BMW vrs Merc

Terrarist · December 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM

My dad just got an offer for a BMW diesel 5 series instead of the 2004 E-Class CDI 220. Good deal? If top gear is to be believed I think so.

IceBone · December 16th, 2007, 11:46 AM

Speedtouch · December 16th, 2007, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

audi

Definately. E-Class = Old person's car. 5-Series = too common. A6 = Just right.

Terrarist · December 16th, 2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedtouch

Definately. E-Class = Old person's car. 5-Series = too common. A6 = Just right.

M' dad's old. E-Class.

Lilleput · December 16th, 2007, 01:44 PM

Newer car in the same class? Go for it.

Dins · December 16th, 2007, 02:28 PM

well, what engine would the 5-series have?

MadCow809 · December 16th, 2007, 09:23 PM

if its the 535d then take the BMW.

but you cant go wrong with merc's diesel engine, but 220d is kind of weak, try go for a used 320d.

Speedtouch · December 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrarist

M' dad's old. E-Class.

No, no, no. I mean retired with plenty of grandchildren. Not just your odd 50yr old.

Alex_0700 · December 16th, 2007, 09:51 PM

Stereotypes aside, the current Merc and BM diesels in this class are lightyears ahead of the Audi. Sorry IceBone and Speedtouch, but I'm sticking with MadCow on this one images/smilies/wink.gif

IMO, Merc's smaller diesels are superior to BMW's, but if it's the 530d or 535d, however, MadCow's right, go for the 5er.

Ottobon · December 16th, 2007, 10:47 PM

The current merc is supposed to be good, but boring, wheras the 5 series is supposed to be even more interesting in standard trim, with the sacrifice of a little reliability (only if pushed hard on a track, so i've heard.)

On a interesting note i remember Jezza himself saying that he actually liked the Diesel E class more to the standard petrol E class (petrol one having the personality of drowning in wall paper paste or something)

Instead of banking on us i'd have you dad test drive them, if hes not smart enough to take a day of his time to decide how he actually wants to spend his hard earned cash then he can damn well live with the consequences of his actions.

Terrarist · December 17th, 2007, 12:05 PM

Problem's that I'll have to live with those consequences as well. And in anycase it seems that the 5 series is going out the window and now he's talking about an X5 (and driven one already - said he felt there was something wrong with the suspension). What ya'll think?

IceBone · December 17th, 2007, 05:51 PM

It's an SUV, that's what's wrong with the suspension. Just get an estate and close off an airport at night.

Ottobon · December 18th, 2007, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrarist

Problem's that I'll have to live with those consequences as well. And in anycase it seems that the 5 series is going out the window and now he's talking about an X5 (and driven one already - said he felt there was something wrong with the suspension). What ya'll think?

eveytime he mentions the X5 say something subliminally awful, clockwork orange him into hating the stupid truck, then make sure he gets a car of some sort. The E isn't bad, so long as its a diesel or a AMG and you don't choose grey paint with grey leather interior.

WannabeSS · December 18th, 2007, 04:49 AM

I dunno what to suggest.. my vote was gonna go to the 5series.

Samir · December 18th, 2007, 05:00 AM

If you like driving, BMW.

If you like plush luxury, Merc.

Homer_Bart · December 18th, 2007, 05:58 AM

E220 CDI is alright, if you don't mind too much excissive vibration and noise coming from the engine. I'm judging only from the E class taxis we have around here, so I'm talking reliability should be great.

Terrarist · December 21st, 2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by IceBone

It's an SUV, that's what's wrong with the suspension. Just get an estate and close off an airport at night.

And set airplanes on fire? images/smilies/tongue.gif

I like driving and forget why ma dad likes the Merc so much. His latest reason was "resale value". BMs are apparently hard so sell.

DTMracer · December 21st, 2007, 10:01 AM

I love both BMW and Merc even though I am a proud AMG owner. They're very different cars, and I love them both dearly.

janstett · December 21st, 2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedtouch

Definately. E-Class = Old person's car. 5-Series = too common. A6 = Just right.

FWD and no manual FTL!

inso · December 21st, 2007, 05:07 PM

BMW has new line of diesel engines, also the _has been_ slow 318D is new and ok at the moment.

if the room is not priority, 123D is quick diesel. If not, go for the 525D and up.

Audi diesels aren´t that bad neither, 240hp A5 3.0tdi is quite quick, I have driven one.

