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Old May 17th, 2005, 2:35 AM   #1
 
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Money/Tech reports that 2004 and early 2005 Toyota Prius models have software bugs that cause them to stall while traveling at highway speeds. While no accidents were reported to have been caused by the software glitch, could we be heading into an era where our automobiles will require software updates and fixes to keep them from literally 'crashing'?"


Link: http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/16/Auto...ex.htm?cnn=yes


It doesnt really suspise me that somthing like this would happen, it was only a matter of time before software glitch's started to show in cars
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Money/Tech reports that 2004 and early 2005 Toyota Prius models have software bugs that cause them to stall while traveling at highway speeds. While no accidents were reported to have been caused by the software glitch, could we be heading into an era where our automobiles will require software updates and fixes to keep them from literally 'crashing'?"


Link: http://money.cnn.com/2005/05/16/Auto...ex.htm?cnn=yes


It doesnt really suspise me that somthing like this would happen, it was only a matter of time before software glitch's started to show in cars
They already have, on BMWs and Mercedes as well...
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http://www.autopress.be/Temporaires/SALON/PARIS_2004/Toyota%20Prius%20GT.jpg

i dont get why they have tune'd this car...wont that make its mpg worse which is the point of the car at the 1st place
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WHRC will start up soon... then Hybrid NASCAR... then HF1... Then I'll shoot myself in the head.
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who else are making HWRC cars?
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i dont get why they have tune'd this car...wont that make its mpg worse which is the point of the car at the 1st place
They went rallying with this car...
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WTF?! on batteries? why not just take a corrolla then, when its not on bats it runs on the corrolla engine
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Did the concept of innovation fly over anyone's head?

Hey, I don't care what's under the hood, aslong as it sounds nice and has all the power I need. If Hybrids can work as good as current conventional engines, then why not?
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WTF?! on batteries? why not just take a corrolla then, when its not on bats it runs on the corrolla engine
well... hydrid engines when running on batt's have a flat torque curve which would really help in rallying
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yeah that would rock in rally. Maximum torque from the get go.
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Did the concept of innovation fly over anyone's head?

Hey, I don't care what's under the hood, aslong as it sounds nice and has all the power I need. If Hybrids can work as good as current conventional engines, then why not?
It's a senselessly complex drivetrain that costs ludicrious amounts of money, but the japanese have never been good at keeping it simple. images/smilies/lol.gif
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This is what all those hippies get for trying to be green... images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/tongue.gif
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ah .. the dreaded blue screen of death ... images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/lol.gif
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I wouldn't like to bore you now, but being a physics student I have a rather unique insight into this sort of thing, and believe me: The Prius is not a car, but a marketing trick.
If you only put petrol in the car (you don't plug this car into an electrical output, it rather fills its batteries while running on petrol) you CANNOT get more out ouf it than is contained in the petrol, thus the Corolla petrol engine is the only important factor here. By converting its power to electricity you only get losses.
Still, by clever marketing and the "its environment friendly" bullshit, everybody thinks this to be a great and innovating car which will save the environment. WRONG!!!
Think about it for a second...you put petrol in....which then charges the batteries...and then you drive on the batteries....there is no miraculous gain here, only loss.

In my oppinion, this car only makes sense in big cities, where you can drive on crowded roads and the town centre on your electrical engine, and then recharge it on the freeway later on, thus decreasing the pollution in the urban regions.
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Actually, the conventional engine alone doesn't charge the batteries. The batteries are charged with energy that would otherwise be lost in braking, combined with some power from the engine. Add that to the fact that the engine turns off when braking to a stop, and the fact that the engine is much more efficient than a normal engine, you have a pretty good concept. I think early models show how good this platform is. It's not just marketing.
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Holy moly, talk about blatantly stealing Audi's racing colors...

http://www.audinashua.com/event/images/galati.jpg
http://www.cromec.com/images/AudiDTM.jpg
http://www.germancarfans.com/classics/5040429.001/5040429.001.1M.jpg
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I wouldn't like to bore you now, but being a physics student I have a rather unique insight into this sort of thing, and believe me: The Prius is not a car, but a marketing trick.
If you only put petrol in the car (you don't plug this car into an electrical output, it rather fills its batteries while running on petrol) you CANNOT get more out ouf it than is contained in the petrol, thus the Corolla petrol engine is the only important factor here. By converting its power to electricity you only get losses.
Still, by clever marketing and the "its environment friendly" bullshit, everybody thinks this to be a great and innovating car which will save the environment. WRONG!!!
Think about it for a second...you put petrol in....which then charges the batteries...and then you drive on the batteries....there is no miraculous gain here, only loss.

In my oppinion, this car only makes sense in big cities, where you can drive on crowded roads and the town centre on your electrical engine, and then recharge it on the freeway later on, thus decreasing the pollution in the urban regions.
///M is right.

You don't gain energy. You just re-use energy you have already gotten from the petrol. This makes it more efficient. Being a physics student, you should know this.

Also I think this car is only marketed at city driving. Well it is here in Australia anyways. Noone would buy this to travel between cities.
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no TRD tends to be that color as well tbh
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no TRD tends to be that color as well tbh
Audi's used the silver/red motif since the first Quattro raced in 1980.
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yeah well i wont mess with ur car knowledge then
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