an online enabled version of the E3 demo, but does not include any vehicles or tracks. These components must be purchased individually online for between 50 and 100 yen ($.43-$.85) per vehicle and between 200 and 500 yen ($1.71-$4.26) per track, with a total of up to 750 cars and 50 tracks available. Not all vehicles and tracks will be available for purchase at launch. Some may be released on a periodic basis and some may even be limited quantity offers. The Premium edition does not appear to feature online play, but rather includes a "cusual arcade mode." This version comes equipped with 30 cars, some new, and two courses, both new. Up to 30 additional cars and two additional courses would be made available for purchase online.

Update: It appears that both the Classic and Premium editions of the game are included on the same disc. While the Classic game is largely GT4 upscaled to 1080p, the Premium portion takes greater advantage of the PS3 hardware. It is intended as "prologue" for the upcoming Gran Turismo 5. Essentially, the Premium game with its included two tracks and thirty cars is the primary game, while the Classic game is the online mode that must be filled out with content purchased online from the beginning.

No pricing for either base game was given. It is unclear whether either game is set for release outisde of Japan. However, in an Official PlayStation Magazine interview with SCEA's Phil Harrison, the exec specifically singled out Gran Turismo as an example of a game for which users could buy and download new content online. "Imagine Gran Turismo shipping on a disc with one car and one track. And then you can browse, online, a dynamic circuit of vehicles that's growing every day because either the car manufacturers are adding new vehicles or we're adding new vehicles," he explained. "And you can see a specific-type car that's being called up and say, 'I think I'll play with that one. Let me download and play it.' Maybe the business model allows you to play it for a day; maybe the business model allows you to own it forever."

Man, they just keep expecting us to pay more and more for less and less. And then they want us to pay money for things that should be in the game.

This looks like a new low. images/smilies/sad.gif

BlitzR · September 21st, 2006, 2:31 PM

I hope they don't do that for GT5, but this GT HD is just prologue. Who the heck buys Prologue anyway.

the Interceptor · September 21st, 2006, 2:36 PM

I wouldn't give this information too much credit yet.

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... Various sites, tracking back to a forum post on Beyond3D ...

Could well be a misunderstanding or an error in translation. Let's wait for some official announcements about GT:HD.

Regards
the Interceptor

SL65 · September 21st, 2006, 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlitzR

I hope they don't do that for GT5, but this GT HD is just prologue. Who the heck buys Prologue anyway.

Me

I was a sucker with the buying of previous Prologues but not anymore. This is just a total waste if I'm honest images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

BlitzR · September 21st, 2006, 2:57 PM

I wonder if they will combine TT with GT, like the E3 GT HD. TT just isn't successful by itself. Already seeing used copies in the preowned sections. So many abbreviations images/smilies/tongue.gif

Blind_Io · September 21st, 2006, 4:08 PM

This is Sony we are talking about, I would not put any underhanded dirty money-making trick past them.

Janus · September 21st, 2006, 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlitzR

I wonder if they will combine TT with GT, like the E3 GT HD. TT just isn't successful by itself. Already seeing used copies in the preowned sections. So many abbreviations images/smilies/tongue.gif

Yes, yes there are many abbreviations. What is TT?

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Originally Posted by SL65AMG~V12~612BHP!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by BlitzR

I hope they don't do that for GT5, but this GT HD is just prologue. Who the heck buys Prologue anyway.

Me

I was a sucker with the buying of previous Prologues but not anymore. This is just a total waste if I'm honest images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

I also payed good money for that cobbled together "game". But I don't think I would again.

vRS · September 21st, 2006, 5:06 PM

Silly idea, PD should spend there time making GT5 the best ever insted of stuff like this.

TT is Tourist Tropey, its basicly GT but with bikes.

YF19pilot · September 21st, 2006, 10:58 PM

Sounds like an idea I had twisted and perverted.

Basically, my thoughts were that you should be able to get the full game (lets say it comes with the 750 cars and 50 tracks) for normal price ($50~60). As time goes on, they release cars and you can download them.

Though wouldn't it be better to have the option of "you can buy this car with money, or with in game credits"? Depending on the car they can change the price, so a rarer car will cost more, etc.

