Germans plan to ban smoking drivers

Overheat · May 4th, 2005, 6:08 PM

German MPs are proposing a ban on smoking whilst driving. A spokesman for the ruling Social Democrat party has said that "the dangers of causing an accident rise drastically when you smoke and drive. I want a complete ban on smoking for drivers." He was backed by representatives of the opposition Christian Democrats, who told the Bild newspaper that they would also push for legislation on the matter. MP Katherina Reiche said that "cigarettes are just as much a distraction as cell phones. We need a new law banning it (smoking), with fines." However, Germany's motoring club ADAC defended the right to smoke at the wheel, with spokesman Rainer Hillgaertner saying, somewhat surreally: "Eating chocolate bars, bananas or fish sandwiches whilst driving is also dangerous."

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/ne...?news_id=12199

Ultra_Kool_Dude · May 4th, 2005, 6:10 PM

1984...

Buba · May 4th, 2005, 6:19 PM

I guess, this will be off the table pretty soon...

Some loony always wants to do shit to drivers... Fuck the Greens!
They won't do it...

Buba

justin syder · May 4th, 2005, 6:31 PM

this is ridiculous. im not a smoker but this is a bit extreme.

why not get rid of radios or cup holders because using them while driving is a distraction. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

bihus · May 4th, 2005, 6:45 PM

Well, sometimes I think that smoking can be more dangerous than talking on the phone. Imagine you drop the cigarrette... And it has been proven that a car filled with smoke, besides reducing your vision, makes you sleepy.

swek · May 4th, 2005, 6:48 PM

I don't get why such news are making it to other countries. Some unimportant loony politician makes a proposal and suddenly it's a story ? Much like transport 2000, they demand the most ridiculous things but you'll never see any of it getting realized.

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Originally Posted by bihus

Well, sometimes I think that smoking can be more dangerous than talking on the phone. Imagine you drop the cigarrette... And it has been proven that a car filled with smoke, besides reducing your vision, makes you sleepy.

Sure, but what is your solution. Ban everything that poses a potential threat ?

Overheat · May 4th, 2005, 6:58 PM

Smoking should just be banned altogether images/smilies/biggrin.gif

swek · May 4th, 2005, 7:01 PM

Sure, and everything should be made of bubble wrap. images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

snq · May 4th, 2005, 7:15 PM

Heh the car is probably the place where I smoke the most.. I only drive long trips of at least an hour on pretty much empty roads and I get bored pretty quick images/smilies/smile.gif

I open up the window tho so sleepiness or reduced sight is not really an argument.. I have to agree tho if you drop the cigaret (happend to me once) it can be dangerous, not really for me but for ppl driving in tight traffic.

I think cellphones or eating are way more dangerous.. I mean you need 2 fingers for smoking and you can actually still use the rest of the hand for holding the wheel and doing anything else that might be needed.

So this is a ridiculous proposal.. I can imagine how happy the police would be if they are going to have to stop ppl that are smoking in their cars.. Like they got nothing better to do.. I can't imagine anyone would actually obey this law if it would come.

justin syder · May 4th, 2005, 7:17 PM

It is just easier to just blame someone else or a major company and not take personal responsibility for things nowadays.

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Jostyrostelli · May 4th, 2005, 7:29 PM

I think they banned calling with one hand on the steeringwheel because you think of the person on the phone and have to think about the road at the same time (and of course, one hadn on the steeringwheel...how you gonna change gears? with hands off of course..)

Don't think people 'think' that much when having a cigarette...

Xeon SX · May 4th, 2005, 7:42 PM

sorry all but I agree images/smilies/twisted.gif

chaos386 · May 4th, 2005, 8:00 PM

I don't like cigarettes, but I think it would be more dangerous to have jittery smokers rushing home to get a puff rather than to have them smoke in the car.

oliB · May 12th, 2005, 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Overheat

Smoking should just be banned altogether images/smilies/biggrin.gif

qube · May 13th, 2005, 2:10 PM

Shouldn't smoke in a car, what's the car done to deserve being covered in ash and burn marks. Also the yellowing interior is horrid.

