our first car project (bye bye 56K)

[bone]

so my best friends renault 19 suddenly showed a crack in the front windshield. took it to carglass for a new one, they remove the black rubber around the window, and found a lot of rust
if they'd put a new window in, it would crack again within the next month, so it has to be taken care of first

the crack, and on spot of rust (with a hole )


as you can see, it's all the way from left to right


since we're eliminating rust, the hood also need a patch

top-view of the hood


luckily the engine still looks in good shape, as do the seats (men i do love leather seats )



first things first, bye bye hood


the tools, from left to right.
the shiny one, has a sharp point at the bottom, you have to push it under the window, and then pull it down so it cuts through the glue
for the other one you need to get the metal wire through the glue (with the long pin), and then use it like a saw, you attach a handle on each side of the wire.


first try with the smallest tool, but that just resulted in an additional crack


so try the other one; first get the wire through


sawing it


bye bye windshield


maybe we should first clean out this, so we can work inside


70s ford escort



simca


and a caravan


will post pics as we proceed in the repair

[ArosaMike]

That's what happens when you buy french cars

[Dr. Woo]

Originally Posted by ArosaMike

That's what happens when you buy french cars

Haha, first reply beat me!

But anyways...this is cool. I love reading/viewing stuff like this. Keep it up!

[Cruzz563]

Yeah, I do too, it's good stuff

[jayjaya29]

Rust is a bitch, whatever you see on the outside...is 2 times worse on the inside.

[mancs]

Originally Posted by Dr. Woo

Haha, first reply beat me!

But anyways...this is cool. I love reading/viewing stuff like this. Keep it up!

Hmm... If you guys like these things, i could make a thread of my Lada project. Anybody interrested?

[pdanev]

^ dont ask stupid questions like that, just post

[Cruzz563]

Yeah, we like 'em, we like 'em

[Leppy]

Originally Posted by pdanev

^ dont ask stupid questions like that, just post

Exactly... Just do it!

I know where you can get rid of that caravan as well.... (Top Gear is always looking for fodder)

[luokyio]

What happens to Simca and MK1 Escort?

[bone]

Originally Posted by ArosaMike

That's what happens when you buy french cars

we warned him as well before he bought it, but hey, he wanted an R19 16v, and nothing would change that.

Originally Posted by Leppy

I know where you can get rid of that caravan as well.... (Top Gear is always looking for fodder)

that caravan is still in good shape, it's hardly used, blow up the tires and you're ready to go, that thing won't be destroyed soon (i hope)

Originally Posted by luokyio

What happens to Simca and MK1 Escort?

u want them?
in 81 or sth, the escort failed annual checkup due to rust, and it's been standing there ever since. if you hit the fender, you hear rust falling from everywhere in the car. and it's only a 1.5 3cyl, nothing special. i do like the interior


and the simca has his back end cut off, it's been used to make a pedal-cart for my friend when he was 10 years old or sth, and the inside has since then been changed so you could keep chickens in it, but it never served this goal.



anyways, since there is quiet a bit of interession, first a little explanation on the renault. my friend first bought a grey one, but every car sold in belgium, needs a checkup, and a paper saying it's qualified for sale. but on the way to the checkup, the engine started to act weird, and turned out the cat was broken. the cat is exclusively for the 16v, so pretty hard to find, and a new one costs about 1500€. so they guy sold the car without qualification, and a straight (crappy) exhaust, but for only 250€.

so he also bought the blue one (for 1700€), and now we wanted to change the cat from the blue on to the grey one, read on to see what happens

first continue the strip down...front grille is gone


bye bye headlights


as the front spoiler


getting the cat


here it is


SON OF A BITCH!!!!! it's empty

i'm starting to undertand why the car was only 1700€, and the guy it was bought from, worked in a garage during the weekends, so probably he went to the checkup with filled cat, got home and put the empty one back. quiet a problem when my friend has to get his car checked next year.

