Tiff

jeffy777 · March 24th, 2005, 07:37 PM

Am I the only one who finds Tiff kind of annoying? Don't get me wrong, he's a great driver and all, however his on-air presence is more like a news anchor than a cool person, and he seems to have the same tone as a news caster. Maybe I haven't watched enough episodes, but this is just what my wife and I think. It's one of the reasons why we like Top gear better: the presenters are more "easy going" or something, not sure what would be the best phrase to use images/smilies/smile.gif

I apologize if this has already been discussed before!

Cruzz563 · March 24th, 2005, 08:30 PM

I think it was discussed, but it didn't have it's own thread, it was part of a wider topic... images/smilies/smile.gif

And I can't remember where it's @ atm.

storms_of_fate · March 25th, 2005, 07:30 AM

I know what you mean, he isn't like clarckson with the sense of humour. But they are diferent people coming from diferent backgrounds. I like Tiff's driving more, he (and Vicky images/smilies/biggrin.gif

) puts cars to their limits when testing... even vans!!! now how cool is that? I don't really mind, but I can see where you are coming from.

On the other thand, Clarckson (big fan here) can be anoying as well. Especially his written articles. I remember there was one about... Porsche he wrote a while back. 3/4 of the thing was on how times has changed in society, how his daughter is going to school etc etc.

Diferent people, diferent style, Tiff can steer that's fine with me.

CamoN · March 25th, 2005, 08:57 AM

Sometimes Tiff sounds like he is kind of exhausted at the beginning of a segment. Like the Porsche Boxster just now. I got the image he ran all the way from London to Scotland or where ever they were filming, and just started praising the Boxster as soon as he got there. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Scud · March 25th, 2005, 01:29 PM

Tiff is great.

He can drive anything sideways.
Also he put his knee down on his first ever track day on a bike.

Not many can say the same.

SPG900 · March 25th, 2005, 01:50 PM

Yes Scud, that's all true. But it doesn't make him a great presenter, does it?

mappe · March 26th, 2005, 11:26 AM

Great driver, not that great presener. nuff said

Scud · March 26th, 2005, 11:52 AM

Who cares about that.

dru · March 27th, 2005, 08:26 AM

we are .. we want to see someone that really care about the car market and so ..
no doubt about car handling .. but it needs more jeremy's ...... images/smilies/sad.gif

Scud · March 27th, 2005, 08:37 AM

Dont you think Tiff cares?

Sure Jeremey is fun and all that but he doesn't give a shit about other cars he doesn't like.

On Top gear it's always about aston martin or some other super car normal people cant afford.

On Fifth Gear they usualy test cars we normal people can afford.
ofcourse sometimes they do test super cars but not as often as Top gear.

jeffy777 · March 27th, 2005, 04:57 PM

They test all kinds of affordable cars on Top Gear images/smilies/smile.gif

When I brought up Tiff, I was mainly referring to his overall delivery and tone of voice, not so much the words he says or his outlooks on cars. Fifth Gear is still a cool show.

dilznufis · March 27th, 2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scud

Dont you think Tiff cares?

Sure Jeremey is fun and all that but he doesn't give a shit about other cars he doesn't like.

On Top gear it's always about aston martin or some other super car normal people cant afford.

On Fifth Gear they usualy test cars we normal people can afford.
ofcourse sometimes they do test super cars but not as often as Top gear.

I agree completely. You can tell Tiff has a love for all cars, while Jeremy only likes supercars. If Tiff is driving some crappy econobox he just slides it the entire review and makes it fun, instead of complaining about it like Jeremy.

jeffy777 · March 27th, 2005, 11:45 PM

Jeremy doesn't only like supercars. He liked the Renault Clio and the Citroen Berlingo for example becasue they both have character.

Tobias · March 28th, 2005, 12:07 AM

Jeremy is definitely the most opinionated of the two, making him more interesting to listen to while Tiff is more fun to watch. I like them both.

dilznufis · March 28th, 2005, 12:19 AM

Jeremy does make many more jokes,Tiff makes slim to none, which is the onlything that makes hime watchable, besides the hilarious and weird faces he makes.

Firecat · March 28th, 2005, 02:24 AM

I'd do both...uh, I mean...i think they both are pretty cool

Scud · March 29th, 2005, 11:02 AM

To me Jeremy is a comedian with a HUGE EGO.

Tiff is a proper test driver and test each car 100%.