KaJuN · September 22nd, 2006, 9:30 AM

It's almost as bad as the in-game advertising you see nowadays. Then they still make you pay $50-60 a game?? images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

the Interceptor · September 22nd, 2006, 9:34 AM

Ferrari is confirmed for GT:HD images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/de...article_id=374

M3lover · September 22nd, 2006, 4:27 PM

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Ferrari is confirmed for GT:HD

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/de...article_id=374

YES YES YES YES!!!!!!! images/smilies/w00t.gif

I don't really care about Ferrari being in GT:HD since i'm not going to buy it, but this means it's VERY likely to be in GT5, along with some of the other real supercars.
Finally they gave in.
Sign me up for a PS3 once GT5 gets out

Oh, and the idea of paying for ALL the cars and tracks is totally gay.
Wouldn't mind that much paying ~.50 € for new cars if the original includes about 800 nice ones to begin with. But I would ofcourse prefer them to be free.

wooflepoof · September 22nd, 2006, 4:41 PM

FERRARI IN GT5!?!?!?!?!

...oh God..i just pooped myself images/smilies/w00t.gif

KaJuN · September 22nd, 2006, 4:49 PM

What happened to the good old days where you unlocked new cars and tracks by beating races? Now they're making you pay money to do it? images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Any word on how much the game will cost by itself? If it's just as much as any other game for the system that's just wrong. I have a bad feeling Sony is going to be the downfall of gaming. images/smilies/sad.gif

The sad thing is, people will actually buy into this even after shelling out huge money for the console.

I'll stick with the Wii, half the price of the cheapest PS3 and you get a game with it. I think Sony is going to get Nintendowned!

YF19pilot · September 22nd, 2006, 7:51 PM

Like others said, HD seems to be another "Prologue", so it'll probably be dirt cheap compared to other new games...untill you start paying for cars images/smilies/tongue.gif

But now that Ferrari is going to be on there (about damn time!) I know I'm going to have to get a PS3 eventually...anyone know of a car list yet?

hype · September 23rd, 2006, 1:40 AM

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Originally Posted by the Interceptor

Ferrari is confirmed for GT:HD images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/de...article_id=374

FINNALY!!! images/smilies/w00t.gif

Leonidae · September 23rd, 2006, 11:28 PM

meh. I want want my Bugatti Veyron, so screw the econoboxes like Ferrari.. images/smilies/lol.gif

Ripplin · September 24th, 2006, 2:40 AM

The buying cars online part sounds really bad, but overall, I'm mostly reminded of GT3, which was just an upgraded version of GT2. It looked pretty, but it didn't have as many cars as 2 did and felt a bit lacking overall. GT2 and GT$ are my favorites, and it's GT5 that I really look forward to. The first incarnation of a popular game is never that great on a new system in general. (there are exceptions, like Soul Calibur, which was a launch game for the Dreamcast and is still amazing)

M3lover · September 24th, 2006, 1:13 PM

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meh. I want want my Bugatti Veyron, so screw the econoboxes like Ferrari..

Since most VAG brands (- Lamborghini images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

) was included in GT4 there should be a good chance they get it in GT5 or even HD

Oh, and since Ferrari is in, wouldn't that mean Masserati also could be included? Gogo MC12 images/smilies/tongue.gif

Redliner · September 24th, 2006, 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3lover

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meh. I want want my Bugatti Veyron, so screw the econoboxes like Ferrari..

Since most VAG brands (- Lamborghini images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

) was included in GT4 there should be a good chance they get it in GT5 or even HD

Oh, and since Ferrari is in, wouldn't that mean Masserati also could be included? Gogo MC12 images/smilies/tongue.gif

I like your way of thinking! images/smilies/smile.gif

Let's hope you're right.

September 21st, 2006, 4:08 PM	#6
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YF19pilot Joined: Apr 15th, 2005 Last Online: 4:36 AM Location: Fargo, ND Age: 25 Posts: 2,114 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 GL LFS Status: Rep Power: 30	Sounds like an idea I had twisted and perverted. Basically, my thoughts were that you should be able to get the full game (lets say it comes with the 750 cars and 50 tracks) for normal price ($50~60). As time goes on, they release cars and you can download them. Though wouldn't it be better to have the option of "you can buy this car with money, or with in game credits"? Depending on the car they can change the price, so a rarer car will cost more, etc. __________________ I can finally say that, yes, I have driven a car with a front mounted V10.

