Bob Lutz and the Chevy Volt on Letterman

Mr. Nice · May 22nd, 2009, 12:16 AM

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC42THFLhAU[/YOUTUBE]

prizrak · May 22nd, 2009, 2:56 AM

At leas it looks like a real car....

MacGuffin · May 22nd, 2009, 9:47 AM

Well, let's see if they ever get to building it.

AiR · May 22nd, 2009, 12:39 PM

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hajj · May 22nd, 2009, 4:30 PM

Remind me again where they developed this car. Was it Detroit or Rüsselsheim?

CrazyRussian540 · May 22nd, 2009, 4:33 PM

I just realized that when (if) it does come out, all the celebrities will get one of these, and forget about the Prius.

chaos386 · May 22nd, 2009, 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AiR

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The video or the car? images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Rokovak · May 22nd, 2009, 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hajj

Remind me again where they developed this car. Was it Detroit or Rüsselsheim?

What relevance does this have to the topic?

hajj · May 22nd, 2009, 6:28 PM

Since they are trying to get rid of Opel currently, I guess it's quite relevant. Especially given that the word we is used quite often.

Rokovak · May 22nd, 2009, 8:56 PM

Well? Feel free to explain yourself whenever you feel up to it. I don't know what kind of dots you're trying to connect here, but what does Opel have to do with a separate Frankfurt-based battery supplier? Dumping Opel doesn't mean all batteries go away.

hajj · May 22nd, 2009, 8:58 PM

Sure but will Frank Weber go away or has he been transferred to GM? Because the car itself was a Opel development and most of the people behind it are/were german.

Rokovak · May 22nd, 2009, 9:09 PM

My understanding is that Weber is in charge of all E-flex systems for GM, so whether Opel stays or goes has no bearing on where his paycheck is coming from.

Sik02Stang · May 25th, 2009, 4:24 PM

Well, it will be out in late 2010 and in the showroom in early 2011 (if GM survives that long). i agree with the us goverment in asking " why is it taking GM 3-5 years to develop and sell something that is only taking everyone else 2 years to make?

BerserkerCatSplat · May 25th, 2009, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sik02Stang

i agree with the us goverment in asking " why is it taking GM 3-5 years to develop and sell something that is only taking everyone else 2 years to make?

Who else has brought a series-hybrid vehicle into production faster than GM? I was under the impression the Volt was the first of its kind.

chaos386 · May 25th, 2009, 9:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

Who else has brought a series-hybrid vehicle into production faster than GM? I was under the impression the Volt was the first of its kind.

I know they're nowhere near the same weight, but diesel locomotives first did the series-hybrid thing in 1986.

BerserkerCatSplat · May 25th, 2009, 9:07 PM

I'm fully aware that diesel locos are series units, we're obviously talking about cars here.

chaos386 · May 25th, 2009, 9:10 PM

Still, it's not like the technology is brand new, and the Volt isn't the only car GM's taken ages to develop while teasing us the whole way. I'd say the Camaro is a worse offender, actually.

Spectre · May 25th, 2009, 9:36 PM

The stupid thing about the Volt is that GM had a workable series hybrid way back in 1999!

The question now is, what is taking them so long to get the Volt out?

chaos386 · May 25th, 2009, 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

The stupid thing about the Volt is that GM had a workable series hybrid way back in 1999!

And with a turbine engine, of all things! images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Still, it can't have been very quiet...

Spectre · May 25th, 2009, 9:43 PM

Turbine engines can be surprisingly quiet - their noise depends on the shape of the fan blades. Certainly it's not that hard to get one down to the noise level of a modern diesel of equivalent output.

In addition, Chrysler had an even larger turbine fitted to a car back in the 60s and it was quiet compared to the petrol powered alternative, from all reports.

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hajj Joined: Mar 29th, 2005 Last Online: 1:27 AM Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,915 Rep Power: 26	Remind me again where they developed this car. Was it Detroit or Rüsselsheim? __________________ Global Warming isn't working - I am FREEZING!!

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CrazyRussian540 Joined: Mar 6th, 2005 Last Online: 6:57 AM Location: Shrewsbury, MA/Pittsburgh, PA Age: 20 Posts: 3,941 Car: Nothing anymore Rep Power: 234	I just realized that when (if) it does come out, all the celebrities will get one of these, and forget about the Prius. __________________

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hajj Joined: Mar 29th, 2005 Last Online: 1:27 AM Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,915 Rep Power: 26	Since they are trying to get rid of Opel currently, I guess it's quite relevant. Especially given that the word we is used quite often. __________________ Global Warming isn't working - I am FREEZING!!

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hajj Joined: Mar 29th, 2005 Last Online: 1:27 AM Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,915 Rep Power: 26	Sure but will Frank Weber go away or has he been transferred to GM? Because the car itself was a Opel development and most of the people behind it are/were german. __________________ Global Warming isn't working - I am FREEZING!!

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Rokovak Joined: Mar 16th, 2008 Last Online: March 16th, 2010 Location: 38°43'13.19"S, 77°31'47.87"E Posts: 669 Car: 2002 A4 Quattro Rep Power: 42	My understanding is that Weber is in charge of all E-flex systems for GM, so whether Opel stays or goes has no bearing on where his paycheck is coming from.

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Sik02Stang Joined: Oct 9th, 2008 Last Online: March 17th, 2010 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 459 Car: Thundercougarfalconbird Rep Power: 13	Well, it will be out in late 2010 and in the showroom in early 2011 (if GM survives that long). i agree with the us goverment in asking " why is it taking GM 3-5 years to develop and sell something that is only taking everyone else 2 years to make? __________________ ok, let me get this rite, Lewis, Jenson, Nico and now Schumi? HA! Lets race!

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chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: 2:28 AM Location: Al-Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 23 Posts: 4,795 Car: 2009 Seat Leon FR LFS Status: Rep Power: 191	Still, it's not like the technology is brand new, and the Volt isn't the only car GM's taken ages to develop while teasing us the whole way. I'd say the Camaro is a worse offender, actually. __________________ "Shit, that's a busy table cloth." -matt2000

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Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 5:07 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 33 Posts: 10,397 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 344	The stupid thing about the Volt is that GM had a workable series hybrid way back in 1999! The question now is, what is taking them so long to get the Volt out? __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

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Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 5:07 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 33 Posts: 10,397 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 344	Turbine engines can be surprisingly quiet - their noise depends on the shape of the fan blades. Certainly it's not that hard to get one down to the noise level of a modern diesel of equivalent output. In addition, Chrysler had an even larger turbine fitted to a car back in the 60s and it was quiet compared to the petrol powered alternative, from all reports. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike) Last edited by Spectre; May 25th, 2009 at 9:49 PM.

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