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    Images and info about all GM engines currently used in US

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    ECOTEC 2.0L Supercharged


    Displacement: 1998cc

    Assembly Site: Kaiserslautern, Germany

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower: 205 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 200 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

    Applications: Saturn Ion Red Line, Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged

    Features: High-Pressure fuel pump
    Platinum spark plugs

    ECOTEC 2.0L Turbocharged


    Displacement: 1998cc

    Assembly Site: Spring Hill, Tennessee

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower: 260

    Torque: 260 lb.-ft.

    Applications: Pontiac Solstice GXP,
    Saturn Sky Redline, Opel GT

    Features: Direct-Injection

    ECOTEC 2.2L (L61/L42)


    Displacement: 2189cc

    Assembly Site: Spring Hill, Tennessee

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    145 @ 5600 rpm (ION)
    149 @ 5600 rpm (HHR, Vue)
    144 @ 5600 rpm (Malibu)
    145 @ 5600 rpm (Cobalt)

    Torque:
    150 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm (ION)
    152 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm (Vue, HHR)
    155 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm (Cobalt,
    Malibu)

    Features: Electronic Throttle Control

    ECOTEC 2.4L (LE5)

    Displacement: 2384cc

    Assembly Site: Spring Hill, Tennessee

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshafts (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower/Applications:
    167 @ 6300 (G6)
    175 @ 6200 (ION, HHR)
    171 @ 6200 (Cobalt)
    177 @ 6600 (Solstice, Sky)

    Torque: 162 lb-ft @ 4500 (G6)
    164 lb-ft @ 5000 (ION, HHR)
    163 lb-ft @ 5000 (Cobalt)
    166 lb-ft @ 4800 (Solstice, Sky)

    Features: Variable Valve Timing
    Electronic Throttle Control

    2800 2.8L V6 (LP1)


    Displacement: 2792cc

    Assembly Site: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 210 @ 6500 rpm

    Torque: 195 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm

    Applications: Cadillac CTS

    Features: Continuously variable cam

    2800 2.8L V6 Turbocharged


    Displacement: 2792cc

    Assembly Site: Australia (by Holden)

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 250 @ 5500 rpm

    Torque: 258 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

    Applications: Saab 9³ Aero

    Features: Variable Valve Timing
    Twin-Scroll turbocharger

    3500 3.5L V6 (LX9)


    UPDATE: Engine being dropped for 2007
    Displacement: 3498cc

    Assembly Site: Ramos Arizpe, Mexico

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 201 @ 560 rpm

    Torque: 220 @ 4400 rpm

    Applications: Buick Terraza, Chevrolet Malibu/Maxx, Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac G6, Pontiac SV6, Saturn Relay

    3500 3.5L V6 (LZ4)


    Displacement: 3510cc

    Assembly Site: Ramos Arizpe, Mexico

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 224 @ 5800 rpm*

    Torque: 220 @ 4000 rpm*

    Applications: Chevrolet Impala, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Saturn Aura, Pontiac G6

    Features: Variable Valve Timing
    U Flow Cooling, E85 Capable
    *For 2007

    3600 3.6L V6 (LY7)


    Displacement: 3564cc

    Assembly Site: St. Catharines, Ontario

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    240 @ 6000 rpm (LaCrosse)
    242 @ 6000 rpm (Rendezvous)
    255 @ 6200 rpm (CTS)
    255 @ 6500 rpm (STS, SRX)

    Torque:
    232 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm (Rendezvous)
    252 lb-ft @ 3100 rpm (CTS)
    252 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm (STS)
    254 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm (SRX)

    Features: Continuously variable cam

    3600 3.6L V6 (LY7 FWD)


    Displacement: 3564cc

    Assembly Site: St. Catharines, Ontario

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower/Applications:
    252 HP @ 6300 rpm (Aura XR, G6 GTP)
    265 HP @ 6600 rpm (Outlook XE)
    267 HP @ 6600 rpm (Outlook XR)
    240 @ 6000 rpm (LaCrosse)
    Torque:
    252 lb.-ft. @ 3200 rpm (Aura XR, G6 GTP)
    244 lb.-ft. @ 3200 rpm (Outlook XE)
    247 lb.-ft. @ 3200 rpm (Outlook XR)
    225 lb-ft @ 2000 rpm (LaCrosse)

    Features: Variable Valve Timing

    3800 Series III 3.8L V6


    Displacement: 3791cc

    Assembly Site: Flint, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    197 @ 5200 rpm (Lucerne)
    200 @ 5200 rpm (Grand Prix, LaCrosse)