As I said Jeremy is fun but Tiff is way better in handling and testing cars.

I only watch Top gear to get a laugh.
I watch Fifth gear to actually get some knowledge of the cars.

Viper007Bond · March 29th, 2005, 11:06 AM

Jeremy is definetly the better presenter, but I do love Tiff's reviews as they are more about the car than praising Ferraris. images/smilies/tongue.gif

But seriously, Tiff (as well as Jason and Vicki for that matter) push the cars to the limit and seriously see how well they can perform. The only person who can drive on TG is the Stig. It's great to have a presenter that can be driving a car like crazy while talking about it, even if I don't get as many laughs while watching it. images/smilies/wink.gif

Overall, I like Tiff and have a HUGE amount of respect for the man. images/smilies/thumbup.gif

kenezzite · March 30th, 2005, 09:08 AM

I think that Tiff is way better than Jeremy, I don't understand why you guys like Jeremy so much. He always puts everybody down and thinks that his opinion is the greatest advice.

monoposto · March 30th, 2005, 09:46 AM

Television is still largely entertainment. Jeremy being the clown that he is makes
the better entertainment. That is the point that he knows very well. In fact, he has mastered being a clown which is why he won creative control of Top Gear.
Tiff's driving is entertaining but he certainly is not as entertaining a "character"
in front of the camera as Jeremy.

You can't please everybody or cover everyone's interest or suit everyone's taste.
The higher ratings of Top Gear after Jeremy took full control means the greater majority of viewers like what they see. And it is no secret that it is because they are entertained. That was the point that Jeremy proved correctly to the BBC management who previously tried to continue the "real life" car reviews sans Jeremy and lost viewership in the process. Afterall, would viewers want to watch reviews of the mundane and boring? The showbiz Clown rules! Hail Jeremy!

However, have Tiff and Vicky compete and challenge. We get to enjoy both shows!
The more the merrier! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

March 24th, 2005, 07:37 PM	#1
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 03:38 AM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,663 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 53	Tiff Am I the only one who finds Tiff kind of annoying? Don't get me wrong, he's a great driver and all, however his on-air presence is more like a news anchor than a cool person, and he seems to have the same tone as a news caster. Maybe I haven't watched enough episodes, but this is just what my wife and I think. It's one of the reasons why we like Top gear better: the presenters are more "easy going" or something, not sure what would be the best phrase to use I apologize if this has already been discussed before!

March 24th, 2005, 08:30 PM	#2
Cruzz563 Cruzz563\|work Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2008 Location: Houston, Texas, The States Age: 24 Posts: 2,657 Rep Power: 25	I think it was discussed, but it didn't have it's own thread, it was part of a wider topic... And I can't remember where it's @ atm. __________________ In the USA, 100% of the Federal Income Tax Money goes to paying interest on the national deficit, and nothing else. Where's the law that says we have to pay?

March 25th, 2005, 07:30 AM	#3
storms_of_fate Joined: Mar 25th, 2005 Last Online: December 5th, 2008 Location: Sydney, AUS Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	I know what you mean, he isn't like clarckson with the sense of humour. But they are diferent people coming from diferent backgrounds. I like Tiff's driving more, he (and Vicky ) puts cars to their limits when testing... even vans!!! now how cool is that? I don't really mind, but I can see where you are coming from. On the other thand, Clarckson (big fan here) can be anoying as well. Especially his written articles. I remember there was one about... Porsche he wrote a while back. 3/4 of the thing was on how times has changed in society, how his daughter is going to school etc etc. Diferent people, diferent style, Tiff can steer that's fine with me. __________________ Karl ---------------- 2003 RenaultSport Clio 2008 Trek 7300 (Engine in the middle, driving the rear wheel)

March 25th, 2005, 08:57 AM	#4
CamoN Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: October 25th, 2008 Location: Finland Age: 22 Posts: 111 Car: Smart Roadster Coupé '04 Rep Power: 17	Sometimes Tiff sounds like he is kind of exhausted at the beginning of a segment. Like the Porsche Boxster just now. I got the image he ran all the way from London to Scotland or where ever they were filming, and just started praising the Boxster as soon as he got there. __________________ I Have The Need. The Need For Speed.

