Mugen Honda Legend Max - a Honda with POWER? WTF!

Viper007Bond · January 22nd, 2005, 4:37 PM

(Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet.)

WTF, a Honda with real power? images/smilies/ohmy.gif

Stolen from DieselStation.com.

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Mugen Legend Max
The Study Concept Model "LM (LEGEND MAX)"

Mugen concocted this insane Legend Max study concept using its own 4-liter, 500hp V8, proven in the American Le Mans Series (dig those Weber-style intake horns!), along with some extra goodies, to turn a nondescript Japan-spec Acura Legend (that’s “RL” in Japanese) into an AMG-killing super sedan.

http://images.cyclones-world.net/mug_lm-01.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/mug_lm-02.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/mug_lm-03.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/mug_lm-04.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/mug_lm-05.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/05tas-04.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/05tas-05.jpg

http://images.cyclones-world.net/05tas-07.jpg

Specifications and Equipment

Engine
* Engine name: Mugen MF408S
* Engine type: V8 Naturally Aspirated
* Displacement: 4.0Liters
* Horsepower: over 500ps
* Valvetrain: 32 valves, DOHC

Dimensions
* Overall Length: 4980mm
* Overall Width: 1905mm
* Wheelbase: 2800mm

Wheels and Tires
* Wheel: 18" Alloy (18x9.5JJ)- they look like Mugen NR wheels with a center cap and in a new color
* Tire: 275/35R18

Brakes
* Rotor: 5 slit
* Pad: Type Competition
* Hose: Micro Mesh Brake Lines

Interior
* Seat: bucket type (front)- not the currently available Mugen bucket seats, these have position adjustments

Color
* Exterior: Firecracker Red
* Interior: Black and Blue

Mugen MF408S engine
Debuting in the 2002 ALMS (American Le Mans Series), this 4 liter V8 engine has seen action every year since then. In 2004, it was used in the JGTC Series by the VEMAC RD408R GT500 class racing machine.

Specs for the MF408S in the VEMAC RD408R
* Layout: 90 degree V8 Naturally Aspirated
* Displacement: 4000cc
* Horsepower: 590hp / 9500rpm
* torque: 383lb/ft / 7500rpm
* Restrictor: 33.4mm x2 or 46.8mm x1
* Clutch: Carbon 4 plate
* length: 559mm
* width: 720mm
* height: 577mm
* weight: 131kg

590 HP outta a naturally aspirated 4-liter engine. Now that's scary... Okay, so it requires the engine to be revved to 9500 RPM and the tourque isn't all that much really, but still.

Ethan · January 22nd, 2005, 4:43 PM

WOW

A 590bhp V8 Honda?

I'll have to see it in real to believe it

Viper007Bond · January 22nd, 2005, 4:47 PM

It wasn't made by Honda, rather a tuning group, but still...

jasonchiu · January 22nd, 2005, 4:50 PM

yeah mugen is seperate from honda

mmap · January 22nd, 2005, 5:03 PM

Look too much like a ricer, but how much would I like to turn up at the stop lights with a V8 Honda!

The engine looks way too cool

jasonchiu · January 22nd, 2005, 5:07 PM

i like the car too. but the shape of the body is not that great. they should stick this in to a NSX or S2000 Type R images/smilies/w00t.gif

chaos386 · January 22nd, 2005, 5:08 PM

383lb-ft from 4 liters? Dang, can that thing even idle? The thought of 590hp at 9500rpm is awesome, though. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Viper007Bond · January 22nd, 2005, 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonchiu

i like the car too. but the shape of the body is not that great. they should stick this in to a NSX or S2000 Type R images/smilies/w00t.gif

I love the body personally.

mmap · January 22nd, 2005, 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonchiu

they should stick this in to a NSX or S2000 Type R images/smilies/w00t.gif

V8 S2000, OOOOohhhh I think I just wet myself "uses a hankie"

chaos386 · January 22nd, 2005, 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonchiu

i like the car too. but the shape of the body is not that great. they should stick this in to a NSX or S2000 Type R images/smilies/w00t.gif

I love the body personally.

It reminds me of the previous generation Mustangs and the Cobra R, but that might just be the color.

SiR_dude · January 22nd, 2005, 5:35 PM

Yeah, wasn't this thing at the NAIAS???? Mugen is an amazing tuning group...they make some awesome stuff. I don't overly care for the body either, but hey....a Honda with a kickass V8.... images/smilies/drool.gif

ESPNSTI · January 22nd, 2005, 5:39 PM

I think NBC is airing something about NAIAS on TV tomorrow at 1 est I think.

bone · January 22nd, 2005, 5:45 PM

could have been the next hyundai tiburon with those looks

and honda's are cool caus they get a lot of power from small engines, now they just turned into an american brand

and the legend is FWD, with 590 bhp images/smilies/unsure.gif

p0w3r · January 22nd, 2005, 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bone

could have been the next hyundai tiburon with those looks

and honda's are cool caus they get a lot of power from small engines, now they just turned into an american brand

and the legend is FWD, with 590 bhp images/smilies/unsure.gif

The new RL uses Honda's new SHAWD (Super-Handling-All-Wheel-Drive). What SHAWD does is move power from wheel to wheel in order to eliminate understeer. So if you are going though a right hairpin, most of the power will go on the rear-right tire, then when oversteer is detected, power will shift to the left.