    Torque: 227 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm (Lucerne)
    230 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm (Grand Prix, LaCrosse)

    Features: Oil Level Switch

    3800 3.8L V6 Supercharged

    Displacement: 3791cc

    Assembly Site: Flint, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower: 260 hp @ 5200-5400 rpm

    Torque: 280 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm

    Applications: Pontiac Grand Prix

    Features: Eaton Supercharger

    3900 3.9L V6 (LZ9/LGD)


    UPDATE: 2007 LZ8 Version will have Active Fuel Management
    Displacement: 3880cc

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Application:
    227 @ 6000 rpm (G6 Convertible)
    240 @ 6000 rpm (G6, Malibu SS, SV6, Uplander, Relay, Terraza)
    242 @ 6000 rpm (Impala, Monte Carlo)

    Torque:
    235 lb-ft @ 3000 (G6 Convertible)
    240 lb-ft @ 4600 (G6, Malibu SS)
    240 lb-ft @ 4800 (SV6, Uplander, Relay, Terraza)
    242 lb-ft @ 4800 (Impala, Monte Carlo)

    Features: Dual Variable Valve Timing
    Roller Rocker Arms
    E85 Ethanol Capable (LGD only)

    Northstar 4.4L V-8 Supercharged


    Displacement: 4371cc

    Assembly Site: Wixom, Michigan

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Cam (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower/Applications:
    469 @ 6400 rpm (STS-V)
    443 @ 6400 rpm (XLR-V)

    Torque:
    439 lb-ft @ 3900 rpm (STS-V)
    414 lb-ft @ 3900 (XLR-V)

    Features: 90% peak torque between
    2200 & 6000 rpm
    Piston oil spray cooling

    Northstar 4.6L V-8 (L37/LD8)


    Displacement: 4565cc

    Assembly Site: Livonia, Michigan

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshafts (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    275 @ 6000 rpm (DTS, Lucerne)
    292 @ 6300 rpm (DTS)

    Torque: 288 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm (DTS)
    295 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm (Lucerne,
    DTS)

    Features: Electronic Throttle Control

    Northstar 4.6L V-8 (LH2)


    Displacement: 4565cc

    Assembly Site: Livonia, Michigan

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshafts (4 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower: 320 @ 6400 rpm

    Torque: 310 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
    315 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

    Applications: Cadillac: SRX, STS, XLR

    Features: Variable Valve Timing
    Electronic Throttle

    5300 5.3L V8 (LS4)


    Displacement: 5328cc

    Assembly Site: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder)
    Horsepower: 303 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 323 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

    Applications: Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, Chevrolet; Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS.

    Features: Active Fuel Management

    6000 6.0L V8 (LS2)


    Displacement: 5970cc

    Assembly Site: St. Catharines, Ontario

    Configuration: Overhead Valves 2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    390 @ 6000 rpm (Trailblazer SS,
    SSR)
    400 @ 6000 rpm (GTO,
    Corvette, CTS-V)

    Torque: 395 lb-ft @ 4400 (CTS-V)
    400 lb-ft @ 4400 (Corvette, GTO)

    7000 7.0L V8 (LS7)


    Displacement: 7008cc (427.6ci)

    Assembly Site: Wixom, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valve (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 505 HP @ 6300 rpm

    Torque: 470 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

    Applications: Corvette ZO6

    Features: Dry-Sump Cooling System
    Titanium connecting rods
    Ti Intake Valve

    Truck Engines


    Vortec 2800 2.8L I-4 (LK5)


    Displacement: 2770cc

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 175 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 185 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Colorado
    GMC Canyon

    Features: Variable Exhaust Valve Timing

    Vortec 2900 2.9L I-4 (LLV)

    Displacement: TBA

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 185 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 195 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Colorado
    GMC Canyon

    Features: Variable Exhaust Valve Timing

    3400 3.4L V-6 (LNJ)


    Displacement: 3350cc

    Assembly Site: China

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 185 @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 210 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Equinox, Pontiac Torrent

    Features: EOLM System

    Vortec 3500 3.5L I-5 (L52)


    2007 Models Only
    Displacement: 3460cc

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 220 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 225 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Colorado,
    GMC Canyon, Hummer H3

    Features: Variable Exhaust Valve Timing

    Honda 3500 3.5L V6 (L66)


    Displacement: 3471cc

    Assembly Site: Unknown

    Configuration: single overhead camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 250 @ 5800 rpm

    Torque: 242 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm

    Applications: Saturn Vue

    Features: Variable Valve Timing

    Vortec 3700 3.7L I-5 (LLR)

