[09x10] July 3rd, 2006

Viper007Bond · July 4th, 2006, 5:53 AM

Discuss it here. images/smilies/smile.gif

Viper007Bond · July 4th, 2006, 6:09 AM

Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me?

And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something?

Peter3hg · July 4th, 2006, 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me?

And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something?

Which ones? We have zig-zags, hatchings, random coloured bits of road and even some that legally mean nothing.

Viper007Bond · July 4th, 2006, 7:13 AM

The one from the contest in this episode. What color of double stripe means no waiting or something.

Peter3hg · July 4th, 2006, 7:28 AM

Oh right, Double Yellow lines means no stopping at any time. In the centre of London their are also some Double Red lines which means absolutely no waiting, i.e. not even ambulances etc. can stop there.

awdrifter · July 4th, 2006, 8:31 AM

This episode was good. The C6 test was kinda cool. Altho with those low profile tires the ride height difference was probably not as big as the old DS. The Honda Legend is the US Acura RL. It should be faster than the 530i and the A6, it has a 300hp V6, but I guess it's the same problem as most of the Honda cars, it's way under tired. If it has wider and grippier tires it'll probably be closer to the 530i's time. The Japan car dealership segment was cool, but not as good as the road side service station segment (from a few eps back) tho.

Blind_Io · July 4th, 2006, 9:11 AM

Is it wrong of me to want to like the C6? I really do like the styling of it and it looks so comfortable inside. Eww I feel dirty just typing that - I need to go gargle with Toilet Duck. Finding a car I fit in comfortably is not easy - and finding a stylish one is nearly impossible. The C6 seems very good in those respects but I do have some reservations. It's apparently gutless on the power and let's face it - it's French. So it has poor build quality, gizmos and gadgets galore, and plenty of space. Why is this car not being sold in the US?

As for the Honda Legend. I am pretty sure that the "Acrua" badge only exists in North America to get away from the stigma of Honda being a "budget" car. They don't want their high end cars to have an H on the front. No where else in the world has the tradition that US makers do of having the same car badged as a Ford, Mercury and Lincon even though it's just a different trim package.

Defcon · July 4th, 2006, 11:19 AM

If they get rid of all the Vicki segments and replace them with more Tom, 5th gear would be about 27 milllion times more watchable. Is it me or does she like the sound of her own voice a bit too much. That whole road rallycar segment was completely pointless, and there's more to come images/smilies/cry.gif

fbc · July 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Not a bad episode - though I think others this series have been better. Tom's report on Megaweb was the standout - that place is just amazing. The C6 report was interesting - but I truly can't stand cars with that much front overhang (that means you Peugeot 407).

For once I didn't mind Jason's story - let's have Honda put that AWD system in a decent chassis and see what it can do. As for choosing a Legend over a 5'er or A6 - err it's not going to happen Honda, even if it could lap as fast as them.

Enjoyed VBH's rallycross report - though that's probably because I'm a huge fan of the sport... As for the 'kill the MB bit' - didn't really grab me, but it hasn't done so since the first instalment.

The Mini segment was, however, a total waste of time.

AstonMartin · July 4th, 2006, 12:57 PM

why FG piece on the Merc with Vicki smelt like the TG piece of the Toyota Hilux?

I have given up on FG a loooong time ago images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

AM

logo · July 4th, 2006, 1:29 PM

what a boring ep as usual.

Overheat · July 4th, 2006, 1:45 PM

I enjoyed the Tom sections as usual. Seems he's the only one left in the team who actually knows how to be a motoring journalist.

VIPER: re: the stripes - as far as understand it, no stripe means you can park there, one stripe means you can only park there on sundays and two stripes means no parking at any time.

jmb · July 4th, 2006, 2:54 PM

VBH bugs me a fair bit sometimes - mainly when she squeaks! The rallycross bit was ok, but the merc bit had a definite echo of top gear.
Tom's bits were good - the Jap car dealership definitely looks worth a visit if you're out that way, and he made a dull car entertaining with the C6 review.
I hope I win the R32 images/smilies/smile.gif

Kebab gud · July 4th, 2006, 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me?

And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something?

Honda Legend = Acura RL ..

ViperGTS-R · July 4th, 2006, 5:30 PM

Wasn't this episode supposed to be the one with Tiff in D1? Tom's segment was ok but the rest was a bit boring...Also didn't VBH look 10 years older in this ep than in the previous ones?

