Motorcyclist Killed by Lightning

zenkidori · June 22nd, 2006, 7:11 AM

clicky

Viper007Bond · June 22nd, 2006, 8:51 AM

Please shorten long links. I've fixed it for you. images/smilies/smile.gif

Anyway, damn. Being the tallest thing around by like 5 feet has gotta suck.

fbc · June 22nd, 2006, 11:09 AM

Daaamn, now that's some bad luck.

YF19pilot · June 22nd, 2006, 2:18 PM

He should've played the lotto instead...

jetsetter · June 22nd, 2006, 3:04 PM

And here I was thinking you were talking about the Ford truck.

Redliner · June 22nd, 2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

And here I was thinking thinking you were talking about the Ford truck.

I was thinking the exact same thing! images/smilies/lol.gif

ishigakisensei · June 23rd, 2006, 2:32 AM

Well, he was on a bike after all. Talk about - ride the lightning!

gtrietsc · June 23rd, 2006, 2:39 AM

Well, when you capitalize Lightning, it can become a proper noun, so thats why the confusion. If you had said hit by 'lightning' instead of 'Lightning', maybe different?

Raven18940 · June 23rd, 2006, 3:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

And here I was thinking thinking you were talking about the Ford truck.

Yeah, i was expecting a tasteless video of a guy getting hit by a truck.

Damn though, one more reason not to ride a bike. images/smilies/eek.gif

bone · June 23rd, 2006, 6:12 PM

i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

zenkidori · June 23rd, 2006, 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gtrietsc

Well, when you capitalize Lightning, it can become a proper noun, so thats why the confusion. If you had said hit by 'lightning' instead of 'Lightning', maybe different?

It's a title, so lightning gets caps.

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i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

rubber has NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER with being protected from lighting. The reason that car occupants are safe is because the car is a faraday cage. The rubber tires thing is a myth, and has nothing to do with anything, and is also incidently the reason I can't watch CSI anymore.

bone · June 23rd, 2006, 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

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i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

rubber has NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER with being protected from lighting. The reason that car occupants are safe is because the car is a faraday cage. The rubber tires thing is a myth, and has nothing to do with anything, and is also incidently the reason I can't watch CSI anymore.

i know you're right

but the electricity cable i'm holding right now, has a rubber coating around it, and i'm not getting an electric shock

and if you get hit by a lightning, the electrcity has to go somewhere, you can't just absorb it, and rubber doesn't conduct (unless battery absorbs it, but i think it would rather explode)

guess i should have studied fysiks (fisyks? fisiks? is this even a word?) to understand that shit images/smilies/sad.gif

un-dee · June 23rd, 2006, 6:57 PM

Well, electricity normally cant travel through air, but a lightning does.
So what is the logical conclusion how the electricity goes from the car to the ground? Bingo.

Raven18940 · June 23rd, 2006, 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bone

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

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i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

rubber has NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER with being protected from lighting. The reason that car occupants are safe is because the car is a faraday cage. The rubber tires thing is a myth, and has nothing to do with anything, and is also incidently the reason I can't watch CSI anymore.

i know you're right

but the electricity cable i'm holding right now, has a rubber coating around it, and i'm not getting an electric shock

and if you get hit by a lightning, the electrcity has to go somewhere, you can't just absorb it, and rubber doesn't conduct (unless battery absorbs it, but i think it would rather explode)

guess i should have studied fysiks (fisyks? fisiks? is this even a word?) to understand that shit images/smilies/sad.gif

And if the biker was wearing a rubber suit than maybe he would have bee alright. Grounding has nothing to do with getting hit either, the electricity doesn't have to ground, just likes to. Lightning hits airplanes all the time, and they're about as non-grounded as things get. All that matters with lightening is the path of least resistance, and if that's you then you get hit.

Peter3hg · June 23rd, 2006, 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven18940

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Originally Posted by bone

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

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i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

rubber has NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER with being protected from lighting. The reason that car occupants are safe is because the car is a faraday cage. The rubber tires thing is a myth, and has nothing to do with anything, and is also incidently the reason I can't watch CSI anymore.

i know you're right

but the electricity cable i'm holding right now, has a rubber coating around it, and i'm not getting an electric shock

and if you get hit by a lightning, the electrcity has to go somewhere, you can't just absorb it, and rubber doesn't conduct (unless battery absorbs it, but i think it would rather explode)

guess i should have studied fysiks (fisyks? fisiks? is this even a word?) to understand that shit images/smilies/sad.gif

And if the biker was wearing a rubber suit than maybe he would have bee alright. Grounding has nothing to do with getting hit either, the electricity doesn't have to ground, just likes to. Lightning hits airplanes all the time, and they're about as non-grounded as things get. All that matters with lightening is the path of least resistance, and if that's you then you get hit.