    Displacement: TBA

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 242 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 242 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Colorado;
    GMC Canyon; Hummer H3

    Features: Variable Exhaust Valve Timing

    Vortec 4200 4.2L I-6 (LL8)


    Displacement: 4160cc

    Assembly Site: Flint, Michigan

    Configuration: Dual Overhead Camshaft (4 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 291 @ 6000 rpm

    Torque: 277 lb-ft @ 4800

    Applications: Buick Rainier, Chevrolet Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, Saab 9-7x

    Features: Variable Exhaust Valve Timing

    Vortec 4300 4.3L V6 (LU3)

    Displacement: 4300cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 195 @ 4600 rpm

    Torque: 260 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Silverado, Express; GMC Savanna

    Features: Roller Rocker Arms
    Hex Chrome free coatings
    Regulated Voltage Control

    Vortec 4800 4.8L V8 (LR4)


    Displacement: 4807cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 290 @ 5600 rpm

    Torque: 295 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Silverado, Express; GMC Sierra, Savanna

    Features: Electronic Throttle Control

    Vortec 5.3L V8 (L59)


    Displacement: 5328cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, MI

    Configuration: overhead valves (2 valves per cylinder)

    Horsepower: 295 HP @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 335 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Express; GMC Savanna

    Features: E85 Ethanol Capable

    Vortec 5.3L V8 (LH6)


    Displacement: 5328cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, MI

    Configuration: overhead valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 300 @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 330 lb-ft @ 40000 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Trailblazer, GMC Envoy, Buick Rainier, Isuzu Ascender, Saab 9-7x

    Features: Active Fuel Management

    Vortec 5300 5.3L V8 (LY5)


    Displacement: 5328cc

    Assembly Site: Silao, Mexico

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 320 @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 335 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Avalanche, Tahoe, Suburban, Silverado; GMC Yukon, Yukon XL, Sierra

    Features: E85 Ethanol Capable
    Electronic Throttle Control
    Active Fuel Manage

    Vortec 6000 6.0L V8 (LY6)


    Displacement: 5967cc

    Assembly Site: Silao, Mexico

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 350 @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 365 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

    Applications: GMC Sierra; Chevrolet Silverado

    Vortec 6000 6.0L V8 (L76)


    Displacement: 5967cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 355 @ 5200 rpm

    Torque: 380 lb-ft @ 4000

    Applications: Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Suburban, GMC Yukon XL

    Features: Active Fuel Management
    Variable Valve Timing

    *2007 Specs

    Vortec 6200 6.2L V8 (L92)


    Displacement: 6162cc

    Assembly Site: Romulus, Michigan

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower/Applications:
    403 @ 5700 rpm (Escalade, EXT, ESV)
    380 @ 5700 rpm (Yukon/XL Denali)

    Torque: 417 lb-ft torque @ 4300 rpm (Escalade, Yukon)
    415 lb-ft @4300 rpm (ESV, EXT)

    Features: Variable Valve Timing

    Duramax 6600 6.6L V8 Turbo Diesel


    Displacement: 6599cc

    Assembly Site: Moraine, Ohio

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 250-360 @ 2750-3000 rpm

    Torque: 460-650 lb-ft @ 1600-1800

    Applications: Chevrolet Silverado, Kodiak; GMC Sierra, Topkick; Hummer H1 Alpha

    Vortec 8100 8.1L V8 (L18)


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    Displacement: 8128cc

    Assembly Site: Tonawanda, New York

    Configuration: Overhead Valves (2 valves per cylinder).

    Horsepower: 225-330 @ 3600-4200 rpm

    Torque: 350-450 lb-ft @ 1200-3200 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Silverado
    GMC TopKick/Kodiak/Sierra


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    So many engines and so many possible combinations. How about the 8.1 in a Silverado 1500?
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    Aww...my favorite crate engine isn't on there! Then again the ZZ572/720R isn't exactly a production engine...
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    They have way too many engines. They could easily cut that number in half.
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    but, why? most of the engines are just different configurations of the same parts. There is a lot of parts sharing going on, which cuts costs.

