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Old January 6th, 2008, 07:37 AM   #21
 
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I really like the new style, it looks alot more grown up.
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well i am not aware if you know about the dial that can change the diff, as in how much power is sent to the rears, as we hadn't driven the car and only had the car for a short time we didn't want to adjust the diff, we left it on auto and when we went round a sharp corner and put the power down it did what all had a small amount of understeer, not too much just enough to be noticeable. but that being said it is typical of all AWD cars to have a hint of understeer. after discussing this later with a few other people they all said that if you start playing with the diff controls you can eliminate this problem.

hope that helps....
More worried about how the car turns in i guess then just understeer, but i love the adjustable center diff, so good to hear its still there.

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uglee as sin, even the rally spec.

sorry for being so negative on the car, but the design is just revolting. it totally killed the good old subaru design.
you sir, Mr. 130i, are not at liberty to talk about questionably styled hatchbacks.

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Old January 6th, 2008, 07:57 AM   #23
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Every time I see the car i like it more and more.

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I gotta go and try one as soon as I can. It looks much nicer than I was expecting.
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Yeh I like the looks of it quite a bit. Essentially I believe this and the new WRX are the old cars with new chassis/bodies. Mechanically largely unchanged.
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So does that mean it'll be easy to fit a big turbo?
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I don't think any Subaru Impreza was good looking, in the classical sense.

I think what makes the Impreza so beautiful is the purpose behind it. When you watch WRC, it changes your perception. When Subaru did the last redesign, everyone said it was ugly too. But as soon as WRC started using that bodystyle, the detractors started to die out. And today most people would consider the previous bodystyle to be very cool and good looking.

So I think once we start seeing Petter Solberg tearing up the gravel and tarmac in his new hatchback Impreza STi WRC car, watching it get covered in mud and catching incredible air, most people will start calling this latest car beautiful as well.

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WRC must be the reason why the Impreza is now a Hatch Back style car..... the top cars have been hatches for a while now and this year the C4 and Focus just dominated everyone.... i dont think there was any room left for subaru's impreza.

either that or prodrive were just shit at making race cars.

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well i am not aware if you know about the dial that can change the diff, as in how much power is sent to the rears, as we hadn't driven the car and only had the car for a short time we didn't want to adjust the diff, we left it on auto and when we went round a sharp corner and put the power down it did what all had a small amount of understeer, not too much just enough to be noticeable. but that being said it is typical of all AWD cars to have a hint of understeer. after discussing this later with a few other people they all said that if you start playing with the diff controls you can eliminate this problem.

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TG have tested it in their mag and they said they found it best to have the diff set all the way back with most power to the rear.... that sorts any hint of understeer. they were thoroughly impressed with the ar.
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The hatch style is starting to grow on me but I still think that the P1 Coupe and the saloons were a much better shape and just looked nicer

Nice one on getting your hands on the first one in the country, quite an achievement .
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I did a really crappy edit, but what do you think of red taillights?
I think it looks good, even better.

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on of the interesting things was pick up from 3rd, doing 60km/h in 3rd, then foot flat. a second delay then bang, your gone! incredible car
From what I know the new VW's TFSI engines have practically no lag, why doesnt Subaro do something in that direction. Is it like a signature thing or something ?
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WRC must be the reason why the Impreza is now a Hatch Back style car..... the top cars have been hatches for a while now and this year the C4 and Focus just dominated everyone.... i dont think there was any room left for subaru's impreza.

Petter Solberg was very adamant that Subaru uses a hatchback. You could say that he is the reason for this car.
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I'm sure its an awesome car and those who buy it for the right reasons will love'em but the looks are ... well... not to my taste to say the least.

And someone needs to say it: four tailpipes on a four cylinder engine ?


...And not even from a dual line exhaust system. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
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And someone needs to say it: four tailpipes on a four cylinder engine ?

...And not even from a dual line exhaust system. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/STI08exhaust1.JPG

I won't go any further.
You already know Subaru is doing it as an obligatory style point, so why even ask unless its a rhetorical question. It's no more stupid that the dual exhausts coming from single cannister design like the old stock MR2s, they just added the 3rd and 4th tips for looks.

http://www.kotse.com/tech/mr2exhaust/2.jpg

Then what additonal functionality does dual tips provide over single tips coming from the same muffler? flow? noise suppression?
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Well, that will probably account for the reduced sound output of the exhaust, but what amazes me is the new suspension. It looks so crammed under there compared to the old design.

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Petter Solberg was very adamant that Subaru uses a hatchback. You could say that he is the reason for this car.
It's nice to know that Subaru is finally starting to work with Prodrive to design the car again. These past couple of years Subaru/Prodrive's been struggling in WRC.

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Well, that will probably account for the reduced sound output of the exhaust, but what amazes me is the new suspension. It looks so crammed under there compared to the old design.



It's nice to know that Subaru is finally starting to work with Prodrive to design the car again. These past couple of years Subaru/Prodrive's been struggling in WRC.
you do know what the rear suspension on the new Imprezas come from, right?


hint: the current generation rear multi-link setup from the Legacys


and you know where the 5MT tranny/engine setup is coming from as well?

hint: yes, same answer.
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I'm sure its an awesome car and those who buy it for the right reasons will love'em but the looks are ... well... not to my taste to say the least.

And someone needs to say it: four tailpipes on a four cylinder engine ?
The previous STi only had one, and that looked just fine.

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And someone needs to say it: four tailpipes on a four cylinder engine ?

...And not even from a dual line exhaust system. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I won't go any further.
It would be nice if Subaru did true duals, but with the turbo cars the exhaust from the left side goes forward, across the front of the engine, to the right side exhaust manifold, where the turbo is located. And yes, it is complicated.

What Subaru should do is have two small turbos on each side, with true dual exhaust. That would be awesome.
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contrary to what car magazines say ... it looks great ... and it isn't conservatory
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What Subaru should do is have two small turbos on each side, with true dual exhaust. That would be awesome.
Performance wise it would be best. And yes it would be awesome.

But some of the unique Subbie sound would be lost. Oh well...
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Performance wise it would be best. And yes it would be awesome.
But some of the unique Subbie sound would be lost. Oh well...
It sounds good on paper, but is that even a mechically good/efficient idea to mount too small twin turbos on a flat 4? 2 cylinders per dinky turbo? Im not a engineer so I can't back up what i say, but something tells me you wont generate a lot of power that way, and ive never heard anyone who thinks that running true dual exhaust works on anything less than a high powered dual bank 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder motor, is a good idea.
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It sounds good on paper, but is that even a mechically good/efficient idea to mount too small twin turbos on a flat 4? 2 cylinders per dinky turbo? Im not a engineer so I can't back up what i say, but something tells me you wont generate a lot of power that way, and ive never heard anyone who thinks that running true dual exhaust works on anything less than a high powered dual bank 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder motor, is a good idea.
Just a pipe dream. images/smilies/smile.gif Lag would disappear, but Roman is right, the "whump whump whump" on a Subaru turbo engine would be gone. Funny how the distribution of exhaust gasses can give a car so much character.
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