If it were my money spending, I would go for 320D touring M-sport. Sensible and quickish, also some fun to be had.

E-class is just too sensible shoes for my liking, at least if not 320cdi or up from there. 220cdi is sluggish.

December 16th, 2007, 10:15 AM	#1
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December 16th, 2007, 11:46 AM	#2
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December 16th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#9
Alex_0700 Joined: Mar 15th, 2005 Last Online: 05:13 PM Location: Bulgaria / Washington, DC Posts: 177 Car: BMW 530i Rep Power: 16	Stereotypes aside, the current Merc and BM diesels in this class are lightyears ahead of the Audi. Sorry IceBone and Speedtouch, but I'm sticking with MadCow on this one IMO, Merc's smaller diesels are superior to BMW's, but if it's the 530d or 535d, however, MadCow's right, go for the 5er. __________________

December 16th, 2007, 10:47 PM	#10
Ottobon Banned Joined: Nov 27th, 2005 Last Online: 05:58 AM Posts: 3,296 Car: Too many Rep Power: 0	The current merc is supposed to be good, but boring, wheras the 5 series is supposed to be even more interesting in standard trim, with the sacrifice of a little reliability (only if pushed hard on a track, so i've heard.) On a interesting note i remember Jezza himself saying that he actually liked the Diesel E class more to the standard petrol E class (petrol one having the personality of drowning in wall paper paste or something) Instead of banking on us i'd have you dad test drive them, if hes not smart enough to take a day of his time to decide how he actually wants to spend his hard earned cash then he can damn well live with the consequences of his actions.

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Terrarist Joined: Nov 1st, 2007 Last Online: 09:36 AM Location: C:\Africa\Ghana\Accra\... Age: 23 Posts: 59 Car: 1st generation Hyundai Elantra LFS Status: Rep Power: 6	Problem's that I'll have to live with those consequences as well. And in anycase it seems that the 5 series is going out the window and now he's talking about an X5 (and driven one already - said he felt there was something wrong with the suspension). What ya'll think? __________________ _____________________________________________

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IceBone Gulf Livery Rules Joined: Jan 14th, 2007 Last Online: 02:23 AM Location: Slovenistan Age: 24 Posts: 6,892 Car: Mitsubishi Carisma GDI Rep Power: 74	It's an SUV, that's what's wrong with the suspension. Just get an estate and close off an airport at night. __________________ The Mitsubishop of Natural Aspiraton

December 18th, 2007, 04:49 AM	#14
WannabeSS Banned Joined: Sep 3rd, 2007 Last Online: February 16th, 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Age: 17 Posts: 515 Car: 2003 Chevy Trailblazer LTZ Rep Power: 0	I dunno what to suggest.. my vote was gonna go to the 5series.

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Samir Joined: Aug 29th, 2006 Last Online: December 23rd, 2008 Posts: 372 Car: 2005 Honda Accord EX-L, 2002 Ford Mustang LX Rep Power: 10	If you like driving, BMW. If you like plush luxury, Merc.

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Homer_Bart Joined: Sep 10th, 2006 Last Online: 02:56 PM Location: Singapore Age: 15 Posts: 700 Car: 2-wheel Haro F1 Rep Power: 21	E220 CDI is alright, if you don't mind too much excissive vibration and noise coming from the engine. I'm judging only from the E class taxis we have around here, so I'm talking reliability should be great.

December 21st, 2007, 10:01 AM	#18
DTMracer Joined: Oct 6th, 2007 Last Online: 12:26 AM Posts: 1,307 Car: 1988 Mini Cooper, 1998 MB E55 AMG Rep Power: 10	I love both BMW and Merc even though I am a proud AMG owner. They're very different cars, and I love them both dearly.

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inso Joined: Jan 22nd, 2004 Last Online: January 4th, 2009 Posts: 205 Rep Power: 0	BMW has new line of diesel engines, also the _has been_ slow 318D is new and ok at the moment. if the room is not priority, 123D is quick diesel. If not, go for the 525D and up. Audi diesels aren´t that bad neither, 240hp A5 3.0tdi is quite quick, I have driven one. If it were my money spending, I would go for 320D touring M-sport. Sensible and quickish, also some fun to be had. E-class is just too sensible shoes for my liking, at least if not 320cdi or up from there. 220cdi is sluggish.

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