To get an electrical shock you must be grounded. Thats why birds can sit on power cables and why if someone being lowered from a helicopter didn't lower a static line first, they would be electrocuted and the helicopter would likely explode.

Raven18940 · June 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by peter3hg2

To get an electrical shock you must be grounded. Thats why birds can sit on power cables and why if someone being lowered from a helicopter didn't lower a static line first, they would be electrocuted and the helicopter would likely explode.

No, you don't have to be grounded to get shocked. Case in point, the biker that got struck by lightening. He wasn't grounded.

jakifirbec · June 23rd, 2006, 10:32 PM

well the amount of current from the lightning is so huge that allmost everything becomes a conductor. i think the point is that there has to be some kind of a circuit for current to run. or something...

Peter3hg · June 23rd, 2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven18940

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Originally Posted by peter3hg2

To get an electrical shock you must be grounded. Thats why birds can sit on power cables and why if someone being lowered from a helicopter didn't lower a static line first, they would be electrocuted and the helicopter would likely explode.

No, you don't have to be grounded to get shocked. Case in point, the biker that got struck by lightening. He wasn't grounded.

Lightning can jump the few inches from the bike to the ground thus grounding, creating a circuit and giving him a shock.

AutoMX · June 24th, 2006, 12:06 AM

yea, while rubber wont conduct the lightining, it will just make it jump off the bike (or in the case of a person, off his feet) and then hit the ground. you can't stop lightning, just avoid it (literally or with some sort of metal cage/enclosure/rod)

chaos386 · June 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bone

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Originally Posted by zenkidori

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i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

rubber has NOTHING AT ALL WHATSOEVER with being protected from lighting. The reason that car occupants are safe is because the car is a faraday cage. The rubber tires thing is a myth, and has nothing to do with anything, and is also incidently the reason I can't watch CSI anymore.

i know you're right

but the electricity cable i'm holding right now, has a rubber coating around it, and i'm not getting an electric shock

and if you get hit by a lightning, the electrcity has to go somewhere, you can't just absorb it, and rubber doesn't conduct (unless battery absorbs it, but i think it would rather explode)

guess i should have studied fysiks (fisyks? fisiks? is this even a word?) to understand that shit images/smilies/sad.gif

The word you're thinking of is "physics". images/smilies/smile.gif

Yes, rubber is an insulator, but all insulators will break down and become a conductor once a certain voltage is reached (called the breakdown voltage). For example, the breakdown voltage for rubber insulating gloves used by utility line workers is about 15 to 20 kV, and the breakdown voltage for your electrical cable is probably only 600 V. In contrast, lightning can be in the range of 1 billion volts! According to this chart, that would mean you need a layer of rubber over 36 meters thick in order to fully insulate yourself from a lightning strike.

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ishigakisensei Joined: Feb 14th, 2006 Last Online: September 15th, 2006 Location: Japan-TN Posts: 343 Rep Power: 0	Well, he was on a bike after all. Talk about - ride the lightning!

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gtrietsc Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Lewisville, TX USA Age: 32 Posts: 1,241 Car: '06 BMW X3, '07 Ford F-150 FX4 Rep Power: 38	Well, when you capitalize Lightning, it can become a proper noun, so thats why the confusion. If you had said hit by 'lightning' instead of 'Lightning', maybe different? __________________

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bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: belgium!! Age: 25 Posts: 6,506 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 40	i thought you couldn't be hit when being on rubber?

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un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 1,482 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 35	Well, electricity normally cant travel through air, but a lightning does. So what is the logical conclusion how the electricity goes from the car to the ground? Bingo.

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jakifirbec Joined: Feb 10th, 2006 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Slovenija Age: 31 Posts: 713 Car: Mazda 6 Rep Power: 18	well the amount of current from the lightning is so huge that allmost everything becomes a conductor. i think the point is that there has to be some kind of a circuit for current to run. or something...

June 24th, 2006, 12:06 AM	#19
AutoMX Joined: Oct 3rd, 2004 Last Online: September 12th, 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 800 Rep Power: 0	yea, while rubber wont conduct the lightining, it will just make it jump off the bike (or in the case of a person, off his feet) and then hit the ground. you can't stop lightning, just avoid it (literally or with some sort of metal cage/enclosure/rod) __________________

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