GTI vs. Mini vs. WRX vs. RX8 vs. Mazdaspeed3

LeVeL · November 5th, 2009, 5:28 AM

Coming out of a discussion in Random Thoughts.

MkV VW GTI
Mini S
Impreza WRX ('02-'05, the 2.0L ones)
Mazda RX8
Mazdaspeed3 (first gen)

thevictor390 · November 5th, 2009, 5:29 AM

Poll missing. But I think my vote is obvious

In all seriousness the Saab needs to be on there, that sounded pretty cool. Otherwise I think the Impreza suits you the most.

katwalk · November 5th, 2009, 5:33 AM

GTI, because it is just like my car only less bad.

NooDle · November 5th, 2009, 10:58 AM

weird that you're comparing cars of different sizes/classes, but whatever.

Mini S if you want maximum fun
GTI if you want a car than can do everything
WRX if you want AWD fun

public · November 5th, 2009, 11:14 AM

A black GTI with black everything.

Polly · November 5th, 2009, 12:54 PM

GTI hands down.

prizrak · November 5th, 2009, 1:26 PM

These are way too different but I would take the WRX mostly because that's the one with most tuning/performance potential of them all.

LeVeL · November 5th, 2009, 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thevictor390

Poll missing. But I think my vote is obvious

In all seriousness the Saab needs to be on there, that sounded pretty cool. Otherwise I think the Impreza suits you the most.

Way to check the thread before I had time to make the poll

Also, the Saab is in no way better than the WRX, imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katwalk

GTI, because it is just like my car only less bad.

It really isn't anything like your car

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooDle

weird that you're comparing cars of different sizes/classes, but whatever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by prizrak

These are way too different

I feel like they are in the same class (RX8 stands out, yes). Three FWD hatches and an AWD sedan that's in the same price range.

Like I said in the other thread, the GTI's lack of an LSD is a major turn-off for me

prizrak · November 5th, 2009, 3:25 PM

^I think they are too different because they have a very different way of making and putting the power down. Also there is quite a bit of a difference in weight. Also it's not too obvious what you are trying to compare. If we are talking about an all around car AWD sedan is probably the best choice of all the ones you put in there. If you want the funnest car I would say RX-8 since as you know from the other thread RWD PWNS ALL!!!!!11111one

LeVeL · November 5th, 2009, 3:35 PM

haha This would be a daily driver. Chores will also include quite a bit of winter driving (I go skiing a lot and I like to drive around during storms... if I can), good amount of autocross, etc. Car should be quick and nimble. An RX8 would be great but it has no torque

and I like torque

thevictor390 · November 5th, 2009, 3:45 PM

RX-8 only has a bit less torque than a Mini Cooper S and a lot more power. Similar weight and probably more spacious rear seats, albeit less cargo space.

argatoga · November 5th, 2009, 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeVeL

Way to check the thread before I had time to make the poll

Also, the Saab is in no way better than the WRX, imo.

The interior (and arguably the exterior) are better. Otherwise the only difference is that the SAAB is cheaper and has a couple STi bits on it.

The_Finn · November 5th, 2009, 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NooDle

weird that you're comparing cars of different sizes/classes, but whatever.

Mini S if you want maximum fun
GTI if you want a car than can do everything
WRX if you want AWD fun

what NooDle said only in my opinion replace MS3 with GTi

jayhawk · November 5th, 2009, 4:13 PM

If you have to deal with winter driving, and have a car that hauls ass, it is a WRX.

prizrak · November 5th, 2009, 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeVeL

haha This would be a daily driver. Chores will also include quite a bit of winter driving (I go skiing a lot and I like to drive around during storms... if I can), good amount of autocross, etc. Car should be quick and nimble. An RX8 would be great but it has no torque

and I like torque

If you like torque I would suggest something with forced induction not only do you get better/flatter torque curve but you can also increase power/torque fairly easily with a simple chip in most cases. Especially true for the GTI and WRX.

LeVeL · November 5th, 2009, 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thevictor390

RX-8 only has a bit less torque than a Mini Cooper S and a lot more power. Similar weight and probably more spacious rear seats, albeit less cargo space.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Mini comes in at around 2700lbs and the RX8 just under 3100. That's a big difference.

thevictor390 · November 5th, 2009, 4:38 PM

Sorry, the weight numbers I got were for the convertible, which is a good 150 pounds heavier.

deltableh · November 5th, 2009, 5:01 PM

If you want the WRX, be careful. Second gear on those 5-speeds sometimes are a tad bit weak.

LeVeL · November 5th, 2009, 5:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltableh

If you want the WRX, be careful. ~~Second gear~~ The entire gearbox on those 5-speeds sometimes are a tad bit weak.

FTFY.