And i wouldn't say they turned into a American brand, since the engine is still a 4 liter...vipers and corvettes that make 500hp have over 7liters (over 8 for viper) of displacement.

I personally think it looks good, the hood scoop looks kinda weird on that car, and the honda logo on the bottom grille looks bad, other then that it looks really good.

Overheat · January 22nd, 2005, 7:58 PM

That looks almost exactly like a Mustang SVT Cobra, is it based on it or something?

RiCh · January 22nd, 2005, 8:11 PM

WOW

That looks like a beast images/smilies/w00t.gif

Viper007Bond · January 22nd, 2005, 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by p0w3r

And i wouldn't say they turned into a American brand, since the engine is still a 4 liter...vipers and corvettes that make 500hp have over 7liters (over 8 for viper) of displacement.

True, but the Vette and Viper have what's called torque. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Plus, they have both torque and horsepower over a wide range instead of in the plus 8000 RPM range. You gotta rev the hell outta that Honda to get anywhere.

Phix · January 22nd, 2005, 8:59 PM

10000rpm redline, baby!

Ethan · January 22nd, 2005, 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by muumipeikko

Look too much like a ricer, but how much would I like to turn up at the stop lights with a V8 Honda!

The engine looks way too cool

*dreams about that*

p0w3r · January 22nd, 2005, 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0w3r

And i wouldn't say they turned into a American brand, since the engine is still a 4 liter...vipers and corvettes that make 500hp have over 7liters (over 8 for viper) of displacement.

True, but the Vette and Viper have what's called torque. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Plus, they have both torque and horsepower over a wide range instead of in the plus 8000 RPM range. You gotta rev the hell outta that Honda to get anywhere.

I'm not saying that Vipers and Corvettes are bad, sorry if came out that way images/smilies/tongue.gif

I'm just trying to say that even though it's a V8, it's still a fairly small V8...

(but then again, most race cars have little torque...even the heavy nascar cup cars have 'only' around 400ft lbs, they get their speed from the 700 hp....and open wheel cars have even less torque images/smilies/biggrin.gif

)

January 22nd, 2005, 4:43 PM	#2
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RiCh Joined: Dec 17th, 2004 Last Online: November 8th, 2006 Location: §¢ØT£åÑd Posts: 282 Rep Power: 0	WOW That looks like a beast __________________ `·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.· î X î _ ® ï ¢ h `·.¸¸.·´´¯`··._.·

January 22nd, 2005, 4:50 PM	#4
jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	yeah mugen is seperate from honda

January 22nd, 2005, 5:03 PM	#5
mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Finland Age: 30 Posts: 1,302 Car: BMW / Suzuki VX800 Rep Power: 23	Look too much like a ricer, but how much would I like to turn up at the stop lights with a V8 Honda! The engine looks way too cool

January 22nd, 2005, 5:07 PM	#6
jasonchiu Banned Joined: May 26th, 2004 Last Online: August 26th, 2005 Location: hong kong Posts: 5,216 Rep Power: 0	i like the car too. but the shape of the body is not that great. they should stick this in to a NSX or S2000 Type R

January 22nd, 2005, 5:08 PM	#7
chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Al-Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 23 Posts: 4,609 Car: 2009 Seat Leon FR LFS Status: Rep Power: 144	383lb-ft from 4 liters? Dang, can that thing even idle? The thought of 590hp at 9500rpm is awesome, though.

January 22nd, 2005, 5:35 PM	#11
SiR_dude Joined: Mar 5th, 2004 Last Online: November 13th, 2009 Location: Somewhere in rural Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,640 Car: 2000 Civic SiR Rep Power: 28	Yeah, wasn't this thing at the NAIAS???? Mugen is an amazing tuning group...they make some awesome stuff. I don't overly care for the body either, but hey....a Honda with a kickass V8....

January 22nd, 2005, 5:45 PM	#13
bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: belgium!! Age: 25 Posts: 6,506 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 40	could have been the next hyundai tiburon with those looks and honda's are cool caus they get a lot of power from small engines, now they just turned into an american brand and the legend is FWD, with 590 bhp

January 22nd, 2005, 8:59 PM	#18
Phix Joined: Oct 31st, 2004 Last Online: July 16th, 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 625 Rep Power: 0	10000rpm redline, baby!

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