Burnout question

Thrasher · October 18th, 2005, 03:28 AM

this my sound like a dumb question but how, in a normal car, do you do a burnout.

What I mean is, how are the wheels able to keep spinning if you have to apply the brakes to prevent the car from moving? I know dragsters havea special system that only locks the front brakes to enable a burnout but normal cars have brakes on all four wheels.

Do do a burnout I figure you rev the engine then drop the clutch to get the wheels spinning. Then what? how are you even supposed to apply the brakes if your foot is on the gas?

Am I missing something?

BlaRo · October 18th, 2005, 03:35 AM

You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

With a front-drive car (which is much harder) the E-brake is used, so the rear wheels are locked in place while the front wheels pull and shred the tires. There might be more into it for an actually successful burnout, though. I've never tried it, but I should... images/smilies/shifty.gif

Also, this might help. Sure taught me something!

Mischief007 · October 18th, 2005, 03:59 AM

Basically what BlaRo said. I've never done one because I'm not a fan of burnouts.

Thrasher · October 18th, 2005, 04:03 AM

OOOOOOOH right. Now I get it. NOt that I'm going to try it anytime soon because I don't have my liscense or my own car (although I can get my liscnese anytime now) and I don't want to be breaking anything. That would not be good images/smilies/bangin.gif

Raven18940 · October 18th, 2005, 04:29 AM

Don't do a burn out without a LSD, it's a good way to blow an open diff to bits. images/smilies/wink.gif

stapler123 · October 18th, 2005, 06:09 AM

It's a good way to blow many things to bits. Though i find it easiest with a big ci v8 and a auto tranny, my truck did a pretty good burn out, in my stupid idiot erra.

Redliner · October 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

Didn´t you meant auto? I know the theory, but your description seemed somewhat confusing...in a manual you would have to press all 3 pedals at the same time, at least to get it started.

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With a front-drive car (which is much harder) the E-brake is used, so the rear wheels are locked in place while the front wheels pull and shred the tires. There might be more into it for an actually successful burnout, though. I've never tried it, but I should... images/smilies/shifty.gif

Also, this might help. Sure taught me something!

I would say it´s easier in a front wheel drive car. Lock parking brake, rev the engine, release clutch and watch your drivetrain suffer.

YipMing · October 18th, 2005, 12:42 PM

Think he missed the step.

Basically rev the bugger out of the car, drop the clutch, rear should start spinning. A bit of brake should stop the car from moving forward. Unless you have a locked diff, you usually end up with a dounut ...

Auto ... yea, full brake, get the torque convertor slipping as high as you can go and release brake. Might work, but manual is easier. Once again a bit of brake to stop the car from moving forward ...

FF ... same thing. But rather than brake, just yank on hand brake. Problem is FF with the diff and the smoking tyre up front, will heat up the engine quicker than a rear wheelers. Also a lot less impressive =P.

4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

The easiest thing to do a burn out in? Bikes, grip the front brake, lean forward, and smoke the rear.

SiR_dude · October 18th, 2005, 01:25 PM

I think the easiest to burn is an auto....press the brake firmly, then hit the gas...I tried it once or twice in my Dad's Sonoma...lit up one tire really easily. If you had an LSD, might not be as easy..

andyhui01 · October 18th, 2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by yipming

4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.

Cosworth · October 18th, 2005, 01:44 PM

How to doa donut

Let car roll at about 5mph, turn in, Clutch, Select First, 6000rpm, sidestep clutch and keep the power on ... images/smilies/vampire.gif

BlaRo · October 18th, 2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redliner

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything.

Didn´t you meant auto? I know the theory, but your description seemed somewhat confusing...in a manual you would have to press all 3 pedals at the same time, at least to get it started.

You hold down the clutch first, with your foot on the accelerator revving the engine up. The car's not going anywhere because your left foot is still on the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redliner

I would say it´s easier in a front wheel drive car. Lock parking brake, rev the engine, release clutch and watch your drivetrain suffer.

