Polar Special 1080p Rip is out! - Page 10

Lediur · February 18th, 2008, 10:05 PM

I can play the sample video cleanly.

I can play the 1080p demo video released by nVidia to showcase their PureVideo technology.

Why can't I play this episode?

I have an 8800GTS with 320 MBs of memory and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+.
4 GB of memory.

Viper007Bond · February 18th, 2008, 10:14 PM

Latest nVidia drivers? Have FFDShow installed? Using something like Media Player Classic?

And I have no clue if the 4400+ is poweful enough. I'm an Intel guy.

Lediur · February 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM

I am using Media Player Classic.

After tweaking the settings a bit, I got it to work with CoreAVC but it's completely hogging the CPU, when I thought that hardware acceleration would kick in.

The 4400 is powerful enough, I can watch the sample video and Ratatouille in HD without any problems.

FFDShow is installed.

Viper007Bond · February 18th, 2008, 11:27 PM

Compressed HD playback is very CPU intensive. Very high CPU usage is to be expected.

Buba · February 19th, 2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lediur

I am using Media Player Classic.

Good

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After tweaking the settings a bit, I got it to work with CoreAVC but it's completely hogging the CPU, when I thought that hardware acceleration would kick in.

Coreavc doesn't have gpu support

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The 4400 is powerful enough, I can watch the sample video and Ratatouille in HD without any problems.

Well, those could have lower bitrates or something, who knows...

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FFDShow is installed.

Good again, but then my guess is that actually ffdshow is decoding, and that usually only uses one core, unless you got a very new build (which you should)

If that is the case go to the filter setting ins mpc and add coreavc under "external filters" and click "prefer". My C2D6300 which is around 10-20% faster than yours plays it @less than 50% on each core...

janstett · February 19th, 2008, 12:17 PM

^ the problem is the mkv videos are using the h.264 codec. It gives best quality and lower bittates than mpeg2. Problem is as far as I know no video cards are designed to accelerate h.264 only MPEG. Further don't know if the decoder you're using is multi core aware so it will hog a single CPU.

Try playing it with vlc.

Buba · February 19th, 2008, 01:29 PM

^ All GF7 and up cards can do hardware decoding (partially at least and with the right decoder)
All Ati X1xxx and up as well, so FAIL.

Also vlc uses libavodec, which is used in ffdshow as well, so that does very little to none in decoding performance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libavcodec)

unnamed_one · March 15th, 2008, 10:08 PM

hey is there a 1080i version out there. OR is there a program to convert the 1080p to 1080i. My crapy old crt hd tv can only play 1080i.

db2450 · March 16th, 2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by unnamed_one

hey is there a 1080i version out there. OR is there a program to convert the 1080p to 1080i. My crapy old crt hd tv can only play 1080i.

What ever system (MEdia Center PC, etc.) you are using to play it will scale it to 1080i as long as the settings are set so it knows your display is 1080i.

bluemoose · April 14th, 2008, 10:43 PM

does anybody play this 1080p video on PS3?

if so, how did you covert it?

Thanks!

Crazyjeeper · August 6th, 2008, 01:00 AM

I just got this in 1080p.

It looks amazing.

Viper007Bond · August 6th, 2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyjeeper

I just got this in 1080p.

It looks amazing.

aaurora · August 10th, 2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyjeeper

I just got this in 1080p.

It looks amazing.

*silly question*

I have this on DVD - Does that mean the DVD is 1080p as well? I noticed it looked a lot nicer than the one I previously downloaded.

fbc · August 10th, 2008, 04:40 AM

^ The DVD will be in standard DVD resolution - 720 * 576 for PAL.

Viper007Bond · August 10th, 2008, 07:14 AM

1080p = 4 times the quality of PAL DVD, around 6 times the quality of NTSC.

aaurora · August 10th, 2008, 11:14 AM

Aaah, ok! Is the 1080p available on an FTP? And if I download it and put it on a dvd to watch on television will it still be 4 times the quality? Thanks for your help

Viper007Bond · August 10th, 2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aaurora

Aaah, ok! Is the 1080p available on an FTP?

Dunno, it's a rather large file.

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Originally Posted by aaurora

And if I download it and put it on a dvd to watch on television will it still be 4 times the quality? Thanks for your help

No, DVDs are not high-def, hence the invention of Blu-ray. You also have to have a HDTV in order to view it properly otherwise you're wasting your time with it. I mean, no sense in displaying a 1920x1080 video on a 640x480 screen (i.e. old analog TV).

And since the video file is compressed, you also need a fast computer to play back 1080i/1080p. Fast as in like a 2+ GHz Core 2 Duo. Plus most LCD monitors can't do 1080p either.

