[12x05] October 1st, 2007

SL65 · September 15th, 2007, 03:38 AM

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Vicki Butler-Henderson takes two, virtually identical, Audi TTs to the track for a shoot-out. The only difference between them is that one has a manual gearbox, while the other has a semiautomatic one. Traditionally, automatic gearboxes are slow and ponderous, blunting outright performance, but the new breed is meant to be much slicker. So which will be faster? Vicki finds out against the clock.

After a six-year wait, there is finally a chic rival to BMW’s Mini – the new Fiat 500. It is so new that the official UK launch is not due until early 2008, but Fifth Gear have obtained one. Tom Ford puts the vehicle to the test – is this the car to be spotted in next year?

The Gumpert Apollo is a supercar with a striking name and very striking statistics: 650 brake-horse power, 0–62 in three seconds and a 224 mph top speed. Tiff Needell takes it to the track to find out if the car is worth its £225,000 price tag.

Elsewhere in tonight’s show, a look at the Bowler Nemesis – a 500 bhp extreme off-roader designed to tackle the world’s toughest rallies, such as the Dakar. And do fuel additives really work? Can a few squirts in to your fuel tank really act as a wonder drug that transforms your engine’s performance? Four leading brands are scientifically tested to find out.

epp_b · September 15th, 2007, 03:46 AM

I sure hope the manual TT is faster. Put an end to those sissy gearboxes.

Tobias · September 15th, 2007, 03:46 AM

WTF is a Gumpert Apollo? I hope Jonny is somewhere in this ep. :-\

powah · September 15th, 2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias

WTF is a Gumpert Apollo? I hope Jonny is somewhere in this ep. :-\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gumpert_Apollo

Aiolos · September 16th, 2007, 03:50 AM

Cool, the Gumbert part should be sweeeeeeeeeeet. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

The Fiat 500 was an icon, so we'll see....

The Gearbox test should be interesting....*ponders*

Cobol74 · September 16th, 2007, 10:35 AM

OK, my bet is that the auto wins. ...

Gumpert Apollo + Tiff = great piece of TV.

FIAT 500 - there is a buzz about this car already - I hope FIAT make enough of them. ...

Yes good show there.

Necx0 · September 16th, 2007, 10:48 AM

yeh I reckon DSG will be quicker than the manual, especially with Vicki driving. Maybe I'm being harsh but I can't take her shootouts credibly as I don't see her driving as consistent enough to deliver a 100% verdict.

SR_TII · September 16th, 2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Necx0

yeh I reckon DSG will be quicker than the manual, especially with Vicki driving. Maybe I'm being harsh but I can't take her shootouts credibly as I don't see her driving as consistent enough to deliver a 100% verdict.

I think you are right, Japan's Best Motoring did a comparison between the VW GTI Manual versus a VW GTI equipped with DSG. Using launch control and even with Keiichi "Drift King" Tsuchiya driving the manual shifting very aggressively, the DSG was still faster due to it's twin clutch design.

I still remember that "reaction test" show where she used the scientific method of banging a clipboard against the dash and a stopwatch. I hope this test will be better than that.

Martyn · October 1st, 2007, 06:29 PM

There was a Gumpert Apollo at Rockingham yesterday, it looks rather cool! Sounded pretty nice too!

Viper007Bond · October 1st, 2007, 10:03 PM

http://forums.finalgear.com/fifth-gear-episode-discussions/12x05-october-1st-2007-a-21849/

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Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 01:39 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 5,827 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 50	OK, my bet is that the auto wins. ... Gumpert Apollo + Tiff = great piece of TV. FIAT 500 - there is a buzz about this car already - I hope FIAT make enough of them. ... Yes good show there. __________________

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epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 04:35 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,724 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 41	I sure hope the manual TT is faster. Put an end to those sissy gearboxes.

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Necx0 Joined: Jun 21st, 2007 Last Online: 03:16 AM Location: Hobart, Tasmania Age: 22 Posts: 1,814 Car: R31 Skyline, Charade rally car Rep Power: 15	yeh I reckon DSG will be quicker than the manual, especially with Vicki driving. Maybe I'm being harsh but I can't take her shootouts credibly as I don't see her driving as consistent enough to deliver a 100% verdict.

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Martyn Joined: Feb 5th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Stafford, England Age: 24 Posts: 445 Car: Ford Focus Rep Power: 17	There was a Gumpert Apollo at Rockingham yesterday, it looks rather cool! Sounded pretty nice too!

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