Polar Special 1080p Rip is out! - Page 2

janstett · July 27th, 2007, 1:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonax

Probably a stupid question to ask - But is the 1080p version worth getting for on a 1680x1050 resolution monitor over the 720p version?

It's always better to have too much information that gets scaled down, than too little information that gets scaled up.

When you take a 1920x1080 image and scale it to 1680x1050, you're losing pixels. When you take a 1280x720 image and scale it to 1680x1050, you're making up information that isn't there.

civuck · July 27th, 2007, 1:56 AM

A couple of questions...

1) Does anyone have some production tech info like what cameras were used? I'm assuming XDCAM-HD which is MPEG2 based and records to disc (similar to Blu-Ray) at bitrates up to 35Mbps at 1440x1080. That was probably the best choice given the extreme conditions.

2) Anyone tried playback on either a Xbox 360 or PS3? They should have enough horsepower.

Jakg · July 27th, 2007, 2:14 AM

any chance of the 720p vid? I seem to have trouble with 1080 stuff (which i dont think i should - AMD 3700@3 GHz, 7950GT + PureVideo stuff), and it would be overkill for my 1680*1050 monitor anyway.

sephiroth99 · July 27th, 2007, 2:31 AM

im sad

the casino royale sample works no1 in media player classic.

i got the usenet release of topgear hd 1080i, and its laggy and the sound doesnt follow. in media player 11 video is ok but very intense sound delay...

guess ill wait for the 720p release...

j.reed · July 27th, 2007, 5:48 AM

Does anyone know if the provided torrents can stream to an XBox 360 using its built in solution? I'm sure TVersity can decode it on the fly, but that would probably be just as intensive as watching it on the Host PC.

I'm currently at 70% so unless anyone can test before I can, I'll let you know if crappy computer streaming to a 360 can play this successfully.

Dsemaj · July 27th, 2007, 7:44 AM

Damn.

I've got a P4 660, 2GBs of RAM, and a Nvidia Go GF 7800 GTX, and it wont play properlly! Damn. But that said, I have very old video drivers.. images/smilies/smile.gif

So maybe..

un-dee · July 27th, 2007, 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Levin

Can you go into a bit more detail? I'm just curious; I didn't know there was a third option -- I thought it was either interlaced or progressive.

Thanks!

Steve

I'm not an expert on this topic, but I think when using MBAFF the encoder decides for each macroblock (16x16) if it uses progressive or interlaced encoding. Since TG most likely was filmed progressive the whole image is made from progressive blocks. Its still being broadcasted as Interlaced material (50fields/second), but the decoder can just skip deinterlacing on the blocks and therefore you get a result identical to progressive broadcasting.

Buba · July 27th, 2007, 9:28 AM

All those with playback problems: Go and try coreavc... While some encodes don't look as topnotch as they do with ffdshow, its mighty fast. I usually have 35-45% cpu usage when watching 1080p (and this is a bit less, as has been established in the recent posts) on an unoced C2D 6300...

@civchuck: Dig around here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/production/hd.shtml its the production guidellines, maybe you'll find your answers...

Loser · July 27th, 2007, 10:03 AM

does anybody know where to get

"Top.Gear.Polar.Special.720p.HDTV.x264-BiA"

ViDEO: x264 at 2915 kbps
AUDiO: AC3 2.0 384kbps 48khz
ASPECT RATiO: 16:9
RESOLUTiON: 1280x720
FRAME RATE: 25 fps
SIZE: 1.43 GB (1,536,351,966 bytes)

Buba · July 27th, 2007, 10:16 AM

bitmetv.org has it, but I don't have any invites left...

Flashman2003 · July 27th, 2007, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sephiroth99

im sad

the casino royale sample works no1 in media player classic.

i got the usenet release of topgear hd 1080i, and its laggy and the sound doesnt follow. in media player 11 video is ok but very intense sound delay...

guess ill wait for the 720p release...

Hi I've got the same problem with the usenet release. I'm still downloading the torrent to see if it will be ok because my computer has the power to read it easly. I will also try to demux the ts file myself...