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    Why all this trouble? Just put the LS7 in every car.
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    I want to see the 8.1 liter big block put into the next Camaro or the Vette.
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    head and in my hands the new Koran I would
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    "More than 60,000 Germans fell, not beneath the
    Roman arms and weapons, but, grander far,
    before our delighted eyes. May the tribes, I pray,
    ever retain if not love for us, at least hatred for
    each other; for while the destinies of empire bear
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    than discord among our foes." - Germania, Tacitus

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    ^ Please tell me you're kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FATMOUSE
    Why all this trouble? Just put the LS7 in every car.
    "in related news, sales of GM vehicles have skyrocketed, industry analysts are baffled..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkidori
    Quote Originally Posted by FATMOUSE
    Why all this trouble? Just put the LS7 in every car.
    "in related news, sales of GM vehicles have skyrocketed, industry analysts are baffled..."
    "industry analysts have finally come to the conclusion that it is the extensive use of plastic in the interiors that should be credited"

    the LX9, doesnt really seem to have any use, the next higher 3.6 should just take its spot
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    Quote Originally Posted by FATMOUSE
    ^ Please tell me you're kidding.
    Nope, it would be sweet. Would be like the 60s all over again.
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    "More than 60,000 Germans fell, not beneath the
    Roman arms and weapons, but, grander far,
    before our delighted eyes. May the tribes, I pray,
    ever retain if not love for us, at least hatred for
    each other; for while the destinies of empire bear
    hard upon us, fortune can give no greater boon
    than discord among our foes." - Germania, Tacitus

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    What, everyone drove trucks in the 60's?

    EDIT:

    Vortec 8100 8.1L V8 (L18)
    Horsepower: 225-330 @ 3600-4200 rpm

    Torque: 350-450 lb-ft @ 1200-3200 rpm

    Applications: Chevrolet Silverado
    GMC TopKick/Kodiak/Sierra

    The problem is, nice low end torque, but not nearly enough power. Also, look at the peak horsepower. Its comes at 4200 rpm tops, the redline on that things gotta be 5000 tops. Now why would you want that in a sports car?

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    Well of course they would have to work over the engine a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FATMOUSE
    Why all this trouble? Just put the LS7 in every car.
    Finally, someone who knows how to put GM back up on top.

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    Weak American Coffee

    I thought they stopped making Engines in FLint, Michigan, atleast according to Michael Moore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IVIaster
    Weak American Coffee

    I thought they stopped making Engines in FLint, Michigan, atleast according to Michael Moore.
    Bah, you shouldn't listen to Michael Moron. After all, he was the one who bombed Team America's headquarters!


    For those of you interested in what crate engines you can order through GM Goodwrench/GM Performance Parts, here's the link:

    http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpart...=9274#12496769

    Also, some stats for the engine I want in my next GM car:

    Engine: ZZ572/720R
    HP: 720 @ 6250 RPM
    Torque: 685 @ 4500 RPM
    Max Recommended RPM: 6750 RPM
    Compresion Ratio: 12:1
    Displacement: 572 CI or 9373 cc
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    Why would you want an 8liter engine when a 7liter engine can easily put down more power than the average person can handle, with decent fuel economy? I'm sure more HP can be squeezed from the 7 liter, too.

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    Seriously though:

    RWD Platform cars should get LS1/LS2 and the standard Vette or maybe GTO Suspension and chassis

    FWD Cars should get the NA/forced induction Ecotecs (depending on relative sportiness), and maybe the Cobalt SS suspension and chassis.

    RWD Super Cars (sportscars like the GTO and the Vette) should get the LS7 and Z06/Z51 suspension and chassis.

    Then, the differences would be that less sporty, more comfortable cars could get suspension variations aboved tweaked for ride comfort and engines tweaked for smoothness rather than performance.

    More sporty cars would get suspensions tweaked for cornering, engines tuned or force-induced for more power, etc.

    So two families of engines/suspensions, and cars that I would actually want to buy.

    Bear in mind that I'm no car designer, this is an oversimplified view, and it is really more complex than that, this is just what is going through my head when I see this godforsakenly large list of engines where the majority seem useless. Also bear in mind that I'm not talking about trucks/SUV's, just cars.

    And finally, bear in mind that I'm probably totally wrong.

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    What's baffling me at the moment is the LL8, the 4.2 Straight 6 with DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, and varaible valve timing. This truck engine is more advanced than most of their car engines! And GM has been telling us for years that 4 valves per cylinders aren't better.

    I think they should build a cut price corvette around this engine, and go knock the teeth out of the 350Z and s2000.
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    The Straight 5 and 6 are interesting engines. Would be even more interesting of they were used in a car.
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    Sadly my 2.4L Twin Cam and Cavalier both got ditched for those Eco's!! But hey, I like the 2.0 S/C Ecotec, hell I lived in Kaiserslautern for 7 years and saw the factory every day! And man, the Northstar in our 2000 Cadillac SLS and it produces more then the current Northstar! (LD8 of course)

    Some forwards, some backwards I guess. But they sure have alot of engines to throw around.
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