[07x09] May 16th, 2005 - Page 2

Kebab gud · May 21st, 2005, 05:06 PM

no.. the outcome was as i whould hav ekspected it to be..

redslert · May 21st, 2005, 06:27 PM

they got the results from an internet survey
oh yeh they are so damn accurate

Roman · May 21st, 2005, 06:57 PM

Shoot-out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/tmsml/X5.jpg

I wouldn't want to go off roading in that but that's exactly it and BMW and Porsche have got it.
No one will so they make them to handle on the road.
I wonder what kind of time the Turbo Cayenne would have got ? images/smilies/think.gif

________________

Most prestigious car in Britain:

Jaguar ! ? !

#1 ? images/smilies/eek.gif

-Bentley:"This brand says you've arrived."
-Me:"... at the dealer, for repairs !"

Prestigious ? Maybe.
Reliable ? H*ll no !

-Bentley:"The relatively slow selling Jaguar X-Type"

I wonder why ? images/smilies/wink.gif

Brits... Sometimes it gets to me the way they depict their car industry.
All car makers have their strengths and weaknesses.

Poorly placed pride, me thinks.
_________________

Informative show. Liked it.

Thanks again to Viper & Vuk for making it available.
And Overheat for trying to provide it on Monday.
_________________

Next week, the M5 ! images/smilies/smile.gif

Tobias · May 21st, 2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

Brits... Sometimes it gets to me the way they depict their car industry.

American shows do the same thing. Car & Driver TV picked the Ford GT over the Ferrari Challenge Stradale and Porsche GT3. Yeah, the GT may be quick in a straight line, but no way does it have the refinement of its two European competitors. Watching that show, you'd think the Corvette was the greatest thing on four wheels.

Roman · May 21st, 2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias

American shows do the same thing. Car & Driver TV picked the Ford GT over the Ferrari Challenge Stradale and Porsche GT3. Yeah, the GT may be quick in a straight line, but no way does it have the refinement of its two European competitors. Watching that show, you'd think the Corvette was the greatest thing on four wheels.

'Am not saying they don't do it or that they are right if they do but it doesn't bother me. Wanna know why ?

'Cause I don't watch them ! images/smilies/lol.gif

Mcmerc SLR · May 21st, 2005, 09:17 PM

Utter shite, i don`t car about 4x4s' or some crappy french car, can`t wait till top gear starts.

Liquid_Turbo · May 21st, 2005, 10:08 PM

well its something called Bias.

I was totally blown away that Jag got most prestigious car?? Gimme a break.

I'd like to think that the entire world would probably agree the C-Class is the most prestigious out of the bunch. They didn't even give any details about the survey. For all we know, it could've just been a 100 people images/smilies/lol.gif

Oman4x4 · May 21st, 2005, 11:07 PM

The Merc is a far nicer ride than the Jag...

And I can see the vibrating seats being the key selling feature...

If this car is a big seller I'm going to make some decals that say "No Officer, I'm not drunk, my seat vibrates as I change lanes without warning." for the back window images/smilies/smile.gif

I'm thinking I may have to explain the smirk if I ever see a hot girl step out of one of those cars images/smilies/biggrin.gif

I'm also tempted to go to the dealer with a friend and ask if they can make the passenger seat vibrate for her too images/smilies/biggrin.gif

The standard Aux-Input is a feature I'd like to see more cars adopt though.

As for the 4x4 test, am I mistaken or did they really just test the top spec small X5 against the mid-lower spec big heavy Cayenne?

And yes, people do take the Cayenne offroad.

http://www.porschecluboman.com/photogallery/photo31201/Cayen0074.JPG

Click here for a much bigger picture

Had they tested the Turbo against their precious X5, the results would have been very different. The Cayennes understeer was surprising though... it looked like it just wanted to get some more time in offroad images/smilies/lol.gif

ske · May 22nd, 2005, 12:28 AM

I agree that the Jag should be the most 'prestigious' car there, but for all the wrong reasons.... Nobody under 50 in their right mind would wanna own one, therefore you don't see a lot of them (at least in Norway), so they seem more 'exclusive' even though they shouldn't.

Mercs are more common than Mazdas over here (95% of all cabs in Norway are mercs btw, I kid you not), so I'd in fact rate the Merc dead last in that batch. It's about as prestigious as an Avensis in my eyes. Remember these are the low-end cars we're talking about.. buying the cheapest option of a brand doesn't equal prestige. It's like wearing a gucci t-shirt (or whatever's good these days, i dunno) compared to a suit... right? images/smilies/tongue.gif

Bear in mind that I don't consider the A and the vans to be real Mercs here images/smilies/wink.gif

In fact I'd rate them Merc > BMW > VW > Lexus > Audi > Jag, based on the image associated with them over here.