That is actually not a big concern for me as I would not modify it that much. The most I would ever do would be stage 2 (~220whp). I've seen plenty of Subaru motors and transmissions disintegrate past 300whp, so I think I'd be fine with 220.
Maybe I'd just throw an exhaust on it and get a tune with a 2psi boost bump.

SpitfireMK461 · November 5th, 2009, 5:23 PM

Can't you get the WRX with six speed now?

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GTI	41	28.28%
Mini	10	6.90%
WRX	49	33.79%
RX8	32	22.07%
Mazdaspeed3	13	8.97%
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November 5th, 2009, 5:28 AM	#1
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November 5th, 2009, 5:33 AM	#3
katwalk Not A Dude Joined: Apr 1st, 2008 Last Online: 2:20 PM Location: Massastupid Age: 20 Posts: 3,774 Car: 2003 volkswagen beetle Cabriolet Rep Power: 166	GTI, because it is just like my car only less bad. __________________ Warning: user may make lewd comments about your penis. Please excuse the estrogen overdose and have a bear.

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public Joined: Nov 26th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Age: 25 Posts: 2,408 Car: 1991 Mazda 323F Rep Power: 128	A black GTI with black everything. __________________ "-I just spotted a copper Micra from 1984 with 44 000 km. I kinda want." "-Between this and the twisted love for old awful French cars you now have officially the weirdest taste in cars. Ever."

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Polly wants a cracker Joined: Dec 9th, 2006 Last Online: 4:17 PM Location: Your Mom. Posts: 2,350 Car: Yes. Because of Parkinsons. Rep Power: 160	GTI hands down. __________________ More is Better. We are here to get accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers.

November 5th, 2009, 5:29 AM	#2
thevictor390 Joined: Mar 9th, 2007 Last Online: 4:02 PM Location: Massachusetts Age: 19 Posts: 1,999 Car: 2006 RX-8 Rep Power: 65	Poll missing. But I think my vote is obvious In all seriousness the Saab needs to be on there, that sounded pretty cool. Otherwise I think the Impreza suits you the most.

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prizrak Joined: Apr 2nd, 2007 Last Online: 2:10 PM Location: Brooklyn, NY Age: 26 Posts: 3,025 Car: Audi A4 1.8T Rep Power: 39	These are way too different but I would take the WRX mostly because that's the one with most tuning/performance potential of them all.

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prizrak Joined: Apr 2nd, 2007 Last Online: 2:10 PM Location: Brooklyn, NY Age: 26 Posts: 3,025 Car: Audi A4 1.8T Rep Power: 39	^I think they are too different because they have a very different way of making and putting the power down. Also there is quite a bit of a difference in weight. Also it's not too obvious what you are trying to compare. If we are talking about an all around car AWD sedan is probably the best choice of all the ones you put in there. If you want the funnest car I would say RX-8 since as you know from the other thread RWD PWNS ALL!!!!!11111one

November 5th, 2009, 3:35 PM	#10
LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 4:54 PM Location: MA Age: 21 Posts: 2,976 Car: CG5/F23A1 Rep Power: 100	haha This would be a daily driver. Chores will also include quite a bit of winter driving (I go skiing a lot and I like to drive around during storms... if I can), good amount of autocross, etc. Car should be quick and nimble. An RX8 would be great but it has no torque and I like torque __________________ ^Don't worry he's a closet ~~homosexual~~ Miata driver. - Twerp128 flickr . . . photography + UMass Motorsport

November 5th, 2009, 3:45 PM	#11
thevictor390 Joined: Mar 9th, 2007 Last Online: 4:02 PM Location: Massachusetts Age: 19 Posts: 1,999 Car: 2006 RX-8 Rep Power: 65	RX-8 only has a bit less torque than a Mini Cooper S and a lot more power. Similar weight and probably more spacious rear seats, albeit less cargo space.

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jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 4:53 PM Location: Aurora, IL. Age: 34 Posts: 6,481 Car: 07 Subaru WRX, 09 VW Tiguan. Rep Power: 234	If you have to deal with winter driving, and have a car that hauls ass, it is a WRX. __________________ Instead of attending the circus, I visit Autoblog to see the clowns comment instead.

November 5th, 2009, 4:38 PM	#17
thevictor390 Joined: Mar 9th, 2007 Last Online: 4:02 PM Location: Massachusetts Age: 19 Posts: 1,999 Car: 2006 RX-8 Rep Power: 65	Sorry, the weight numbers I got were for the convertible, which is a good 150 pounds heavier.

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deltableh Joined: Nov 5th, 2007 Last Online: 6:10 AM Age: 23 Posts: 255 Car: 2008 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-door Rep Power: 18	If you want the WRX, be careful. Second gear on those 5-speeds sometimes are a tad bit weak. __________________ Some say, his brain actually runs OSX, and that he daylights as an accountant... all we know is he's not The Stig, he's The Stig's autocrossing cousin, Blue Stig!

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