Another reason why buying a $30k Civic isn't the greatest idea - Page 2

bartboy9891 · November 15th, 2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

$30,000 for a CIVIC??? FOr that money you can buy a used EVO or STi, new Mustang GT and have a hell of a lot more fun.

Seriously, the only way I would pay that much money for a performance FWD car is on a MazdaSpeed 3.

Also, my annoyance with the price aside, that is a pretty shitty thing to have happen.

EDIT: Maybe this was in Canada?

It's still $30K USD. The normal Si with a nav system and some other options can go for $27K! 10% more cash for something that's probably a lot better to drive isn't totally ridiculous.

jayhawk · November 15th, 2007, 12:19 AM

Still, waaay too overpriced. This is going into BMW thinking, that you are buying it for the badge, and no current Civic can perform like the Si's and Type R's from the 1990's, those were just phenomenal. The current KA engines just do not have the soul of the B16A, and the suspension on the current Civic is just...ordinary, not amazing and revolutionary like the Civics of old.

It is kind of like comparing a Mark I Golf GTI vs. a current GTI, see what I mean?

bartboy9891 · November 15th, 2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

Still, waaay too overpriced. This is going into BMW thinking, that you are buying it for the badge, and no current Civic can perform like the Si's and Type R's from the 1990's, those were just phenomenal. The current KA engines just do not have the soul of the B16A, and the suspension on the current Civic is just...ordinary, not amazing and revolutionary like the Civics of old.

It is kind of like comparing a Mark I Golf GTI vs. a current GTI, see what I mean?

Yea you can spec a GTI out to over $30K, and that doesn't even get you leather seating!

Zuhaib · November 15th, 2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bartboy9891

Yea you can spec a GTI out to over $30K, and that doesn't even get you leather seating!

HuH... No, i got a GTI with Pk2 + 18in Rims for under 30k.

bartboy9891 · November 15th, 2007, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuhaib

HuH... No, i got a GTI with Pk2 + 18in Rims for under 30k.

I said "can", I didn't say the car started at 30K.

Shawn · November 15th, 2007, 12:45 AM

Well don't come to Canada, because a MkV GTI with DSG and leather is almost $37,000 here.

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Originally Posted by Zuhaib

HuH... No, i got a GTI with Pk2 + 18in Rims for under 30k.

andyhui01 · November 15th, 2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tigger

Ricers

. They left all the good stuff!

could you explain why is this car still a Ricer? Its completely stock from the dealer... there are engine mods and suspension mods to make it go faster around the track...

bartboy9891 · November 15th, 2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by andyhui01

could you explain why is this car still a Ricer? Its completely stock from the dealer... there are engine mods and suspension mods to make it go faster around the track...

I think he meant that the people who stole the parts were ricers.

I've been posting after nearly every response, I'm leaving my dorm now!

devil500 · November 15th, 2007, 01:04 AM

Poor car...

It's a limited edition car out of 300 so it has some value...Plus it is supposed to go around faster on a track...$30,000 for a special Civic dunno but it is rare..

Shawn · November 15th, 2007, 01:12 AM

You guys keep dwelling on the price... those pictures are in Canada. If an averagely-optioned GTI is $35 grand here, then a limited edition Civic Si with all those added things makes sense at $30 grand.

Still, I wouldn't buy it. images/smilies/lol.gif

jayhawk · November 15th, 2007, 01:23 AM

Hoooahhhh...got you all in check. I deserve to be slapped for even typing that. Anyhow:

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/hond...88/prices.html

andyhui01 · November 15th, 2007, 01:25 AM

^me too... but I understand why the parts were stolen. The Rims alone are worth about 2k I believe without tyres, the exhaust system was a about 1k, and the rest of the stuff like the seats, bodyparts... etc would have easily cost another 5k.

devil... I think there's going to be 1000 Mugen Civics, but they are still quite rare.

Hidden_Hunter · November 15th, 2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Man

So......why would someone spend that much on a civic?

Why do people buy fast trucks?

Redliner · November 15th, 2007, 02:53 AM

Expensive? Ha!
An Si goes for USD50k around here...base price. You guys don't know expensive.

Ottobon · November 15th, 2007, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bartboy9891

I said "can", I didn't say the car started at 30K.

yeah if you put TVs all over the interior images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

, I remember pricing up options on a GTi, they may not realistically sell for the sticker, but theres no real reason you need to make it a 30k car

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Originally Posted by Mopar Man

So......why would someone spend that much on a civic?

By your own reasoning, because it makes them happy

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Originally Posted by jayhawk

(1) It is kind of like comparing a Mark I Golf GTI vs. a current GTI, see what I mean?

(2)$30,000 for a CIVIC??? FOr that money you can buy a used EVO or STi, new Mustang GT and hava hell of a lot more fun.

