400 hp 110 MPG mustang

[Night_Hawk]

What does everybody think about this?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...c-2fbec04d2442

I'm not sure what to think. and I'm after thinking about a lot of things...

[bartboy9891]

0-60mph in 3 seconds, 400 hp + 500 lb/ft of torque, 110 mpg

It sounds suspicious, but any thoughts on how it could be achieved?

[Night_Hawk]

I wish I had the time to type for a while but in short, I believe its true.

just a couple thoughts...

1. judging by sound its not diesel, and generally sounds pretty regular for a V8

2. he says 0-60 in 3 seconds and a top speed of "just" over 100MPH. very strange because this makes you assume the car has really low rear end gears or something. wouldn't that be horrible for gas mileage? something else?

3. It's stock shaped on the outside so apparently all this performance and economy is achieved without altering the ... aerodynamics of the car...?

4. This is killing me on the inside.

[bman49]

Specs seem a little to extreme, but it is possible to raise the hp, mpg, and tq and yet lower the emissions. I know a guy who invests millions in making cleaner, and more efficient engines. When I was at lunch with him about a month ago he told me that the latest development is one of the companies he invested in made a spark plug that lowered the emissions and raised the hp, tq, and mpg by 10 percent.

[Gatecrasher]

I'm very suspicious. Its a shame the video doesn't go into detail about exactly how he has achieved this *alleged* level of economy.

[Aiolos]

If this were true and believable, then he should definitely win the X-Prize for the Automotive Industry and they should be putting that engine in a helluva lot of cars.

Now.

[SoxXpupPeT]

hmm. he sounded like he was just guessing 3 seconds. even the smartest people can be retards sometimes. but 100 mph ??? maybe the person that typed the reporters papers missed the "G" and hit the "H" they are right next to one another after all you know.... i remember hearing something about a carb developed in the 50's 60's that would give you the same power but over 60 mpg. dunno anything else about it tho. but i definitely know its possible. but all doubting aside tho. the gas company will probably kill him off and burn his patents before everyone gets a chance to see them

[Seasonone]

Fake fake fake fake fake fake fake and fake.

First, 0-60 in 3 seconds in a foxbody needs MUCH more power than that, lying about stats shows he already isn't above lying. So unless he "magically" found a way to run some insane ratio like 60:1 without a misfire or ping than it won't happen. Ferreri/McLaren would kill for the technology to be able to complete a race without pitting, same with Honda/Toyota. If the next civic/corolla came out with 100mpg nobody would buy anything else.

The ONLY way this is true is if he is counting how much actual petrol used in his E85 mix, which would be far from impressive.


I honestly don't see how a news station can be so desperate for a story that they go talk to some nut job making outrageous claims without even a SLIGHT bit of evidence to back up his theory. What ever happened to news actually reporting news? If you guys believe this than I have these magnets that you put on your fuel line I can sell you for $100 that will make a Hummer cure cancer. This guy is no different than somebody who claims they were abducted by aliens. Just this quack has people who will believe him because of the current gas prices.

[NecroJoe]

It probably has a lot to do with a non-legal exhaust and emissions system. Maybe some lightening, too.

[tigger]

I think this guy is full of shit, and I can't believe that any credible news source would even bother talking to him without rock solid proof. Hell, my car has nearly the same powertrain, and it averages, maybe 17mpg ... on the highway . With a new carb (running lean), mild cam, exhaust and a 5 speed I might get that to 25mpg. But 100+mpg? That's fucking hilarious.

[Deviate]

I'm not going to say there's no way his MPG claim is legitimate. His HP and torque figures (surely "rounded up" for the masses so they'll have nice, even numbers to think about) aren't that spectacular at all for a fox body.

0-60 in 3 seconds? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Not without some VERY substantial suspension work, sticky tires and some help from a bottle in the trunk. Neither of those are exactly good qualities for a daily commuter.

[bartboy9891]

Originally Posted by tigger

I think this guy is full of shit, and I can't believe that any credible news source would even bother talking to him without rock solid proof. Hell, my car has nearly the same powertrain, and it averages, maybe 17mpg ... on the highway . With a new carb (running lean), mild cam, exhaust and a 5 speed I might get that to 25mpg. But 100+mpg? That's fucking hilarious.

There are people that call themselves "hypermilers" that manage ridiculous mpg due to their driving style.
Example: http://www.motherjones.com/news/feat...permilers.html

The guy in that article manages to get nearly 60mpg in a non-modified Accord, just based on his (crazy imo) driving style. This includes shutting the engine off while doing 50mph and taking a 25mph corner at that speed in order to avoid braking!

But the person in the video claims it's a mechanical device that is allowing his claimed 110mpg...

[wooflepoof]

I thought oxymorons belonged in the games section.

Microsoft works

Jumbo shrimp

[thedguy]

I just saw an article, I think on autoblog or jalopnik, that said it was only doing 80mpg....

That article claimed it was all in the electronics. I'll believe it when they come up with some verifiable proof, which we will (or won't) when he makes an attempt for the Automotive X-prize in the near future.

[the Interceptor]

Well, let's take a scientific approach to this. The car seems to be standard in weight, size and shape, so you will need a specific amount of energy to propel it. A conventional combustion engine will reach a maximum efficiency of 37%, so even when it does that, you will need to put in a specific amount of fuel. That said, he would need to boost the efficiency of the engine improve fuel economy by that margin. Maybe he has found a way to do that, who knows. I personally think this is b/s though.

[emil_t]

until it's officialy tested ... it's just hot air, people desperate to appear on TV perhaps ?

[NotLaw]

heres the actual news story, i found it on another forum...

http://www.local6.com/automotive/16768626/detail.html

seems legit... i need that SBF for my car hehe

[BerserkerCatSplat]

OK, what I've head is that it's more or less bollocks. The MPG figure he notes is what he calls "MPGe", which is based on the idea that ethanol only has 1/3 the chemical energy of regular gas. Therefore, he multiples his gas mileage by 3 to get "MPGe"

That's not confirmed, but that's what I've heard and it makes sense.

[emil_t]

Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

OK, what I've head is that it's more or less bollocks. The MPG figure he notes is what he calls "MPGe", which is based on the idea that ethanol only has 1/3 the chemical energy of regular gas. Therefore, he multiples his gas mileage by 3 to get "MPGe"

That's not confirmed, but that's what I've heard and it makes sense.

if that's ture then he's a moron, perhaps that midlife crisis made him desperate to appear on tv, but it should still be more fuel efficient than other similar cars

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Well, don't take that as gospel, I'd love it if he had actually pulled it off.