I'd suggest sticking to SD (standard definition) or possibly 720p (which is a lot easier on your computer to play back). It looks nearly as good, especially if you don't have a big 50" HDTV to play it on.

fbc · August 10th, 2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

You also have to have a HDTV in order to view it properly otherwise you're wasting your time with it. I mean, no sense in displaying a 1920x1080 video on a 640x480 screen (i.e. old analog TV).

Even then, you need a big enough screen and to be sitting close enough to it to notice the difference between HD & SD.

Viper007Bond · August 10th, 2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fbc

Even then, you need a big enough screen and to be sitting close enough to it to notice the difference between HD & SD.

I couldn't disagree more. My mom has a 32" HDTV and it's incredibly easy to tell what's being broadcast in HDTV versus just plain DTV. Huuuge difference.

fbc · August 10th, 2008, 02:48 PM

^ Interesting - everything else I've read implies otherwise. Comes down to a matter of the human eye just not being able to differentiate between the resolutions at a given distance for a given size of display - from memory for a 50" display you needed to be closer than ~8 feet to see the difference. It was backed up by science about the human eye and just what it can make out. (6 months ago I was tossing up buying a 50" display so did a heap of research into it).

Not doubting you or anything - just interesting to have another take on it. How far back from the screen are you?

Actually what could be making the difference might not be the resolution itself, but the panel's native resolution being (presumably) 1080, so an SD source gets scaled up which may affect how it looks since it's not being shown in it's native resolution - so the HD looks brilliant since it's in a 1:1 source resolution vs display resolution, whereas perhaps the upscaling of the SD signal is somehow making it look less than fantastic

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	Compressed HD playback is very CPU intensive. Very high CPU usage is to be expected. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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February 18th, 2008, 10:05 PM	#181
Lediur Joined: Jun 23rd, 2007 Last Online: January 5th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I can play the sample video cleanly. I can play the 1080p demo video released by nVidia to showcase their PureVideo technology. Why can't I play this episode? I have an 8800GTS with 320 MBs of memory and an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+. 4 GB of memory.

February 18th, 2008, 10:21 PM	#183
Lediur Joined: Jun 23rd, 2007 Last Online: January 5th, 2009 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I am using Media Player Classic. After tweaking the settings a bit, I got it to work with CoreAVC but it's completely hogging the CPU, when I thought that hardware acceleration would kick in. The 4400 is powerful enough, I can watch the sample video and Ratatouille in HD without any problems. FFDShow is installed.

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janstett Joined: Jul 9th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Chester, NJ Posts: 1,137 Car: 86 944 Turbo, 2000 Trans Am, 02 Jeep Rep Power: 22	^ the problem is the mkv videos are using the h.264 codec. It gives best quality and lower bittates than mpeg2. Problem is as far as I know no video cards are designed to accelerate h.264 only MPEG. Further don't know if the decoder you're using is multi core aware so it will hog a single CPU. Try playing it with vlc.

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unnamed_one Joined: Mar 15th, 2008 Last Online: January 7th, 2009 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	hey is there a 1080i version out there. OR is there a program to convert the 1080p to 1080i. My crapy old crt hd tv can only play 1080i.

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bluemoose Joined: Apr 14th, 2008 Last Online: December 8th, 2008 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	does anybody play this 1080p video on PS3? if so, how did you covert it? Thanks!

August 10th, 2008, 07:14 AM	#195
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 21,086 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 237	1080p = 4 times the quality of PAL DVD, around 6 times the quality of NTSC. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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aaurora Not A Dude Joined: Feb 23rd, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 28 Posts: 567 Car: Mazda6 Luxury Sports Rep Power: 20	Aaah, ok! Is the 1080p available on an FTP? And if I download it and put it on a dvd to watch on television will it still be 4 times the quality? Thanks for your help __________________ I object to the beige

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fbc Mantastic! Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 33 Posts: 10,641 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 82	^ Interesting - everything else I've read implies otherwise. Comes down to a matter of the human eye just not being able to differentiate between the resolutions at a given distance for a given size of display - from memory for a 50" display you needed to be closer than ~8 feet to see the difference. It was backed up by science about the human eye and just what it can make out. (6 months ago I was tossing up buying a 50" display so did a heap of research into it). Not doubting you or anything - just interesting to have another take on it. How far back from the screen are you? Actually what could be making the difference might not be the resolution itself, but the panel's native resolution being (presumably) 1080, so an SD source gets scaled up which may affect how it looks since it's not being shown in it's native resolution - so the HD looks brilliant since it's in a 1:1 source resolution vs display resolution, whereas perhaps the upscaling of the SD signal is somehow making it look less than fantastic __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com Last edited by fbc; August 10th, 2008 at 02:54 PM..