A short thought on the Dodge Viper [And a poll]

A7XFan22 · June 24th, 2009, 12:34 PM

Now that Fiat has brought the Dodge Viper back from the grave, do you think that Alfa Romeo could bring out a replacement to the 8C Competizione? Since the 8C has already gone out of production, and with Fiat's recently business partnership with Chrysler, do you think this could happen?

I think it would be good as long they didn't ruin the styling of the 8C too much.

Spectre · June 24th, 2009, 12:52 PM

Please find the nearest fire and die in it. Thank you.

Adunaphel · June 24th, 2009, 12:54 PM

I would be curious sto see what Alfa Romeo would design on the Viper's underpinnings. But for it actually happening? Hell no.

stevanford1 · June 24th, 2009, 12:54 PM

Rebadge the viper as a 8C ?

BlaRo · June 24th, 2009, 1:16 PM

Use the platform? Sure. Build it out of the same factory? Maybe, ok.

But directly using the Viper to pass off as a red-blooded Alfa Romeo? The two brands represent completely opposing philosophies: Alfa Romeos have always been about precision and passion and Italian sophistication, while the Viper is a glorious, batshit insane engine on wheels. Both are brilliant in their own ways, but combining the two would definitely lead to war, and I would be taking up arms.

GraemeH · June 24th, 2009, 1:42 PM

No. Completely different styles or car, you'd have to be mad.

One is pansy Italian grace.
The other is dumb American muscle.

Before any fanboys complain, note that both those descriptions include the positives and negatives of each.

Polly · June 24th, 2009, 1:51 PM

Seems a bit far fetched, doesn't it?

Also, they could rebadge the Challenger as the 2010 Ferrari F1 car or vice versa. Duh.

LeVeL · June 24th, 2009, 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Please find the nearest fire and die in it. Thank you.

D-Fence · June 24th, 2009, 3:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adunaphel

I would be curious sto see what Alfa Romeo would design on the Viper's underpinnings. But for it actually happening? Hell no.

Remove rust protection, remove cable insulation, poke a little hole in the fuel lines. images/smilies/smile.gif

C3Vette · June 24th, 2009, 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Please find the nearest fire and die in it. Thank you.

starfox07 · June 24th, 2009, 3:34 PM

8C = 8 cylinder

Viper = V10.

That's just the start of how horribly awful this idea is.

Donington · June 24th, 2009, 3:39 PM

As Will Smith says in every movie he's in..."Awww HELLLL NO!"

BlaRo · June 24th, 2009, 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfox07

8C = 8 cylinder

Viper = V10.

That's just the start of how horribly awful this idea is.

Well, we could just hack off two cylinders, that'd work! Oh wait, we could just throw a Hemi in there! "Hey, your furrin' Eye-tally-an car got a HEMI?" You betcha!

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Bubs360 · June 24th, 2009, 3:44 PM

No.

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/Bowie360/Alfa-Romeo-8C-Competizione-014.jpg

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/Bowie360/2008_dodge_viper_srt10_1.jpg

Again, no. Everyone else has already pointed out the other flaws in this idea.

Doctor Blade · June 24th, 2009, 4:03 PM

Why ruin the viper?

Rowdie · June 24th, 2009, 4:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Blade

Why ruin the viper?

On that note, why ruin the 8c?

Crazyjeeper · June 24th, 2009, 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A7XFan22

Do you think Fiat should rebrand the Dodge Viper as a new Alfa Romeo 8C?

That is the start of the problems. Nothing good has ever come from badge engineering.

Bizness · June 24th, 2009, 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donington

As Will Smith says in every movie he's in..."Awww HELLLL NO!"

well said

Elvis313 · June 24th, 2009, 5:31 PM

While we're at it. They should really rebadge the PT Cruiser as the new Maserati Quattroporte

bartboy9891 · June 24th, 2009, 5:38 PM

I don't see why Alfa couldn't build a new car on the Viper underpinnings. The 8C was based on an outdated Maserati platform and the car itself was unanimously determined to be crap at everything it was claimed to be.

View Poll Results: Do you think Fiat should rebrand the Dodge Viper as a new Alfa Romeo 8C?
Yes, Alfa Romeo should do it as soon as possible.	3	3.33%
Yes, but only if the styling/engine isn't ruined.	3	3.33%
No, but I think it's a good idea.	1	1.11%
No, the Alfa 8C should be left alone.	83	92.22%
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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 9:45 PM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,256 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 371	Use the platform? Sure. Build it out of the same factory? Maybe, ok. But directly using the Viper to pass off as a red-blooded Alfa Romeo? The two brands represent completely opposing philosophies: Alfa Romeos have always been about precision and passion and Italian sophistication, while the Viper is a glorious, batshit insane engine on wheels. Both are brilliant in their own ways, but combining the two would definitely lead to war, and I would be taking up arms. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

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GraemeH Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: 10:43 PM Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,066 Car: Toyota Corolla. Rawrr. LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	No. Completely different styles or car, you'd have to be mad. One is pansy Italian grace. The other is dumb American muscle. Before any fanboys complain, note that both those descriptions include the positives and negatives of each. __________________

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Polly wants a cracker Joined: Dec 9th, 2006 Last Online: 11:19 PM Location: Your Mom. Posts: 2,346 Car: Yes. Because of Parkinsons. Rep Power: 158	Seems a bit far fetched, doesn't it? Also, they could rebadge the Challenger as the 2010 Ferrari F1 car or vice versa. Duh. __________________ More is Better. We are here to get accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Last edited by Polly; June 24th, 2009 at 1:59 PM.

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Bubs360 Joined: Feb 11th, 2007 Last Online: November 19th, 2009 Location: New Hampshire Age: 19 Posts: 469 Car: Vanagon, Saturn SL1 LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	No. Again, no. Everyone else has already pointed out the other flaws in this idea. __________________

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bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: University of Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 8,810 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 79	I don't see why Alfa couldn't build a new car on the Viper underpinnings. The 8C was based on an outdated Maserati platform and the car itself was unanimously determined to be crap at everything it was claimed to be. __________________

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