No problem with smokers as long as they don't throw their tab ends out of the window 'cos that's disgusting! USE A BIN!!!

evoWALO · May 13th, 2005, 2:37 PM

I just wish they just ban smoking

jasonchiu · May 13th, 2005, 6:52 PM

yeah same, who the hell invented it lol. i jsut hate the smell so much man

May 4th, 2005, 6:08 PM	#1
Overheat Joined: Sep 7th, 2004 Last Online: September 30th, 2008 Location: Bradford, UK Posts: 5,735 Rep Power: 28	Germans plan to ban smoking drivers German MPs are proposing a ban on smoking whilst driving. A spokesman for the ruling Social Democrat party has said that "the dangers of causing an accident rise drastically when you smoke and drive. I want a complete ban on smoking for drivers." He was backed by representatives of the opposition Christian Democrats, who told the Bild newspaper that they would also push for legislation on the matter. MP Katherina Reiche said that "cigarettes are just as much a distraction as cell phones. We need a new law banning it (smoking), with fines." However, Germany's motoring club ADAC defended the right to smoke at the wheel, with spokesman Rainer Hillgaertner saying, somewhat surreally: "Eating chocolate bars, bananas or fish sandwiches whilst driving is also dangerous." http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/ne...?news_id=12199 __________________

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justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: August 18th, 2009 Location: New York, USA Age: 28 Posts: 4,098 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 34	this is ridiculous. im not a smoker but this is a bit extreme. why not get rid of radios or cup holders because using them while driving is a distraction. __________________ "I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered!" -William F. Buckley Jr. Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

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Overheat Joined: Sep 7th, 2004 Last Online: September 30th, 2008 Location: Bradford, UK Posts: 5,735 Rep Power: 28	Smoking should just be banned altogether __________________

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bihus Joined: Dec 7th, 2003 Last Online: December 18th, 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 4,618 Car: BMW 330Cd LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	Well, sometimes I think that smoking can be more dangerous than talking on the phone. Imagine you drop the cigarrette... And it has been proven that a car filled with smoke, besides reducing your vision, makes you sleepy.

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swek Ex-Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: 1:39 AM Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 27 Posts: 4,522 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 67	Sure, and everything should be made of bubble wrap.

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snq Joined: Dec 17th, 2004 Last Online: October 24th, 2009 Location: Sweden / About 50 km from the arctic circle Age: 31 Posts: 330 Car: 1966 Chevelle 454 Rep Power: 21	Heh the car is probably the place where I smoke the most.. I only drive long trips of at least an hour on pretty much empty roads and I get bored pretty quick I open up the window tho so sleepiness or reduced sight is not really an argument.. I have to agree tho if you drop the cigaret (happend to me once) it can be dangerous, not really for me but for ppl driving in tight traffic. I think cellphones or eating are way more dangerous.. I mean you need 2 fingers for smoking and you can actually still use the rest of the hand for holding the wheel and doing anything else that might be needed. So this is a ridiculous proposal.. I can imagine how happy the police would be if they are going to have to stop ppl that are smoking in their cars.. Like they got nothing better to do.. I can't imagine anyone would actually obey this law if it would come. __________________ Too many cars..

May 4th, 2005, 7:17 PM	#10
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: August 18th, 2009 Location: New York, USA Age: 28 Posts: 4,098 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 34	It is just easier to just blame someone else or a major company and not take personal responsibility for things nowadays. __________________ "I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered!" -William F. Buckley Jr. Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

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Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: April 25th, 2009 Posts: 8,062 Rep Power: 31	I think they banned calling with one hand on the steeringwheel because you think of the person on the phone and have to think about the road at the same time (and of course, one hadn on the steeringwheel...how you gonna change gears? with hands off of course..) Don't think people 'think' that much when having a cigarette... __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

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Xeon SX Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 12:08 AM Location: London Posts: 1,427 Rep Power: 22	sorry all but I agree

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qube Joined: Dec 9th, 2004 Last Online: October 9th, 2008 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 266 Rep Power: 0	Shouldn't smoke in a car, what's the car done to deserve being covered in ash and burn marks. Also the yellowing interior is horrid. No problem with smokers as long as they don't throw their tab ends out of the window 'cos that's disgusting! USE A BIN!!!

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evoWALO Joined: Nov 11th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Philippines / Naples, Florida Age: 29 Posts: 776 Rep Power: 27	I just wish they just ban smoking

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jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	yeah same, who the hell invented it lol. i jsut hate the smell so much man

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