Seriously, the only way I would pay that much money for a performance FWD car is on a MazdaSpeed 3.

Also, my annoyance with the price aside, that is a pretty shitty thing to have happen.

EDIT: Maybe this was in Canada?

(1) Not to be too defensive, but having ridden in both generations extensively, the current GTis balance of comfort and thrills atleast works, i think the MKIV GTi is a much much much much much better example. That car is honestly a soggy mess.

(2)STI? EVO?? More like a 90s NSX or Dodge Viper, 30k is a good sum of money!

Hidden_Hunter · November 15th, 2007, 05:02 AM

Also I personally think a mugen civic is going to hold its value even better than a golf (which already has excellent resale)

Necx0 · November 15th, 2007, 05:14 AM

If I was in the market for a fast daily/hatch etc.......a Civic of any kind would not be on the list. Although I would still drive it and it might blow my mind.

andyhui01 · November 15th, 2007, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hidden_Hunter

Also I personally think a mugen civic is going to hold its value even better than a golf (which already has excellent resale)

agreed... any car that has a limited production run would hold value well

I somehow have a feeling that all the negative stuff is just because its a Civic (Which for some reason, any car with a Civic badge is classified Rice), if this was done to a Mazdaspeed 2.3l 3 (not the MPS) or something like an Astra, you'll probably go ZOMG! WHY? It's such a great car

Ottobon · November 15th, 2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by andyhui01

if this was done to a Mazdaspeed 2.3l 3 ....... It's such a great car

has anybody read a single review on the Mazda 3 besides me images/smilies/wacko.gif

?

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol...icle824022.ece

If you don't listen to me at least try and listen to JC

November 15th, 2007, 12:19 AM	#22
jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:04 AM Location: A-Town, Illinois. Age: 33 Posts: 5,121 Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 92	Still, waaay too overpriced. This is going into BMW thinking, that you are buying it for the badge, and no current Civic can perform like the Si's and Type R's from the 1990's, those were just phenomenal. The current KA engines just do not have the soul of the B16A, and the suspension on the current Civic is just...ordinary, not amazing and revolutionary like the Civics of old. It is kind of like comparing a Mark I Golf GTI vs. a current GTI, see what I mean? __________________ It is nice to have friends like you on this forum. dawn patrol on hungry hate...the mouse police never sleeps.

November 15th, 2007, 01:23 AM	#31
jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:04 AM Location: A-Town, Illinois. Age: 33 Posts: 5,121 Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 92	Hoooahhhh...got you all in check. I deserve to be slapped for even typing that. Anyhow: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/hond...88/prices.html __________________ It is nice to have friends like you on this forum. dawn patrol on hungry hate...the mouse police never sleeps.

November 15th, 2007, 01:25 AM	#32
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: 10:12 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,515 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	^me too... but I understand why the parts were stolen. The Rims alone are worth about 2k I believe without tyres, the exhaust system was a about 1k, and the rest of the stuff like the seats, bodyparts... etc would have easily cost another 5k. devil... I think there's going to be 1000 Mugen Civics, but they are still quite rare. __________________

November 15th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#36
Hidden_Hunter D: Joined: Oct 7th, 2006 Last Online: 10:53 PM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 4,506 Car: '08 Honda Accord Euro Rep Power: 49	Also I personally think a mugen civic is going to hold its value even better than a golf (which already has excellent resale) __________________ My car is dark grey not black!

November 15th, 2007, 01:04 AM	#29
devil500 Joined: Aug 8th, 2007 Last Online: 10:58 PM Location: NYC Age: 16 Posts: 550 Car: Got teh permit, but MTA still going my way Rep Power: 8	Poor car... It's a limited edition car out of 300 so it has some value...Plus it is supposed to go around faster on a track...$30,000 for a special Civic dunno but it is rare..

November 15th, 2007, 01:12 AM	#30
Shawn Lexus? Oh shi- Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 12:45 PM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,801 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 93	You guys keep dwelling on the price... those pictures are in Canada. If an averagely-optioned GTI is $35 grand here, then a limited edition Civic Si with all those added things makes sense at $30 grand. Still, I wouldn't buy it.

November 15th, 2007, 02:53 AM	#34
Redliner Joined: May 19th, 2005 Last Online: 02:26 PM Location: Canoas, Brazil Age: 29 Posts: 3,573 Car: Fiat Palio 1.6 16v Rep Power: 40	Expensive? Ha! An Si goes for USD50k around here...base price. You guys don't know expensive.

November 15th, 2007, 05:14 AM	#37
Necx0 Joined: Jun 21st, 2007 Last Online: 08:55 AM Location: Hobart, Tasmania Age: 22 Posts: 1,875 Car: R31 Skyline, Charade rally car Rep Power: 17	If I was in the market for a fast daily/hatch etc.......a Civic of any kind would not be on the list. Although I would still drive it and it might blow my mind.