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    Default No Veyron's for America?

    Another story about smart airbags:

    US airbag changes threaten Bugatti

    By James Mackintosh in London

    Published: August 15 2006 22:02 | Last updated: August 15 2006 22:02

    Bugatti could be driven out of business if the supercar manufacturer is forced to comply with new US airbag rules which come into force next month, the French subsidiary of Volkswagen has told safety regulators.

    Bugatti told the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in a letter last month that it would face “substantial economic hardship” from the new rules, which would require it to redesign its only model, the 1,001 horsepower €1m ($1.28m) Veyron. The cost would push up the price of the car 10 per cent and have a “catastrophic” effect on sales, it said.


    Other sports car subsidiaries of major vehicle manufacturers have also petitioned for exemptions in an attempt to take advantage of a loophole designed for small carmakers.

    Bugatti said in its letter it expected to lose €3.1m over the next three years even if it was exempted from the rules. If it was forced to introduce “smart” airbags, it could be forced to delay development of the next version of the Veyron, and the company’s French factory would have to stop production in 2008.

    “Ultimately, a denial of the petition could well put Bugatti out of business,” said the letter, signed by Thomas Bscher, president. Bugatti wants a two-year exemption, giving it time to build the 150 cars it plans to sell in the US – cars it had hoped would be completed by now. Italian sister company Lamborghini warned in its letter to NHTSA that it expected after-tax profit of €1.7m next year would plummet to a €4.7m loss if its Murcielago supercar was not exempted from the rules. It said the next generation of the car, due in 2009, would meet the new airbag requirements at a cost of about €20m.

    The US rules require “smart” airbags that can distinguish between adult and child passengers without seatbelts on and adjust airbag inflation for small drivers sitting further forward than is normal, to avoid injuries from the airbags themselves in a crash.

    But a series of low-volume producers, including Fiat subsidiaries Maserati and Ferrari, Holland’s Spyker, and Morgan and Lotus of the UK have warned that the costs of meeting the rule would be tens of millions of euros and do little to increase safety as their cars rarely carry children.

    “It is a case of the costs to fulfil 120 crash tests,” VW said. “But this doesn’t affect the overall safety of the car.”

    So far only Ferrari has been granted an exemption, with the other applications awaiting a decision from NHTSA.

    Ferrari, which applied only for its F430 car, said its profits would be hit by €44m next year if it was not granted the exemption.

    However, independent manufacturers are annoyed that subsidiaries of multinationals are using the low-volume loophole.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/51a62310-2c8...0779e2340.html

    I know we have heard of this before, but this might mean more Bugatti's for Europe.
    Given that Ferrari has been exempted other should be given the same status.

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    Why dont they just order to make airbag systems that reguire no seatbelts as it seems so hard for some people to use them.

    Americans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IVIaster
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    how is the jump from $1.3 mil to $1.4mil going to be catastrophic for sales?? The people that can afford it in the first place can easily manage another $100K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartboy9891
    how is the jump from $1.3 mil to $1.4mil going to be catastrophic for sales?? The people that can afford it in the first place can easily manage another $100K.
    Thats not neccesarily true, everyone has a budget, even the superrich.
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    this is so retarded
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    Aren't they only making 50 of them a year? How is 10% extra on top of the price tag going to affect sales? You don't buy a million dollar car if you're prepared to spent LESS than 1.1 million dollars on a car.

    Bugatti doesn't need the American market. Not for the Veyron. When they do offshoots, roadsters, saloons and the like then yeah they'll need the mass market.
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    probably because they are already sold in america, and not bringing them here means they lose those buyers. I'm sure they could pick up others, but remember, America is the largest supercar market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter3hg2
    Quote Originally Posted by bartboy9891
    how is the jump from $1.3 mil to $1.4mil going to be catastrophic for sales?? The people that can afford it in the first place can easily manage another $100K.
    Thats not neccesarily true, everyone has a budget, even the superrich.
    think about it, i really doubt that anyone who bought the Veyron had to struggle to afford it. Just the fact that so many people bought it before it was even driven tells me that. Also Veyrons are being bought for well above their MSRP due to demand. seriously another $100K wont mean anything
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    I'm probably missing something here, but why not just grab two airbags from Audi? How much would that cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESPNSTI
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    its not only the airbags, you have to redesign the cabin and fit it with sensors, also the seats.

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    Ok, what can you do with 1.4 million that you can't do with 1.3?

    Just put in the damned airbags and pass along the cost - people buying the Veyron are not going to care about an extra $100,000.
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    they should just exempt all cars that aren't new designed from that stupid rule. i dont think anyone will fit a child seat to a veyron and if he does, he should be smart enough to deactivate the airbag.

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    Agreed with Un-Dee.

    If they don't redesign the Veyron.. then the current Veyrons in America with be +++

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    Mmm, yeah, 'cause airbags will really make a difference when you crash at 253 MPH. Yup, uh-huh.

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    BTW, a few Veyrons have already made it to the US, so it won't be no Veyrons, just no more.

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    Damn. And here I was going to purchase one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsetter
    Damn. And here I was going to purchase one.
    you give me 1.4 mill and i'll MAKE you one
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsetter
    Damn. And here I was going to purchase one.
    ROLMAO, good one.

    I'm sure buyers don't give a jack sh!t about the extra $100K.
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