Now that I think about it... images/smilies/oops.gif

sandor_ · October 18th, 2005, 07:40 PM

RWD -
most cars brake systems are biased towards the front wheels (hence the reason the front wheels gather brake dust quicker than the rear) this means the first measure of brake fluid is diverted to only the front wheels. so by applying the right amount of pressure to the pedal, you can lock the front wheels, and allow full spin on the rear.
hold brake
first gear
hit gas
slip clutch
modulate break to keep car still

now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

Z3R0 117 · October 18th, 2005, 08:22 PM

I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)

Renesis · October 18th, 2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyhui01

Quote:

Originally Posted by yipming

4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.

that's called wheelspin, not a burnout... proof: he can't hold it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandor_

now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.

sandor_ · October 18th, 2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Renesis

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyhui01

Quote:

Originally Posted by yipming

4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean.

it depends what you call a burnout... my cousin's have done wheelspins on Subaru Impreza, Forester STI and the Mitsu. Galant VR4... with enough power, all of them managed to get have all 4 wheels spinning for about 1sec before taking off.

that's called wheelspin, not a burnout... proof: he can't hold it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandor_

now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.

i know. thats whats strange about it. but look at some audis and vw's. a number of them i see have caked on brake dust on the rear wheels and clean front wheels. i'll take photos the next time i see it...

patrick10 · October 19th, 2005, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Z3R0 117

I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)

yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig images/smilies/biggrin.gif

bihus · October 19th, 2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sandor_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renesis

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandor_

now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

No way, all cars have a front biased braking system, otherwise it would be way too dangerous.

i know. thats whats strange about it. but look at some audis and vw's. a number of them i see have caked on brake dust on the rear wheels and clean front wheels. i'll take photos the next time i see it...

Are you messing TT's front and rear? My previous and my actual Audi gets the front wheels dirty much much faster. And every other one I've seen.[/quote]

Z3R0 117 · October 19th, 2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3R0 117

I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)

yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig images/smilies/biggrin.gif

What A Waste Of a good 240SX......

Don't Make it go straght., Go Out Drifting Enjoy the RWD fun....

patrick10 · October 19th, 2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3R0 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z3R0 117

I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8)

yea but at the track if you dont clean off your tires by spining them, you will get shitty traction. i could ttell even with my 155 hp. plus i would rather get really sticky tires and grip like all hell.

haha i have a pic of my burnout at the track in my sig images/smilies/biggrin.gif

What A Waste Of a good 240SX......

Don't Make it go straght., Go Out Drifting Enjoy the RWD fun....

i dont drift or go straight images/smilies/wink.gif

drifting is a spectator sport. i would rather have proof of my skill than judgements.

also there is nothing wrong with dragging a 240. i believe there are a few 8 second silvias out there with stock irs

October 18th, 2005, 03:28 AM	#1
Thrasher Joined: May 13th, 2005 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Posts: 500 Rep Power: 0	Burnout question this my sound like a dumb question but how, in a normal car, do you do a burnout. What I mean is, how are the wheels able to keep spinning if you have to apply the brakes to prevent the car from moving? I know dragsters havea special system that only locks the front brakes to enable a burnout but normal cars have brakes on all four wheels. Do do a burnout I figure you rev the engine then drop the clutch to get the wheels spinning. Then what? how are you even supposed to apply the brakes if your foot is on the gas? Am I missing something?

October 18th, 2005, 03:35 AM	#2
BlaRo Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: MA Age: 21 Posts: 8,925 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 132	You apply the brakes with your left foot, rally racing style. The wheels are spinning because the car isn't in gear yet (manual tranny), so your foot isn't on the brake then. You press both the "loud pedal" and the brake at the same time with both feet, and adjust the pressure on both so you don't break anything. With a front-drive car (which is much harder) the E-brake is used, so the rear wheels are locked in place while the front wheels pull and shred the tires. There might be more into it for an actually successful burnout, though. I've never tried it, but I should... Also, this might help. Sure taught me something! __________________ When squids attack!