Vette Boss · July 27th, 2007, 11:01 AM

A properly set-up Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 X2 will run HD just fine, equivalent Intel chip should run it just as easily. All you really need is CoreAVC to get it working.

My rig is using an A64 X2 4400+ with 2gb RAM running CoreAVC, Haali Media Splitter and WMP 11, I got about 30% CPU usage on average. Only problem I had was that WMP 11 didn't close itself properly at the end.

Loser · July 27th, 2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buba

bitmetv.org has it, but I don't have any invites left...

I also saw it there, but my ratio is too bad to dl it from there...

ahpadt · July 27th, 2007, 4:49 PM

I'm trying to play the file and I get this (it doesnt go any further. 'Opening' is all I get):

http://www.phyrefile.com/pic/2007/07/27/polar1080.JPG

I got all the right codecs (non-pro coreavc 1.2, but that should work?) and I think my hardware is sufficient. 1080p blu-rays plays like a dream so I cant see how a normal 1080p mkv shouldnt work..

Got: Intel P D840 (3.2ghz), 2GB ram, geforce 7800gtx..

Flashman2003 · July 27th, 2007, 5:41 PM

Hello, I finally got the usenet release to work and surprisingly it only works with ... Windows Media PLayer images/smilies/smile.gif

I'm still amazed by the quality it's like those demo clips you see in shops.
I'm also amazed by the lack of software to read this kind of files (h264 HD). When reading Top Gear it uses just a bit over the half of the processor capacity and mine is not so new (Pentium D940). So I hope in the future we'll see more software to be able to have more HD clips in this quality. Maybe VLC will do it soon
By the way how do you read your BluRay downloads? I downloaded only The Island in BluRay but I can only read in power dvd ultra.

db2450 · July 27th, 2007, 6:54 PM

Wasn't the 720p rip supposed to be out later yesterday evening?

sobs images/smilies/cry.gif

//Dave · July 27th, 2007, 7:33 PM

I can play 720p with about 30~50% CPU usage on my system. 1080p I wouldn't bother with since I don't have a screen capable but 1080i is impossible to watch anyways, so many frames dropped.

Running:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
3GB RAM
Nvidia 6800GT
MPC w/CoreAVC || VLC

Louisville Slugger · July 27th, 2007, 7:52 PM

That .ts file from the newsgroups wouldn't play very well on my AMD Athlon 64 desktop, but my Core Duo laptop played it fine.

My desktop has had no problems playing 720p or 1080p H.264, .mkv files though, hm.

//Dave · July 27th, 2007, 8:10 PM

Yeah, it's strange. I just tried to play a 720p WMV-HD file and my desktop couldn't handle it though MKVs playback just fine. I think I need an upgrade.

Louisville Slugger · July 27th, 2007, 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by //Dave

Yeah, it's strange. I just tried to play a 720p WMV-HD file and my desktop couldn't handle it though MKVs playback just fine. I think I need an upgrade.

Just another excuse for an upgrade right?

images/smilies/lol.gif

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Vette Boss Joined: Nov 14th, 2004 Last Online: 9:16 AM Location: United States, Britain, in time Age: 23 Posts: 3,641 Car: 2006 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T Rep Power: 66	A properly set-up Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 X2 will run HD just fine, equivalent Intel chip should run it just as easily. All you really need is CoreAVC to get it working. My rig is using an A64 X2 4400+ with 2gb RAM running CoreAVC, Haali Media Splitter and WMP 11, I got about 30% CPU usage on average. Only problem I had was that WMP 11 didn't close itself properly at the end. __________________ 2006 Volkswagen Passat 2.0T. Das Auto

July 27th, 2007, 4:49 PM	#34
ahpadt Joined: May 7th, 2006 Last Online: 2:44 AM Location: The Norwaylands Posts: 4,572 Rep Power: 60	I'm trying to play the file and I get this (it doesnt go any further. 'Opening' is all I get): I got all the right codecs (non-pro coreavc 1.2, but that should work?) and I think my hardware is sufficient. 1080p blu-rays plays like a dream so I cant see how a normal 1080p mkv shouldnt work.. Got: Intel P D840 (3.2ghz), 2GB ram, geforce 7800gtx.. Last edited by ahpadt; July 27th, 2007 at 5:00 PM.

