Power Upgrades

M5Rangerover · June 10th, 2004, 2:43 AM

which would you rather do to your car? Supercharge, Turbocharge, rice rocket NOS, or something else

Viper007Bond · June 10th, 2004, 2:52 AM

Boring out the engine. images/smilies/twisted.gif

ESPNSTI · June 10th, 2004, 2:55 AM

Installing a second engine images/smilies/lol.gif

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M5Rangerover · June 10th, 2004, 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

Installing a second engine images/smilies/lol.gif

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hmm, i like the sounds of that

SiR_dude · June 10th, 2004, 3:19 AM

Supercharging runs a close one with Viper's boring it out. But IMO, Forced Induction > NA.

zeffez · June 10th, 2004, 6:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

Installing a second engine images/smilies/lol.gif

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don't laugh.. it's been done..

http://www.boost-beast.de/boost-beas...torenstart.WMV

2 x 330bhp in a opel corsa.. 1350kg total weight.. 0-62mph in 2.9sec

Viper007Bond · June 10th, 2004, 7:05 AM

It's been done MANY times in fact. There are double engined Caddies even.

MPower · June 10th, 2004, 7:06 PM

Tuning it as much as I can without making it FI.

kteO1 · June 10th, 2004, 7:09 PM

depend the car you wanna to mod..

Simon · June 10th, 2004, 8:42 PM

I'd say all of them, but I don't think that's physically possible... images/smilies/eek.gif

M5Rangerover · June 10th, 2004, 8:45 PM

well, if you think about it, you could, in theory, supercharge and turbocharge an engine.

I don't know if it would survive though images/smilies/eek.gif

Simon · June 10th, 2004, 8:49 PM

But it is possible? Wow, you learn something everyday images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Renesis · June 10th, 2004, 10:07 PM

Turbo is the best but I woudln't do that kind of big mods to my engine.

xkwilson · June 13th, 2004, 4:54 PM

I will go for turbo. Like the sounds that the turbo makes.

Likwid · June 13th, 2004, 5:02 PM

I would go new internals and machine work. Get it built up to handle FI.... or in the case of my Z24 get it built up because there is no FI worth buying...lol. I know... Z24... well at least it isnt another civic images/smilies/wink.gif

Renesis · June 13th, 2004, 5:28 PM

a Cav Z24?

Likwid · June 13th, 2004, 6:39 PM

Ya, I had a 94 Z28 but wanted a sport compact to play with (read something to drive while its raining...lol). Thing was I wanted something different then an Integra or Civic. Final choice came down to a '95 MR2 Turbo or the 97 Cavalier Z24. I couldnt get the dealer down to an acceptable price on the MR2 so I bought the Z24 thinking its a great looking car (i think it is) with a an engine that makes wonderful torque... there should be aftermarket parts out there for it... nope... nothing.

The headers available for the car either didnt flex with engine movement which cracked the welds on the down pipe or they made less torque then the stock manifold. Stan's was an option that made great HP and torque but it was just under $800..... I didnt pay $800 for BOTH my LT1 headers. Exhaust systems are even worse unless you go custom and it’s a strict requirement that you listen to the system first unless your fond of the hyperactive weed wacker sound…lol. RKSport’s system is honestly the loudest most ricey system Ive heard yet. A company did have a turbo kit but it was plagued with problems. GM was making a performance parts Eaton supercharger for it but it was only putting out 5-6lbs of boost and the cost of the kit… since it needed a new intake manifold, fuel regulator/pump and computer tweaking… was outrageous. If I was looking for a car to dress up with an expensive body kit I found it. Parts need to be custom for the most part. Comp Cams cut my cams but that’s the only custom work Ive had done except for machine work… porting/balancing.

Looking back the MR2 would have been the better purchase in an HP per dollar sense but the Z24 is an excellent winter car so its still here images/smilies/lol.gif

Renesis · June 13th, 2004, 7:48 PM

I drive my mom's 2001 Cavalier VL automatic sedan.. and images/smilies/wacko.gif

Likwid · June 13th, 2004, 8:23 PM

2001 was the first of the ECOTech engines correct?