October 18th, 2005, 03:59 AM	#3
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: January 6th, 2009 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 4,393 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Basically what BlaRo said. I've never done one because I'm not a fan of burnouts. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 66,750 km - 41,477 miles

October 18th, 2005, 04:03 AM	#4
Thrasher Joined: May 13th, 2005 Last Online: December 29th, 2008 Posts: 500 Rep Power: 0	OOOOOOOH right. Now I get it. NOt that I'm going to try it anytime soon because I don't have my liscense or my own car (although I can get my liscnese anytime now) and I don't want to be breaking anything. That would not be good __________________ Nikon D100, Nikon AF 300f/4 EDIF, Sigma 18-55, Sb-80DX My Photo Gallery

October 18th, 2005, 04:29 AM	#5
Raven18940 Joined: Apr 16th, 2005 Last Online: February 19th, 2007 Location: PA, USA Posts: 633 Rep Power: 0	Don't do a burn out without a LSD, it's a good way to blow an open diff to bits. __________________ 2001 Saab 9-5 aero....don't laugh, it's fast.

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stapler123 Joined: Jan 13th, 2005 Last Online: May 5th, 2007 Location: Tucson, Az Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	It's a good way to blow many things to bits. Though i find it easiest with a big ci v8 and a auto tranny, my truck did a pretty good burn out, in my stupid idiot erra.

October 18th, 2005, 12:42 PM	#8
YipMing Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 13th, 2005 Location: Sydney, Oz Posts: 124 Rep Power: 0	Think he missed the step. Basically rev the bugger out of the car, drop the clutch, rear should start spinning. A bit of brake should stop the car from moving forward. Unless you have a locked diff, you usually end up with a dounut ... Auto ... yea, full brake, get the torque convertor slipping as high as you can go and release brake. Might work, but manual is easier. Once again a bit of brake to stop the car from moving forward ... FF ... same thing. But rather than brake, just yank on hand brake. Problem is FF with the diff and the smoking tyre up front, will heat up the engine quicker than a rear wheelers. Also a lot less impressive =P. 4WD/AWD. Pretty much impossible to burnout. Usually end up with tight donuts with the car spinning around quickly. Watch rally clips where Grohome, etc do a "burn out" to celebrate victory and you will get what I mean. The easiest thing to do a burn out in? Bikes, grip the front brake, lean forward, and smoke the rear.

October 18th, 2005, 01:25 PM	#9
SiR_dude Joined: Mar 5th, 2004 Last Online: December 12th, 2008 Location: Somewhere in rural Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,640 Car: 2000 Civic SiR Rep Power: 24	I think the easiest to burn is an auto....press the brake firmly, then hit the gas...I tried it once or twice in my Dad's Sonoma...lit up one tire really easily. If you had an LSD, might not be as easy..

October 18th, 2005, 01:44 PM	#11
Cosworth Joined: Mar 24th, 2005 Last Online: 12:02 AM Location: Waterford, Rep of Ireland Age: 22 Posts: 1,728 LFS Status: Rep Power: 27	How to doa donut Let car roll at about 5mph, turn in, Clutch, Select First, 6000rpm, sidestep clutch and keep the power on ... __________________ Catch My Drift? W:www.pmcgphotos.com Powered by Canon.

October 18th, 2005, 07:40 PM	#13
sandor_ Joined: Mar 16th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2007 Location: Philadelphia, USA Age: 28 Posts: 1,043 Car: 911, 328i, Golf, '71 Vespa Sprint Rep Power: 0	RWD - most cars brake systems are biased towards the front wheels (hence the reason the front wheels gather brake dust quicker than the rear) this means the first measure of brake fluid is diverted to only the front wheels. so by applying the right amount of pressure to the pedal, you can lock the front wheels, and allow full spin on the rear. hold brake first gear hit gas slip clutch modulate break to keep car still now i have noted on many audis and vw's the rear wheels get dirty quicker, and have heard it stated that those cars actually have a rear-biased braking system.... hmmm...

October 18th, 2005, 08:22 PM	#14
Z3R0 117 Joined: Sep 11th, 2005 Last Online: January 23rd, 2006 Location: Sideways Catch My DRIFT? Posts: 338 Rep Power: 0	I rather smoke my tires going sideways........... 8) __________________ GT-R Fan Copy And Paste This In TO Your Sig To Show That Your A GT-R Fan

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