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| ^ will bore you to death | BMW: The Ultimate Cracking Machine
http://www.wcclaw.com/CM/Cases/BMW-Subframe.asp Quote:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html..._ID=TDR4675412 ![]() The Z3's are known to have this trouble as well.
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| Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 12:01 PM Location: Dallas, Texas USA Age: 32 Posts: 3,612
Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC Rep Power: 57 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Weren't you just advocating that someone should purchase an E36 in another thread?
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| Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 04:25 PM Location: Australia Posts: 1,929
Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Aren't you aware that this is just another one of those crackpot lawsuits some fat American idiot filled because he was bored. ( I'm saying this because my family owned a BMW 318i from 2001 to 2004 )
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| ^ will bore you to death | I only posted the lawsuit because it gave the best description. I hate class action lawsuits because the only people who benefit are the liars...err lawyers. Search it up, you'll get plenty of hits on various forums and mailing lists of people describing the problem, and even a lovely video that I fixed the link to. A friend of mine has had a 93 325 (one of the worst known for this problem) for a few years now and hasn't seen a problem, another guy I know has had more e36's in various trim that I can count without a problem. Quote:
![]() I'm a dick like that I've also advocated people buy a z06 and then posted about the free convertible top some owners get to their dismay.edit: I really need to learn to stick with my original posts rather than editing my posts 1500 times.
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| Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 12:01 PM Location: Dallas, Texas USA Age: 32 Posts: 3,612
Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC Rep Power: 57 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Quote:
I still want to know what idiot thought it was a good idea to locate the battery *inside the cabin* underneath the right rear passenger seat (powered adjustable seat, very heavy, surprisingly difficult to remove, not corrosionproofed underneath, easily eroded by hydrogen gas).
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| Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 04:25 PM Location: Australia Posts: 1,929
Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | It seems the problem is mostly associated with the E36 while not being as common in E46s.
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| my dads 318i E46 suffered from that pretty much as the dealer said it doesnt follow a patern, it just happens to them, E90 has been fixed so it not an isssue but late e36 and early e46 are the most common to have this problem after some attepted repairs we gave up on it, since the car creates a thumping noise from the rear when u brake or accelerate, we gave up on it and have now sold it for a subaru tribecca, pretty much bmw will not offically agree this is a problem and not fix it for free, in australia bmw australia pretty much claim its up to the dealer to deside wether it will be repaired, sadly our only bmw dealer said they wouldnt so we sold it long read | |
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It would be nice if BMW NA would own up to it and issue a recall. That would save me from having to pay for the Turner Racing kit install.
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| ^ will bore you to death | Quote:
It's also quite a big problem on the Z3's, and some E39's I think said have shown to have it.
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| Joined: Nov 23rd, 2006 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Location: Bloomington, IN - New York, NY Posts: 109
Car: S2000 Rep Power: 10 ![]() ![]() | Quote:
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| Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 04:25 PM Location: Australia Posts: 1,929
Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | @ Indiana Jones, thedguy and Deviate. I don't think BMW is going to issue a recall, after all they have stopped making E46s.
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| ^ will bore you to death | I didn't expect them to. They didn't with the E36, it would be way to costly. It is far cheaper to just act like there isn't a problem, and deal with the legal hassles later. Plus it'll prove that German Engineering ain't all it's cracked up to be, a reputation that VW and Mercedes have spent years trying to destroy, with surprising little luck.
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The main things that will stop them are the sheer volume of cars and the resources needed to complete the recall. We're talking about a LOT of cars to pull apart.
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| Joined: Dec 30th, 2006 Last Online: November 21st, 2008 Location: oregon Posts: 12
Car: E36 M3 Rep Power: 0 ![]() | This lawsuit is no joke. I sold my last car because I couldn't deal with the noises the subframe failure was making. The cracking was frightening when I finally got it on a lift and had a look. The poor car was excellent other than that, it was a real shame. |
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| Previously Known As CSL Joined: Dec 20th, 2006 Last Online: 04:25 PM Location: Australia Posts: 1,929
Car: Aston Martin DB9 (In GT4!) Rep Power: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | In that case all my previous comments from this thread are now void.
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| Joined: Dec 11th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 2,462
Car: '82 S10, '74 Yamaha, '74 Honda Rep Power: 28 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | What a shame. The old E36 and E46s seem like alot of fun, i'd hate to have to worry about my subframe falling apart on the road. I hate stupid law suits, but at least this one seems to have a point, even though there's probably no feasible way that BMW could recall all these cars for repair. |
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| Contrary to popular belief, reading John Grisham's King of Torts doesn't make you an expert on class action lawsuits.
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