Absolutely Brutal Cars.

[starfox07]

I ran across this video of a Porsche 935 lapping Hockeheim and I was blown away with the outrageousness of it. Its almost like a human being is not good enough for it (he stalls it like 3 times trying to exit pit lane) then the power delivery is just savage. I remember reading about Nick Mason when he went to LeMans driving a Lola something or other and he mentioned that the Porsche 935's would just fly by him at an alarming rate of speed down the infamous mulsanne straight. At the beginning you start thinking it will be hard to hear the engine over the LOUD fuel pumps, but then...it just isn't.

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Here is part of the reason for the ferocity.


They also had single turbo models I believe.

So post up some cars that were just mental. (try to keep it to factory cars, whether it be race or road cars)

[stevanford1]

Shelby cobra

[MadCat360]

What a hamfisted driver that is.

My vote goes for the Porsche 956, which later became the 962.

This is around Le Mans, with the full straight. Listen to the turbo blowoff.

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[starfox07]

Yep. Those group c cars were approaching 250mph by the time they separated the mulsanne.

[bartboy9891]

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Both Auto Union and the competing Mercedes Benz race cars, known collectively as the Silver Arrows, qualify for this. Skinny tires, questionable aerodynamics, very tricky handling, mid-engined layout, complete lack of safety equipment, up to 16 cylinders, ridiculous power (some had over 600hp), very high speeds (one Mercedes Benz hit close to 270mph on the autobahn during a land speed record attempt), all in the 1930's!

[stevanford1]

Originally Posted by MadCat360

What a hamfisted driver that is.

My vote goes for the Porsche 956, which later became the 962.

This is around Le Mans, with the full straight. Listen to the turbo blowoff.

You should watch in car 956 for more Porsche 956 brilliance.

[American TG Man]

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Formula One cars from the ground effect and turbo eras. The wing cars for the immense levels of downforce and dangerously fast cornering speed, not to mention what happens when the underbody downforce is lost in mid-corner...

But the turbo cars easily qualify for this. Tiny 1.5-liter engine, with whacking-huge turbos producing up to 5 bar of boost, and the resultant lag... yeah...

Originally Posted by Gerhard Berger on the Benetton B186

Rory worked with the front wing endplates so we had a kind of ground effect at some tracks. The car was like a bomb at circuits like Spa, Austria and Monza. And the power was unbelievable - even if the turbo delay was terrible. You'd open the throttle at the entry to the corner only to get the power at the exit. And if you missed it by five or 10 metres, there was nothing you could do - you just spun it. The lag was about one or two seconds.
At Zeltweg, down the long straight to the Bosch Kurve, the car was throwing out 1400 bhp and just kept on pushing - you felt like you were sitting on a rocket.

If I remember correctly, he was still capable of developing wheelspin. In 6th gear. At 340 km/h...

[The_Finn]

Lancia Delta S4. Midengine AWD twincharged

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[BlaRo]

Anything equipped with Turbonique, really. Like, say, this VW Beetle that could turn 9-second quarter-miles:



And go-karts that go 0-160 in 4 seconds:

[vikiradTG2007]

Originally Posted by American TG Man

If I remember correctly, he was still capable of developing wheelspin. In 6th gear. At 340 km/h...

You should have posted a photo of the monster.




Single turbo == masses of lag.

[Aston Martin]

T350r

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[avanti]

I think we can close the thread now, the can am Porsche 917/30!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche...72-1973_Can-Am

http://www.caradvice.com.au/8900/can...hillip-island/

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[The_Finn]

Originally Posted by vikiradTG2007

You should have posted a photo of the monster.




Single turbo == masses of lag.

I love how the throttle body is infront of the turbo so that it creates a vaccume while closed allowing the turbo to keep up more RPM and be less laggy. it's little things like that, that i love about F1 technology

[vikiradTG2007]

Originally Posted by The_Finn

I love how the throttle body is infront of the turbo so that it creates a vaccume while closed allowing the turbo to keep up more RPM and be less laggy. it's little things like that, that i love about F1 technology

So the V6 turbos had the throttle body between the turbos and the engine intake manifold?

And whatever they did with the throttle body there, it couldn't eliminate the horrible lag. It's all about the engine having a single massive turbo which takes time to spool up.