Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Saturn... Relationship

Snowdriver · January 15th, 2005, 7:03 PM

Hey,

I know GM owns all of these, but how did it all start, was Opel the original brand, and then went on to have divisions called Vauxhall (UK), Holden (Australia) and Saturn (US) or did it all happen differently? images/smilies/wacko.gif

Overheat · January 15th, 2005, 7:13 PM

I think the US version is Pontiac, non?

skorgu · January 15th, 2005, 7:57 PM

GM owns both Saturn and Pontiac.

Hazardous · January 15th, 2005, 7:58 PM

I think it's a mixture of mergers... I know that Opel made cars in Europe in very early 1900's and General Motors in US and these two merged at some point of history. Then umm... magic( images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

) happened and suddenly we have the companies as they are.

BTW, interestingly this bunch is part of GM. GM also makes Chevrolet and now Daewoo starts to make Chevrolets. Does this mean that GM bought Daewoo or something?

zeroSignal · January 15th, 2005, 8:25 PM

Yes, GM bought Daewoo some time ago. In a lot of eastern-european countries, such as Macedonia, where I'm from, Daewoo's are already sold as Chevrolets - they have been for about a year or so.

Chevrolet Matiz - doesn't sound right does it?

Wutputt · January 15th, 2005, 10:36 PM

GM took over Opel after WO I, but lost it just before WO II. German government took over Opel. After Germany was defeated at the end of WO II, GM acquired Opel again. GM bought Holden somewhere in the 30's I believe.

Vauxhall was even bought earlier. But at some point GM decided to shut down the development of Vauxhall and just sell German engineered Opel's as Vauxhall in the UK. At that point the name Vauxhall only still existed in the UK. In the beginning those Opel Vauxhall's got a different name. For example the Opel Corsa was sold as the Vauxhall Nova in the UK. But nowadays they just get the same name.

Ethan · January 16th, 2005, 2:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wutputt

GM took over Opel after WO I, but lost it just before WO II. German government took over Opel. After Germany was defeated at the end of WO II, GM acquired Opel again. GM bought Holden somewhere in the 30's I believe.

Vauxhall was even bought earlier. But at some point GM decided to shut down the development of Vauxhall and just sell German engineered Opel's as Vauxhall in the UK. At that point the name Vauxhall only still existed in the UK. In the beginning those Opel Vauxhall's got a different name. For example the Opel Corsa was sold as the Vauxhall Nova in the UK. But nowadays they just get the same name.

And here is called Chevrolet Corsa

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Snowdriver Joined: Aug 8th, 2004 Last Online: October 24th, 2009 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Opel/Vauxhall/Holden/Saturn... Relationship Hey, I know GM owns all of these, but how did it all start, was Opel the original brand, and then went on to have divisions called Vauxhall (UK), Holden (Australia) and Saturn (US) or did it all happen differently?

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Hazardous Joined: Sep 7th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Southern Finland Age: 25 Posts: 1,494 Car: None :/ Rep Power: 32	I think it's a mixture of mergers... I know that Opel made cars in Europe in very early 1900's and General Motors in US and these two merged at some point of history. Then umm... magic() happened and suddenly we have the companies as they are. BTW, interestingly this bunch is part of GM. GM also makes Chevrolet and now Daewoo starts to make Chevrolets. Does this mean that GM bought Daewoo or something?

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zeroSignal Nerdcore Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 19th, 2009 Location: Cybertron Age: 25 Posts: 509 Car: 2004 Seat Leon 1.9 TDI 110 Rep Power: 31	Yes, GM bought Daewoo some time ago. In a lot of eastern-european countries, such as Macedonia, where I'm from, Daewoo's are already sold as Chevrolets - they have been for about a year or so. Chevrolet Matiz - doesn't sound right does it? __________________

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Wutputt Joined: Nov 9th, 2004 Last Online: January 15th, 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	GM took over Opel after WO I, but lost it just before WO II. German government took over Opel. After Germany was defeated at the end of WO II, GM acquired Opel again. GM bought Holden somewhere in the 30's I believe. Vauxhall was even bought earlier. But at some point GM decided to shut down the development of Vauxhall and just sell German engineered Opel's as Vauxhall in the UK. At that point the name Vauxhall only still existed in the UK. In the beginning those Opel Vauxhall's got a different name. For example the Opel Corsa was sold as the Vauxhall Nova in the UK. But nowadays they just get the same name.

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