Renesis · June 13th, 2004, 8:41 PM

no it was 2002, the year before they did a facelift to them.

and it's ECOTEC images/smilies/wink.gif

View Poll Results: Which is a better power upgrade?
Supercharger	11	23.40%
Turbo	28	59.57%
NOS	1	2.13%
other	3	6.38%
Rocket motor	4	8.51%
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June 10th, 2004, 2:43 AM	#1
M5Rangerover Joined: Jan 28th, 2004 Last Online: December 20th, 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Power Upgrades which would you rather do to your car? Supercharge, Turbocharge, rice rocket NOS, or something else __________________ ----------- 1986 325 ----------------------------------------------------------- 1987 325ic -----------

June 10th, 2004, 2:52 AM	#2
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:41 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Boring out the engine. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

June 10th, 2004, 2:55 AM	#3
ESPNSTI Can't Find Waldo Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Decorah, IA Age: 37 Posts: 4,333 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 42	Installing a second engine . __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

June 10th, 2004, 7:05 AM	#7
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 5:41 AM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,275 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	It's been done MANY times in fact. There are double engined Caddies even. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

June 10th, 2004, 3:19 AM	#5
SiR_dude Joined: Mar 5th, 2004 Last Online: November 13th, 2009 Location: Somewhere in rural Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,640 Car: 2000 Civic SiR Rep Power: 28	Supercharging runs a close one with Viper's boring it out. But IMO, Forced Induction > NA.

June 10th, 2004, 7:06 PM	#8
MPower Joined: Jan 10th, 2004 Last Online: February 12th, 2007 Location: California, USA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0	Tuning it as much as I can without making it FI. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2139272

June 10th, 2004, 7:09 PM	#9
kteO1 Joined: Nov 29th, 2003 Last Online: November 24th, 2004 Posts: 197 Rep Power: 0	depend the car you wanna to mod.. __________________ http://www.kevintrudelphoto.co.nr

June 10th, 2004, 8:42 PM	#10
Simon Joined: Jun 2nd, 2004 Last Online: December 24th, 2005 Location: England Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	I'd say all of them, but I don't think that's physically possible...

June 10th, 2004, 8:45 PM	#11
M5Rangerover Joined: Jan 28th, 2004 Last Online: December 20th, 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	well, if you think about it, you could, in theory, supercharge and turbocharge an engine. I don't know if it would survive though __________________ ----------- 1986 325 ----------------------------------------------------------- 1987 325ic -----------

June 10th, 2004, 8:49 PM	#12
Simon Joined: Jun 2nd, 2004 Last Online: December 24th, 2005 Location: England Posts: 108 Rep Power: 0	But it is possible? Wow, you learn something everyday

June 10th, 2004, 10:07 PM	#13
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	Turbo is the best but I woudln't do that kind of big mods to my engine.

June 13th, 2004, 4:54 PM	#14
xkwilson VIP Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: May 3rd, 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	I will go for turbo. Like the sounds that the turbo makes.

June 13th, 2004, 5:02 PM	#15
Likwid Joined: Jun 2nd, 2004 Last Online: August 16th, 2009 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	I would go new internals and machine work. Get it built up to handle FI.... or in the case of my Z24 get it built up because there is no FI worth buying...lol. I know... Z24... well at least it isnt another civic

June 13th, 2004, 5:28 PM	#16
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	a Cav Z24?

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June 13th, 2004, 6:39 PM	#17
Likwid Joined: Jun 2nd, 2004 Last Online: August 16th, 2009 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	Ya, I had a 94 Z28 but wanted a sport compact to play with (read something to drive while its raining...lol). Thing was I wanted something different then an Integra or Civic. Final choice came down to a '95 MR2 Turbo or the 97 Cavalier Z24. I couldnt get the dealer down to an acceptable price on the MR2 so I bought the Z24 thinking its a great looking car (i think it is) with a an engine that makes wonderful torque... there should be aftermarket parts out there for it... nope... nothing. The headers available for the car either didnt flex with engine movement which cracked the welds on the down pipe or they made less torque then the stock manifold. Stan's was an option that made great HP and torque but it was just under $800..... I didnt pay $800 for BOTH my LT1 headers. Exhaust systems are even worse unless you go custom and it’s a strict requirement that you listen to the system first unless your fond of the hyperactive weed wacker sound…lol. RKSport’s system is honestly the loudest most ricey system Ive heard yet. A company did have a turbo kit but it was plagued with problems. GM was making a performance parts Eaton supercharger for it but it was only putting out 5-6lbs of boost and the cost of the kit… since it needed a new intake manifold, fuel regulator/pump and computer tweaking… was outrageous. If I was looking for a car to dress up with an expensive body kit I found it. Parts need to be custom for the most part. Comp Cams cut my cams but that’s the only custom work Ive had done except for machine work… porting/balancing. Looking back the MR2 would have been the better purchase in an HP per dollar sense but the Z24 is an excellent winter car so its still here

June 13th, 2004, 7:48 PM	#18
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	I drive my mom's 2001 Cavalier VL automatic sedan.. and

June 13th, 2004, 8:23 PM	#19
Likwid Joined: Jun 2nd, 2004 Last Online: August 16th, 2009 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	2001 was the first of the ECOTech engines correct?

June 13th, 2004, 8:41 PM	#20
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	no it was 2002, the year before they did a facelift to them. and it's ECOTEC

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