July 27th, 2007, 1:56 AM	#22
civuck Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 2nd, 2009 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	A couple of questions... 1) Does anyone have some production tech info like what cameras were used? I'm assuming XDCAM-HD which is MPEG2 based and records to disc (similar to Blu-Ray) at bitrates up to 35Mbps at 1440x1080. That was probably the best choice given the extreme conditions. 2) Anyone tried playback on either a Xbox 360 or PS3? They should have enough horsepower.

July 27th, 2007, 2:14 AM	#23
Jakg Joined: Mar 19th, 2007 Last Online: August 19th, 2008 Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 1 Car: (Moped) Gilera DNA 50 - 2001 LFS Status: Rep Power: 0	any chance of the 720p vid? I seem to have trouble with 1080 stuff (which i dont think i should - AMD 3700@3 GHz, 7950GT + PureVideo stuff), and it would be overkill for my 1680*1050 monitor anyway.

July 27th, 2007, 2:31 AM	#24
sephiroth99 Joined: Jan 20th, 2006 Last Online: 7:11 AM Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 101 Car: I'm on a train! Rep Power: 17	im sad the casino royale sample works no1 in media player classic. i got the usenet release of topgear hd 1080i, and its laggy and the sound doesnt follow. in media player 11 video is ok but very intense sound delay... guess ill wait for the 720p release...

July 27th, 2007, 5:48 AM	#25
j.reed Joined: Jul 2nd, 2006 Last Online: July 31st, 2007 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Does anyone know if the provided torrents can stream to an XBox 360 using its built in solution? I'm sure TVersity can decode it on the fly, but that would probably be just as intensive as watching it on the Host PC. I'm currently at 70% so unless anyone can test before I can, I'll let you know if crappy computer streaming to a 360 can play this successfully.

July 27th, 2007, 10:03 AM	#29
Loser Joined: Jun 20th, 2005 Last Online: June 21st, 2009 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	does anybody know where to get "Top.Gear.Polar.Special.720p.HDTV.x264-BiA" ViDEO: x264 at 2915 kbps AUDiO: AC3 2.0 384kbps 48khz ASPECT RATiO: 16:9 RESOLUTiON: 1280x720 FRAME RATE: 25 fps SIZE: 1.43 GB (1,536,351,966 bytes)

July 27th, 2007, 5:41 PM	#35
Flashman2003 Joined: Jul 26th, 2007 Last Online: August 10th, 2009 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Hello, I finally got the usenet release to work and surprisingly it only works with ... Windows Media PLayer I'm still amazed by the quality it's like those demo clips you see in shops. I'm also amazed by the lack of software to read this kind of files (h264 HD). When reading Top Gear it uses just a bit over the half of the processor capacity and mine is not so new (Pentium D940). So I hope in the future we'll see more software to be able to have more HD clips in this quality. Maybe VLC will do it soon By the way how do you read your BluRay downloads? I downloaded only The Island in BluRay but I can only read in power dvd ultra.

July 27th, 2007, 6:54 PM	#36
db2450 Joined: Jul 25th, 2007 Last Online: 3:24 AM Posts: 578 Rep Power: 17	Wasn't the 720p rip supposed to be out later yesterday evening? sobs Last edited by db2450; July 27th, 2007 at 7:42 PM.

July 27th, 2007, 7:33 PM	#37
//Dave Joined: Jul 23rd, 2006 Last Online: February 15th, 2009 Location: Penrith, England Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	I can play 720p with about 30~50% CPU usage on my system. 1080p I wouldn't bother with since I don't have a screen capable but 1080i is impossible to watch anyways, so many frames dropped. Running: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 3GB RAM Nvidia 6800GT MPC w/CoreAVC \|\| VLC __________________

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//Dave Joined: Jul 23rd, 2006 Last Online: February 15th, 2009 Location: Penrith, England Posts: 157 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, it's strange. I just tried to play a 720p WMV-HD file and my desktop couldn't handle it though MKVs playback just fine. I think I need an upgrade. __________________

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