Groagun · July 4th, 2006, 7:08 PM

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As for the Honda Legend. I am pretty sure that the "Acrua" badge only exists in North America to get away from the stigma of Honda being a "budget" car. They don't want their high end cars to have an H on the front. No where else in the world has the tradition that US makers do of having the same car badged as a Ford, Mercury and Lincon even though it's just a different trim package.

Actually Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infinity have these second brand names because of North American import auto laws. When all these brands were really starting to sell huge amounts of cars, their North American production numbers were low and the laws at the time prevented these companies from importing any more vehicles without imposing some very heavy import duty taxes in order to prevent flooding the market with cheap off shore vehicles. The theory was to save companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler from cheap off shore imports, and save American and Canadian jobs. To get around these laws, the big 3 from Japan started seperate companies (Acura/Lexus/Infinity) so they could import more vehicles and sell them without the duty taxes that would have seen and extra $5000.00 to $10 000.00 on top of MSRP.

bartboy9891 · July 4th, 2006, 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me?

And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something?

Honda Legend = Acura RL ..

isnt it exactly the same? why did Honda wait so long to start selling it abroad? its been sold as an Acura for a while now in the US

XYZviper · July 4th, 2006, 7:40 PM

Worst episode ever, Vicky? images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

To much "Want to be TG"

Tobias · July 4th, 2006, 7:46 PM

Why do you guys hate Vicki so much? I'd rather look at her than Jason and his big schnozz.

Vicki is the only reason to watch 5th Gear.

Kebab gud · July 4th, 2006, 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bartboy9891

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Originally Posted by Kebab gud

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me?

And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something?

Honda Legend = Acura RL ..

isnt it exactly the same? why did Honda wait so long to start selling it abroad? its been sold as an Acura for a while now in the US

been on sale in europe for about a year now too ... but only in a few places..

came on sale in japan in 2004, in selected places in europe and as the acura in 2005 and the rest of europe in 2006

July 4th, 2006, 5:53 AM	#1
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 10:47 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	[09x10] July 3rd, 2006 Discuss it here. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 4th, 2006, 6:09 AM	#2
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 10:47 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Anyone care to explain the crazy British road paint stripes to me? And what's this Honda Legend thing? Is it the same as an Acura or something? __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 4th, 2006, 7:13 AM	#4
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 10:47 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,270 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	The one from the contest in this episode. What color of double stripe means no waiting or something. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

July 4th, 2006, 7:28 AM	#5
Peter3hg Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Manchester, UK Age: 20 Posts: 4,536 Car: 2006 Yamaha Fazer LFS Status: Rep Power: 44	Oh right, Double Yellow lines means no stopping at any time. In the centre of London their are also some Double Red lines which means absolutely no waiting, i.e. not even ambulances etc. can stop there. __________________

July 4th, 2006, 8:31 AM	#6
awdrifter Joined: Aug 29th, 2004 Last Online: 5:06 PM Posts: 1,956 Rep Power: 47	This episode was good. The C6 test was kinda cool. Altho with those low profile tires the ride height difference was probably not as big as the old DS. The Honda Legend is the US Acura RL. It should be faster than the 530i and the A6, it has a 300hp V6, but I guess it's the same problem as most of the Honda cars, it's way under tired. If it has wider and grippier tires it'll probably be closer to the 530i's time. The Japan car dealership segment was cool, but not as good as the road side service station segment (from a few eps back) tho. __________________ TP

July 4th, 2006, 9:11 AM	#7
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 7:16 PM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,993 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	Is it wrong of me to want to like the C6? I really do like the styling of it and it looks so comfortable inside. Eww I feel dirty just typing that - I need to go gargle with Toilet Duck. Finding a car I fit in comfortably is not easy - and finding a stylish one is nearly impossible. The C6 seems very good in those respects but I do have some reservations. It's apparently gutless on the power and let's face it - it's French. So it has poor build quality, gizmos and gadgets galore, and plenty of space. Why is this car not being sold in the US? As for the Honda Legend. I am pretty sure that the "Acrua" badge only exists in North America to get away from the stigma of Honda being a "budget" car. They don't want their high end cars to have an H on the front. No where else in the world has the tradition that US makers do of having the same car badged as a Ford, Mercury and Lincon even though it's just a different trim package. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

