4 Fast 4 Furious: The return of the Diesel [crank] Walker

[73GMCSprint]

Originally Posted by nist7

Your prayers have been answered:

Whose prayers? Not mine.

[American TG Man]

Originally Posted by 73GMCSprint

Whose prayers? Not mine.

[BlaRo]

Originally Posted by thedguy

I've never had anyone EVER ask me that.

You don't go to a school where nobody knows anything about cars.

[zenkidori]

Originally Posted by wooflepoof

Double clutching makes changes quite a bit smoother even in modern synchro cars. And it sounds and feels cooler too

if you're a ricer.

[Vette Boss]

I've been asked a few times if I've seen either one of them, and I'm afraid I have to say yes, I've seen the first one. And then I go on a pedantic rant about how the movies caused a surge in idiot youths who fit stupid exhausts and big spoilers to their cars.

End geezer mode.

[tigger]

Originally Posted by GraemeH

Considering you say only truckers double-clutch you obviously don't know what you're talking about yourself.

seriously, who the hell double-clutchs anything with decent synchros in it? Maybe just for kicks every once in a while? There's no point to it other than that.

[GraemeH]

Originally Posted by tigger

seriously, who the hell double-clutchs anything with decent synchros in it? Maybe just for kicks every once in a while? There's no point to it other than that.

Real drivers do. Double clutch up, and double-clutch in combo with heel-toe on the downs. The point is, aside from saving wear on the synchros and clutch, it makes for smoother shifts and that means no unwanted weight transfer in the longitudinal axis when engaging the new gear.

[Blind_Io]

No unwanted weight transfer, reducing wear on synchros? Gimmie a break! These guys are out doing racing starts and standing burnouts all the time. They are wrecking their clutch, brakes, and tires and you think they are going to double-clutch like a Mack Truck to reduce syncro wear? I've driven cars from the 1970s that have had hundreds of thousands of miles on them and never had the transmission opened and the synchros worked just fine.

Sorry, but that reason just doesn't cut it.

[GraemeH]

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

No unwanted weight transfer, reducing wear on synchros? Gimmie a break! These guys are out doing racing starts and standing burnouts all the time. They are wrecking their clutch, brakes, and tires and you think they are going to double-clutch like a Mack Truck to reduce syncro wear?

No I don't think they are going to do that, it has no place in drag racing. That wasn't my point, my point was the guy that said only truckers do it was wrong.

It's usable in some racing situations, for example, hammering into a braking zone downhill on a slightly rough surface, where the front tyres can overload very easily with the slightest transfer of extra weight (over and above the load caused by the braking). Just hammering it down a gear in that situation could cause the front tyres to overload and lose grip, leaving you in the shit, whereas a smooth-as-silk heel-toe-double-clutch combo on the downshift won't even cause a noticable momentum change on the car, allowing you to use the full limit of traction to slow your car down.

But anyway, it has no place in any of the racing they do in F&F, but it is done by plenty of people. I do it every single shift, just out of habit rather than necessity.

[Steve Levin]

Originally Posted by GraemeH

Just hammering it down a gear in that situation could cause the front tyres to overload and lose grip, leaving you in the shit, whereas a smooth-as-silk heel-toe-double-clutch combo on the downshift won't even cause a noticable momentum change on the car, allowing you to use the full limit of traction to slow your car down.

There should be no difference between a single and double clutched downshift if you are heel and toeing to properly match the revs. Double clutching is strictly for the gearbox, and not relevant to modern gearboxes.

Most modern schools aren't teaching double clutching anymore because it's just one additional action taken under braking, and more actions simply means more chances to screw up.

Steve

[GraemeH]

Originally Posted by Steve Levin

There should be no difference between a single and double clutched downshift if you are heel and toeing to properly match the revs. Double clutching is strictly for the gearbox, and not relevant to modern gearboxes.

Most modern schools aren't teaching double clutching anymore because it's just one additional action taken under braking, and more actions simply means more chances to screw up.

Steve

You can definately feel a difference. If you've matched the rev's in neutral, when you go to move to the lower gear, there's zero resistance on the shifter. It's like the gear stick isn't connected to anything, glides right in. At least, I've found it to be noticable on all of the modern cars I've driven (none of which indicentally have had gear-boxes I've liked the feel of anyway (350z, X-type, 3 series etc) which probably gives extra motivation to smooth the shifts). You're right though, in terms of the effect on the wheels, matching the revs is matching the revs with or without the extra step. But hitting the sweet spot to smooth the physical movement of the gears with no interference from synchros is like hitting a mechanical jackpot or something. Very satisfying, and practical to some extent. And I'm not a trucker.

[janstett]

Good, I was thinking to myself, it's time for a new generation of retards to do horrible things to the Civic their mom bought them, and I haven't had many cars to laugh at in quite a while...

[tigger]

Originally Posted by GraemeH

Real drivers do.

And I reiterate; .

[The_Finn]

more info

Batman, Indy, Hulk, Rambo and Bond are just some of the favorite action heroes coming back to theatres in 2008. But audiences will have to wait until 2009 for the greatest of all…

Well, at least according to Vin Diesel.

“I think doing the cameo in ‘Tokyo Drift’ confirmed a lot of things for me. It confirmed that if you create a role that the world kind of identifies with, or the world adopts, sometimes you have that responsibility to revisit that role,” Diesel enthused of his character Dominic Toretto from the “Fast and the Furious” franchise, which he will revisit in the series’ upcoming fourth installment.

Most fans had given up on the idea of once again seeing Diesel in arguably his most famous part, but it turns out the actor just likes to take his time.

“I’m a little bit slower than the average actor that just jumps into the sequel, but I think the time has come to revisit Dom Toretto.”

Diesel isn’t alone. Paul Walker has also signed on to reprise his role in the upcoming sequel, Vin confirmed.

“Gotta have Paul Walker,” the actor smiled.

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“Brian is freed from prison (the authorities found out that he let Dominic go at the end of the first film) to help the feds stop a heroin importer known as Braga. With the help of an informant named James Park, Brian - and ultimately Dominic Toretto and Sean Boswell - win a place on the criminal’s team, where he - and his flashy Nissan plan to catch the man red-handed.”

“Brian help the feds stop a heroin importer known as Braga. With the help of an informant named James Park, Brian - and ultimately Dominic Toretto - wins a place on the criminal’s team, where he - and his flashy Nissan - plan to catch the man red-handed.” Written by ComingSoon.Net

“In the previous films the cars were fast. It’s not until the fourth that we see the fury of these vehicles. Vin Diesel as Dominic Toretto is back and he’s out for revenge against the Dynasty drivers for kidnapping his daughter. It began 4 years before the first film took place, Toretto’s back story is revealed and the connection between the Han Warrior Import Club is spiced up.”

“Letty has been killed working for drug baron Antonio Braga. Brian, fresh from an undercover stint in prison, is out to catch the man responsible, and so is Dominic. Brian and Dominic go undercover as members of Braga’s drug transportation team.”

[jetsetter]

He should drive the 1970 Chevelle SS from the first film.

[starfox07]

While I can double clutch pretty well, I really do not see the point in a modern car. Now when I'm driving my friends '62 Jeep CJ, its a pure necessity, as it will not go into gear without grinding horribly. In modern cars though, there is simply no benefit besides the sound it makes.

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[Crazyjeeper]

I double clutch when I go into first because its smoother that way. Double clutching for drag racing though?