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KaJuN Disco Inferno Joined: Jul 31st, 2006 Last Online: 12:29 PM Location: American in Okinawa Age: 23 Posts: 5,069 Car: Suzuki Swift, Honda Benly CL50 Rep Power: 176	It's almost as bad as the in-game advertising you see nowadays. Then they still make you pay $50-60 a game?? __________________ ...and Michigan still sucks. D-Fence: Kajun is just outside caressing his Discovery....touching it gently, you know......it is such a dirty bitch.....but he seems to love dirty girls in high heels who are taller then him and have "quite a few pounds" on their hips ^^ This post was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. My Flickr

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the Interceptor I LUV MY PRIUS!!! Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: 12:00 PM Location: Germany Posts: 3,521 Car: BMW E36 323i ultraleggera (-143 kg) Rep Power: 108	Ferrari is confirmed for GT:HD http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/sp/de...article_id=374 __________________ "We have to laugh at the Germans, because they're so riddled with guilt about their history, they can't laugh at themselves." - Jeremy Clarkson Got a question regarding Hi-Fi of any kind? Then check my general audio thread.

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BlitzR Joined: May 1st, 2006 Last Online: 12:16 PM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 1,598 Rep Power: 30	I hope they don't do that for GT5, but this GT HD is just prologue. Who the heck buys Prologue anyway.

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BlitzR Joined: May 1st, 2006 Last Online: 12:16 PM Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 1,598 Rep Power: 30	I wonder if they will combine TT with GT, like the E3 GT HD. TT just isn't successful by itself. Already seeing used copies in the preowned sections. So many abbreviations

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vRS Joined: Nov 22nd, 2004 Last Online: November 11th, 2009 Location: Stirling, Scotland Age: 18 Posts: 1,832 Car: '02 Vauxhall Corsa SXi Rep Power: 35	Silly idea, PD should spend there time making GT5 the best ever insted of stuff like this. TT is Tourist Tropey, its basicly GT but with bikes.

September 22nd, 2006, 4:49 PM	#14
KaJuN Disco Inferno Joined: Jul 31st, 2006 Last Online: 12:29 PM Location: American in Okinawa Age: 23 Posts: 5,069 Car: Suzuki Swift, Honda Benly CL50 Rep Power: 176	What happened to the good old days where you unlocked new cars and tracks by beating races? Now they're making you pay money to do it? Any word on how much the game will cost by itself? If it's just as much as any other game for the system that's just wrong. I have a bad feeling Sony is going to be the downfall of gaming. The sad thing is, people will actually buy into this even after shelling out huge money for the console. I'll stick with the Wii, half the price of the cheapest PS3 and you get a game with it. I think Sony is going to get Nintendowned! __________________ ...and Michigan still sucks. D-Fence: Kajun is just outside caressing his Discovery....touching it gently, you know......it is such a dirty bitch.....but he seems to love dirty girls in high heels who are taller then him and have "quite a few pounds" on their hips ^^ This post was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. My Flickr

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YF19pilot Joined: Apr 15th, 2005 Last Online: 4:36 AM Location: Fargo, ND Age: 25 Posts: 2,114 Car: 1990 Volvo 740 GL LFS Status: Rep Power: 30	Like others said, HD seems to be another "Prologue", so it'll probably be dirt cheap compared to other new games...untill you start paying for cars But now that Ferrari is going to be on there (about damn time!) I know I'm going to have to get a PS3 eventually...anyone know of a car list yet? __________________ I can finally say that, yes, I have driven a car with a front mounted V10.

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Leonidae Banned Joined: Jun 2nd, 2006 Last Online: September 25th, 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 849 Rep Power: 0	meh. I want want my Bugatti Veyron, so screw the econoboxes like Ferrari..

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Ripplin Joined: Jun 14th, 2005 Last Online: November 5th, 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 365 Car: 2004 Honda CR-V EX Rep Power: 19	The buying cars online part sounds really bad, but overall, I'm mostly reminded of GT3, which was just an upgraded version of GT2. It looked pretty, but it didn't have as many cars as 2 did and felt a bit lacking overall. GT2 and GT$ are my favorites, and it's GT5 that I really look forward to. The first incarnation of a popular game is never that great on a new system in general. (there are exceptions, like Soul Calibur, which was a launch game for the Dreamcast and is still amazing) __________________ My deviantART gallery

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