July 4th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#8
Defcon Joined: Jun 11th, 2005 Last Online: 1:54 AM Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	If they get rid of all the Vicki segments and replace them with more Tom, 5th gear would be about 27 milllion times more watchable. Is it me or does she like the sound of her own voice a bit too much. That whole road rallycar segment was completely pointless, and there's more to come

July 4th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#9
fbc Moderator Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 11th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 11,776 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 128	Not a bad episode - though I think others this series have been better. Tom's report on Megaweb was the standout - that place is just amazing. The C6 report was interesting - but I truly can't stand cars with that much front overhang (that means you Peugeot 407). For once I didn't mind Jason's story - let's have Honda put that AWD system in a decent chassis and see what it can do. As for choosing a Legend over a 5'er or A6 - err it's not going to happen Honda, even if it could lap as fast as them. Enjoyed VBH's rallycross report - though that's probably because I'm a huge fan of the sport... As for the 'kill the MB bit' - didn't really grab me, but it hasn't done so since the first instalment. The Mini segment was, however, a total waste of time. __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

July 4th, 2006, 12:57 PM	#10
AstonMartin Joined: Nov 15th, 2004 Last Online: July 25th, 2007 Location: London Posts: 208 Rep Power: 0	why FG piece on the Merc with Vicki smelt like the TG piece of the Toyota Hilux? I have given up on FG a loooong time ago AM

July 4th, 2006, 1:29 PM	#11
logo Joined: Jul 18th, 2004 Last Online: 2:19 AM Location: Canada-Ottawa Posts: 1,703 Rep Power: 23	what a boring ep as usual. __________________ Adrenaline. Always Hungry, 1 n33d foods bebe!

July 4th, 2006, 1:45 PM	#12
Overheat Joined: Sep 7th, 2004 Last Online: September 30th, 2008 Location: Bradford, UK Posts: 5,735 Rep Power: 29	I enjoyed the Tom sections as usual. Seems he's the only one left in the team who actually knows how to be a motoring journalist. VIPER: re: the stripes - as far as understand it, no stripe means you can park there, one stripe means you can only park there on sundays and two stripes means no parking at any time. __________________

July 4th, 2006, 2:54 PM	#13
jmb Joined: May 8th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Oundle Posts: 126 Car: Ford Focus TDCI '55 Rep Power: 16	VBH bugs me a fair bit sometimes - mainly when she squeaks! The rallycross bit was ok, but the merc bit had a definite echo of top gear. Tom's bits were good - the Jap car dealership definitely looks worth a visit if you're out that way, and he made a dull car entertaining with the C6 review. I hope I win the R32 __________________ Visit the puffle website for photography, Free Mobile themes and more! Check out my HTPC Blog as I try and get a dual tuner HD Freesat Mediaportal based PC up and running! Low cost server and network monitoring - Keep Alive :: My Free Windows Mobile cinema listings app

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ViperGTS-R Joined: Jun 14th, 2006 Last Online: November 19th, 2009 Location: Greece Age: 27 Posts: 69 Car: E36 BMW 318is Rep Power: 0	Wasn't this episode supposed to be the one with Tiff in D1? Tom's segment was ok but the rest was a bit boring...Also didn't VBH look 10 years older in this ep than in the previous ones? __________________ On a given day, a given circumstance, you think you have a limit and you then go for this limit and you touch this limit and you think ok this is the limit. As soon as you touch this limit something happens and sometimes you can go a little bit harder, with your mind power, your determination, your instinct and the experience as well, you can fly very high … A. S.

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XYZviper Joined: Aug 14th, 2005 Last Online: 5:46 PM Location: Lithuania Age: 25 Posts: 270 Car: TOYOTA Yaris Rep Power: 19	Worst episode ever, Vicky? To much "Want to be TG"

July 4th, 2006, 7:46 PM	#19
Tobias Loves Vicki... Joined: Mar 26th, 2005 Last Online: 7:34 PM Location: New York Age: 24 Posts: 1,076 Car: 2006 Honda S2000 Rep Power: 38	Why do you guys hate Vicki so much? I'd rather look at her than Jason and his big schnozz. Vicki is the only reason to watch 5th Gear.

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