lambda removed


and allready start cutting the glue from the windshield, what a hatefull job


without a front windshield, you can take pics from a not so common angle, nice to see the headers



next we took a look a the cat of the grey one, and didn't find anything malfunctioning about it. a cat is actually just a porous rock, and the cat needs to be replaced when the this rock is broken. nothing looked broken, and we refitted it, with the lambda from the blue R19. the problems of a broken cat only becomes clear after driving for a while, when the engine gets hot and stuff, but the gaskets we put in between the cat are leaking, and we don't have other yet, so we can't realy go and check it out, caus it hardly makes any power now. lets hope the cat still works and it's only a broken lamba, that hardly costs any money compared to a cat.


and for the rust on the window, we're not quite sure how we will handle it, sand it down till clear metal and patch it up, or cut it away completely, and weld in another idententical piece. what would you guys do?

[jayjaya29]

I would take it out and put/form an identical piece. You don't know if the rust has compromised the structural integrity of the piece. So I would just cut it out and make up a new piece.

[bone]

that's what we'ld prefer to do, but the shape isn't that easy to make yourself, whipers for instanceare are attached to this part of metal. so we should only cut out the pieces which are rusty, and weld a new one in there. although you can grind it so you don't see it no more, we'd prefer sth else.


above the green battery-connector you can see the where the hinge for the hood used to be, it stops there, it doesn't go any further, but we can't realy tell wether it goes all around the window. if it doesn't, and we can order another one, we'll just cut it out, and have someone over for welding in the new piece (we don't have the proper welding equipment, nor the experience). if it does, we'll see what to do, cut out small pieces and weld in a new one, or put it in a shop somewhere and have them fix it

[jayjaya29]

Well as long as you remove all the rust, you should be fine.

[bone]

time to move on

first a little update on the gray 16v. so he was first gonna buy this one, but on the way to the MOT test, the car started acting weird, and the owner said this was because of a broken cat, which costs 1500€, so my friend bought the car as is, for only 250€.

the car runs fine until it gets hot, if you floor it then it starts to shock or jump or how you would call it, and has no power at all.

we've replaced the supposed to be broken cat with a straight pipe...and good news, still the same problem, so the cat is fine. next we replaced the lambda sensor, still no difference. next cause may be this device:

but i have no clue what it's called in english, we call it a "bobijn", maybe someone else knows what's its english name. it's this device that gives power to the coil, which divides the sparks over the different plugs. let's hope replacing this with the one from the blue 16v will solve the problem.

on the blue one, we've continued the strip down. we've also done a little research, and the piece that needs to be replaced is pretty small, but is also welded to the frame behind the dash, so that has to go as well


first the sideskirts had to go, and surprise surprise, more rust




once these were gone, all screws necersary to take off the side were accessible, so they're gone now


exteriour is kinda completely stripped, so now it's turn to do the inside
first bye bye steering wheel


and after a while, when more and more pieces start to go (like indicator and whiper handles), make the wires look it a little bit messy.


good thing we have a "take-the-dash-apart-manual", caus the steps you have to follow are far from logical. we'll need a "put-the-dash-together-again-manual" for when we'll start rebuilding it. if anyone knows one online, lemme know

[freakster_991]

wow thnx for the good stuff....its like watchin discovery.... ilove it.... wow nd u guys do ur own work!!! kewl stuff....R.E.S.P.E.C.T...... thts for u bone man

[jayjaya29]

Yeah, props for doing all this and actually taking pictures. I hope its going well, besides the all the rust you are finding.

[Ethan]

Nice caravan...

Can i play conkers with your caravan?

[bone]

i think it's funny how people can react to some unscrewed vises. that's actually all we've done until now, unscrew bolts and place the parts in a safe place.

a pitty i didn't have my phone yet when we rebuild the piaggio zip (with hometuned cylinders, carbs and carters, 70cc, 24mm carb, 14K RPM, est 10-11hp, 58kg), (klick here to see the result, notice the indicators - fibreglass) or the yamaha touareg, which has been sold afterwards (for 700€ :p).

and we're doing the taking-apart ourself, cutting the rusty piece we might do ourself as well, but for the welding, we'll probably have someone come over who has the proper tools and experience.

anyways, tnx for the replies guys

[fbc]

keep posting updates - great to read this kind of stuff (and I might just learn something)