March 27th, 2005, 04:57 PM	#11
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 03:38 AM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,663 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 53	They test all kinds of affordable cars on Top Gear When I brought up Tiff, I was mainly referring to his overall delivery and tone of voice, not so much the words he says or his outlooks on cars. Fifth Gear is still a cool show. __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

March 25th, 2005, 01:29 PM	#5
Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	Tiff is great. He can drive anything sideways. Also he put his knee down on his first ever track day on a bike. Not many can say the same.

March 25th, 2005, 01:50 PM	#6
SPG900 Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: België Posts: 567 Rep Power: 0	Yes Scud, that's all true. But it doesn't make him a great presenter, does it?

March 26th, 2005, 11:26 AM	#7
mappe Joined: Nov 22nd, 2004 Last Online: August 7th, 2005 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Great driver, not that great presener. nuff said

March 26th, 2005, 11:52 AM	#8
Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	Who cares about that.

March 27th, 2005, 08:26 AM	#9
dru Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: June 8th, 2005 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	we are .. we want to see someone that really care about the car market and so .. no doubt about car handling .. but it needs more jeremy's ......

March 27th, 2005, 08:37 AM	#10
Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	Dont you think Tiff cares? Sure Jeremey is fun and all that but he doesn't give a shit about other cars he doesn't like. On Top gear it's always about aston martin or some other super car normal people cant afford. On Fifth Gear they usualy test cars we normal people can afford. ofcourse sometimes they do test super cars but not as often as Top gear.

March 27th, 2005, 11:45 PM	#13
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 03:38 AM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,663 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 53	Jeremy doesn't only like supercars. He liked the Renault Clio and the Citroen Berlingo for example becasue they both have character. __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

March 28th, 2005, 12:07 AM	#14
Tobias Loves Vicki... Joined: Mar 26th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: New York Posts: 810 Rep Power: 16	Jeremy is definitely the most opinionated of the two, making him more interesting to listen to while Tiff is more fun to watch. I like them both. __________________ no pictures cluttering the board here

March 28th, 2005, 12:19 AM	#15
dilznufis Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: September 17th, 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Jeremy does make many more jokes,Tiff makes slim to none, which is the onlything that makes hime watchable, besides the hilarious and weird faces he makes.

March 28th, 2005, 02:24 AM	#16
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 06:22 AM Posts: 3,714 Rep Power: 28	I'd do both...uh, I mean...i think they both are pretty cool __________________

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March 29th, 2005, 11:02 AM	#17
Scud Joined: Dec 12th, 2004 Last Online: October 6th, 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 458 Rep Power: 0	To me Jeremy is a comedian with a HUGE EGO. Tiff is a proper test driver and test each car 100%. As I said Jeremy is fun but Tiff is way better in handling and testing cars. I only watch Top gear to get a laugh. I watch Fifth gear to actually get some knowledge of the cars.

March 29th, 2005, 11:06 AM	#18
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Jeremy is definetly the better presenter, but I do love Tiff's reviews as they are more about the car than praising Ferraris. But seriously, Tiff (as well as Jason and Vicki for that matter) push the cars to the limit and seriously see how well they can perform. The only person who can drive on TG is the Stig. It's great to have a presenter that can be driving a car like crazy while talking about it, even if I don't get as many laughs while watching it. Overall, I like Tiff and have a HUGE amount of respect for the man. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

March 30th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#19
kenezzite Joined: Jan 24th, 2004 Last Online: 07:07 AM Location: USA Posts: 478 Rep Power: 0	I think that Tiff is way better than Jeremy, I don't understand why you guys like Jeremy so much. He always puts everybody down and thinks that his opinion is the greatest advice. __________________

March 30th, 2005, 09:46 AM	#20
monoposto Joined: Mar 22nd, 2005 Last Online: January 7th, 2009 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Television is still largely entertainment. Jeremy being the clown that he is makes the better entertainment. That is the point that he knows very well. In fact, he has mastered being a clown which is why he won creative control of Top Gear. Tiff's driving is entertaining but he certainly is not as entertaining a "character" in front of the camera as Jeremy. You can't please everybody or cover everyone's interest or suit everyone's taste. The higher ratings of Top Gear after Jeremy took full control means the greater majority of viewers like what they see. And it is no secret that it is because they are entertained. That was the point that Jeremy proved correctly to the BBC management who previously tried to continue the "real life" car reviews sans Jeremy and lost viewership in the process. Afterall, would viewers want to watch reviews of the mundane and boring? The showbiz Clown rules! Hail Jeremy! However, have Tiff and Vicky compete and challenge. We get to enjoy both shows! The more the merrier!