100 Greatest Cars (The Winner)

[Kebab gud]

100 cars .. and no Toyota 2000GT ..
even JCs top 100 list had that one on it ..

[Raven18940]

Originally Posted by SiR_dude

Correction - "it's mere". And how can you call yourself a "fan" of the Koenigsegg, and ask about the 800 or so horsepower car that they are coming out with? The CCR has 806hp (or something like that) and that's fairly old news

Not trying to make you feel bad or anything...

I guess mildly interested would be a pretty way of putting it. Without Top Gear I'm really out of date with car news.

[andyhui01]

Originally Posted by general

nope dear it's the pinnacle of engineering tech in a car.25k pounds to service.you should know what it's like to drive

dude... I really don't understand half the posts you made on this forum... first you went OT about randomly saying the RX-7 was 50 something, then you're calling everyone dear?... wtf... could you clear up you're posts

[zeroSignal]

Sorry, just had to point that out - especially since you mentioned someone else's capitalization and punctuation mistakes

I guess I've been pwned. At the risk of sounding whiny and making excuses - I did just come back from uni when I wrote that and I was tired.. But nevermind, don't want to go off topic.

Anyway, yes, the Koenigsegg CC-R does have the McLaren F1 beat in most categories, except the number of seats. Still, however, I think the Koenigsegg is the better car.

[Leppy]

Originally Posted by YipMing

no idea.

What the McF1 has is a flywheel that's "minimal". An aluminium plate that's just thick enough and large enough to tranfer the torque. So it has to eliminates the use of secondary vibrational couples that eliminates vibration. Making it necessary for the engine to be at a 60 degree V angle and also really well build (absolute precision, carefully balanced, etc). With such an expensive car, such a thing is feasible.

Normal cars probably won't take the vibration kindly. But McF1 being a supercar, it's very acceptable.

BTW, WRX is 21st. Hehehe

Edit: Changed a few terms to more proper ones..

Think you'll find its the other way around if anything. A good ol' Datsun 120Y will run forever with bone shaking vibrations... but you get any of this uber sports cars of today and add the same vibrations to them... You better know a good engine rebuilder.

[Z Draci]

Exactly! Price has nothing to do with how good a car is.

The McLaren F1 is more than just a supercar. It also took every day usability and road comfort into consideration. Even though it's not as good on the track as some other hardcore car, the F1 does everything very well. Hence, it's #1.

For a race track, there's other cars I'd rather prefer but if I can only have on car for the rest of my life the F1 is the best!

But what am I talking about? I can't even afford a down payment for one! Let alone a brake rebuild for a car like that!

[Nitemare]

Originally Posted by Raven18940

I'm also a fan of the Koenigsegg, and aren't they supposed to come out with a new 800 or so hp version. Then there's also the new twin turbo Saleen S7, that's a piece of engineering for you. Just goes to show you what happens when you strap turbos to a big v8. WHOOOOOOOOSH!

the point is, that F1 has the unbeatable performance WITHOUT needing any turbos or supercharger...
that's more of an engineering achievment then just strapping huge turbos to an existing engine

and 800hp is nice, but what they don't tell you is that the engine will fall to pieces after 10k kilometres...

[andyhui01]

well... less than that as seen on Gumball 3000.... but nevertheless, I still love that car

[YF19pilot]

Hmm...you know, it'd be interesting if we had a Final Gear top 100 automobiles. Have everyone send in their favorite 10 or so cars, and gauge them all by how many votes they get. Or something like that.

[andyhui01]

thats a pretty good idea... since I'm on holiday the following week... maybe I could get it going?... anyone else think its a good idea?

[Leppy]

Yeah mate I am up for that!

[YipMing]

Originally Posted by Leppy

Think you'll find its the other way around if anything. A good ol' Datsun 120Y will run forever with bone shaking vibrations... but you get any of this uber sports cars of today and add the same vibrations to them... You better know a good engine rebuilder.

I suppose so ... but then I am not talking about rattles as such. More like the F50 type rattle. Too performance orientated to forgo NVH.

Suppose it's a similar reason to why Clarkson prefer the F40 to the Enzo. Enzo is a easier to drive and to live with. But the F40 is much more raw. And so is the McF1 ...

Doesn't matter I suppose. As someone said before, these are cars most of us will never own. Heh ...

Oh well ...

But I agree we should do something like this; Top 10 cars of FinalGear ...

[general]

where do we post then?
Is there a new thread for that yet?

[andyhui01]

na... I'll get it going sometime next week... I just want to ask how would this work?... should I compile a list first, get everyone to PM any cars they want or what?...

[Overheat]

Well, seeing as I've done this list - I'll do the other one too if you like. If everyone simply PMs me a list of 10 cars I'll add them to an excel spreadsheet and tally it all up similar to how Ren does the photoshopping votes. I'll then do as I have here, and post daily the results in 10s in a month's time. Sound good?

If you all agree to this then I'll sort out a section of the forums with Viper, or something similar to announce it

[YF19pilot]

That sounds like it'll work, Overheat. That's actually how I was thinking it should be done (everyone PMs their top 10 cars and sort it out that way).

[toma_alimosh]

ok, so where do we PM our top 10 ?

[bihus]

Will you count it as simple votes, or will we have cars with 1, 2 and 3 points?

[Overheat]

I think simple votes would probably work best, what do you guys think?

[toma_alimosh]

yeah, simple votes is best.