Kebab gud · May 22nd, 2005, 01:02 AM

i still cant se why people like Audis.. the A4 is nothing more the an passat in another grill....
there nothing!
and the offer the most sickining interior colors on the PLANET!

the only peopel i see driving Audis are Old farts and creapy looking people who used to drive BMWs..
(ske knows who im talking about)

ske · May 22nd, 2005, 01:19 AM

It's not as much about liking Audis as not disliking them. They're pretty honest, well engineered, well designed, overpriced cars. You won't get labeled a drugdealer or a geriatric when you're in an Audi, so I don't agree on the old fart image (I guess that's dependent on where you live). That spot's pretty much owned by Mercedes. And we all know that the creeps still drive BMWs. images/smilies/wink.gif

jeremy_clarkson_is_a_SOB · May 22nd, 2005, 01:32 AM

yeah, i have to agree that the jag is nothing compared to a merc. mercedes make far better cars then jaguars. if that survey was held here in the u.s. the jag would not be in be even in the top 3.

Treza360 · May 22nd, 2005, 02:47 AM

I think though if we were looking at the big boys like the E-Class, 5 Series and Jaguar XJ though, I'd say that the XJ is the most prestigous. It just has so much more old school style, charm and snobbery then the other two IMO.

Cruzz563 · May 22nd, 2005, 03:15 AM

S-type competes with the E-class and 5 series and the A6

but if you meant 7, S, and A8 then yeah, I'd have to vote the XJ as the most prestigous, but that's it, not reliable, not quietest...etc images/smilies/smile.gif

As for the S type being most prestigious in it's class, I'd have to say no to that.

djhace · May 22nd, 2005, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfh

love'd the bit when Tiff powerslided the X5 images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Same here. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

yeah, me too.

djhace · May 22nd, 2005, 07:30 AM

it would been fun if the C4 VTS would been fast like a Civic Type-R. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

djhace · May 22nd, 2005, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kebab gud

i still cant se why people like Audis.. the A4 is nothing more the an passat in another grill....
there nothing!
and the offer the most sickining interior colors on the PLANET!

the only peopel i see driving Audis are Old farts and creapy looking people who used to drive BMWs..
(ske knows who im talking about)

yeah, driving audi's and eating kebab. can't be more wrong. hah images/smilies/lol.gif

djhace · May 22nd, 2005, 07:43 AM

why did Lexus change it to IS200, when its a IS300 in the states?

Cruzz563 · May 22nd, 2005, 08:00 AM

djhace

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It's named the IS200 in Europe cause it has a 2.0 litre engine, the IS300 has a 3.0 litre engine... images/smilies/smile.gif

djhace · May 22nd, 2005, 08:02 AM

heh. that make sense. thank you, Cruzz.

May 21st, 2005, 05:06 PM	#21
Kebab gud Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: June 29th, 2008 Location: somewhere in yupe Posts: 1,511 Rep Power: 0	no.. the outcome was as i whould hav ekspected it to be.. __________________ The Kabab Hut: http://the-kebab.blogspot.com/ (working on a better layout)

May 21st, 2005, 06:57 PM	#23
Roman Resident Skydiver Joined: Jan 15th, 2005 Last Online: December 20th, 2008 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 1,612 Car: 03 stick shift PT Cruiser GT & 1994 Mazda Miata. Rep Power: 20	Shoot-out: I wouldn't want to go off roading in that but that's exactly it and BMW and Porsche have got it. No one will so they make them to handle on the road. I wonder what kind of time the Turbo Cayenne would have got ? ________________ Most prestigious car in Britain: Jaguar ! ? ! #1 ? -Bentley:"This brand says you've arrived." -Me:"... at the dealer, for repairs !" Prestigious ? Maybe. Reliable ? Hll no ! -Bentley:"The relatively slow selling Jaguar X-Type" I wonder why ? Brits... Sometimes it gets to me the way they depict their car industry. All car makers have their strengths and weaknesses. Poorly placed pride, me thinks. _________________ Informative show. Liked it. Thanks again to Viper* & Vuk for making it available. And Overheat for trying to provide it on Monday. _________________ Next week, the M5 ! __________________ . . . Not your average pt or Miata driver...

May 21st, 2005, 09:17 PM	#26
Mcmerc SLR Joined: May 2nd, 2005 Last Online: September 22nd, 2006 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Utter shite, i don`t car about 4x4s' or some crappy french car, can`t wait till top gear starts. __________________

May 21st, 2005, 11:07 PM	#28
Oman4x4 Joined: May 3rd, 2005 Last Online: December 11th, 2005 Location: Oman, The Middle East Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	The Merc is a far nicer ride than the Jag... And I can see the vibrating seats being the key selling feature... If this car is a big seller I'm going to make some decals that say "No Officer, I'm not drunk, my seat vibrates as I change lanes without warning." for the back window I'm thinking I may have to explain the smirk if I ever see a hot girl step out of one of those cars I'm also tempted to go to the dealer with a friend and ask if they can make the passenger seat vibrate for her too The standard Aux-Input is a feature I'd like to see more cars adopt though. As for the 4x4 test, am I mistaken or did they really just test the top spec small X5 against the mid-lower spec big heavy Cayenne? And yes, people do take the Cayenne offroad. Click here for a much bigger picture Had they tested the Turbo against their precious X5, the results would have been very different. The Cayennes understeer was surprising though... it looked like it just wanted to get some more time in offroad __________________ 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport with a long list of accessories.

May 22nd, 2005, 12:28 AM	#29
ske Joined: Apr 6th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Trondheim/Norway Age: 32 Posts: 191 Rep Power: 0	I agree that the Jag should be the most 'prestigious' car there, but for all the wrong reasons.... Nobody under 50 in their right mind would wanna own one, therefore you don't see a lot of them (at least in Norway), so they seem more 'exclusive' even though they shouldn't. Mercs are more common than Mazdas over here (95% of all cabs in Norway are mercs btw, I kid you not), so I'd in fact rate the Merc dead last in that batch. It's about as prestigious as an Avensis in my eyes. Remember these are the low-end cars we're talking about.. buying the cheapest option of a brand doesn't equal prestige. It's like wearing a gucci t-shirt (or whatever's good these days, i dunno) compared to a suit... right? Bear in mind that I don't consider the A and the vans to be real Mercs here In fact I'd rate them Merc > BMW > VW > Lexus > Audi > Jag, based on the image associated with them over here.

May 21st, 2005, 06:27 PM	#22
redslert Joined: Jul 20th, 2004 Last Online: January 2nd, 2009 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	they got the results from an internet survey oh yeh they are so damn accurate

May 21st, 2005, 10:08 PM	#27
Liquid_Turbo Joined: Apr 10th, 2005 Last Online: October 9th, 2008 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	well its something called Bias. I was totally blown away that Jag got most prestigious car?? Gimme a break. I'd like to think that the entire world would probably agree the C-Class is the most prestigious out of the bunch. They didn't even give any details about the survey. For all we know, it could've just been a 100 people

May 22nd, 2005, 01:02 AM	#30
Kebab gud Joined: Apr 2nd, 2005 Last Online: June 29th, 2008 Location: somewhere in yupe Posts: 1,511 Rep Power: 0	i still cant se why people like Audis.. the A4 is nothing more the an passat in another grill.... there nothing! and the offer the most sickining interior colors on the PLANET! the only peopel i see driving Audis are Old farts and creapy looking people who used to drive BMWs.. (ske knows who im talking about) __________________ The Kabab Hut: http://the-kebab.blogspot.com/ (working on a better layout)

May 22nd, 2005, 01:19 AM	#31
ske Joined: Apr 6th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Trondheim/Norway Age: 32 Posts: 191 Rep Power: 0	It's not as much about liking Audis as not disliking them. They're pretty honest, well engineered, well designed, overpriced cars. You won't get labeled a drugdealer or a geriatric when you're in an Audi, so I don't agree on the old fart image (I guess that's dependent on where you live). That spot's pretty much owned by Mercedes. And we all know that the creeps still drive BMWs.

May 22nd, 2005, 01:32 AM	#32
jeremy_clarkson_is_a_SOB Joined: May 20th, 2005 Last Online: February 27th, 2007 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	yeah, i have to agree that the jag is nothing compared to a merc. mercedes make far better cars then jaguars. if that survey was held here in the u.s. the jag would not be in be even in the top 3.

May 22nd, 2005, 02:47 AM	#33
Treza360 Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: December 15th, 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 56 Car: 2004 MkIV VW Golf R32 Rep Power: 0	I think though if we were looking at the big boys like the E-Class, 5 Series and Jaguar XJ though, I'd say that the XJ is the most prestigous. It just has so much more old school style, charm and snobbery then the other two IMO.

May 22nd, 2005, 03:15 AM	#34
Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	S-type competes with the E-class and 5 series and the A6 but if you meant 7, S, and A8 then yeah, I'd have to vote the XJ as the most prestigous, but that's it, not reliable, not quietest...etc As for the S type being most prestigious in it's class, I'd have to say no to that. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

May 22nd, 2005, 07:30 AM	#36
djhace Joined: Oct 17th, 2004 Last Online: July 12th, 2007 Location: long beach, ca. us of a. Posts: 151 Rep Power: 0	it would been fun if the C4 VTS would been fast like a Civic Type-R. __________________ ...el sueco! ( å )

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djhace Joined: Oct 17th, 2004 Last Online: July 12th, 2007 Location: long beach, ca. us of a. Posts: 151 Rep Power: 0	why did Lexus change it to IS200, when its a IS300 in the states? __________________ ...el sueco! ( å )

May 22nd, 2005, 08:00 AM	#39
Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	djhace button It's named the IS200 in Europe cause it has a 2.0 litre engine, the IS300 has a 3.0 litre engine... __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

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May 22nd, 2005, 08:02 AM	#40
djhace Joined: Oct 17th, 2004 Last Online: July 12th, 2007 Location: long beach, ca. us of a. Posts: 151 Rep Power: 0	heh. that make sense. thank you, Cruzz. __________________ ...el sueco! ( å )

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