Speed Cameras to be replaced

No Boss · August 6th, 2006, 4:55 PM

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BIRMINGHAM, England, Aug. 4 (UPI) -- A new anti-speeding device that shames violating drivers by openly displaying their license plate numbers is set to be installed across Britain's roadways.

The device, called the M42, was previously tested near Birmingham. It publicly displays speeding warnings to specific cars by way of their license plates, causing drivers to slow down between 50 to 67 percent of the time, said the Times of London.

The current use of speed cameras in England and corresponding fines have only been found to reduce speeding by 31 percent, the Department of Transport said.

The company that manages the M42, Atkins, has said that other benefits from the shaming device would be a reduction in the number of deaths of road workers on the country's motorways, The Times said. And it costs about half of what the most commonly used speed camera costs.

"Rather than simply punishing drivers with a 60-pound (about $114.59) fine and three points, this appeals to their better nature," Atkins Director Richard Deacon told the paper. "People tend not to like being shown up for behavior which puts others in danger."

un-dee · August 6th, 2006, 5:04 PM

Uhm, I doubt this would work in Germany... images/smilies/biggrin.gif

the Interceptor · August 6th, 2006, 5:06 PM

Any idea how this works? And where exactly do they show your license plate?

And is this legal anyway? Isn't that discriminatory?

un-dee · August 6th, 2006, 5:13 PM

I guess its like these signs you find here saying "Your speed: xx km/h" displaying your speed with a LED display. And why shouldn't it be legal, the numberplate is on your car anyway.
Oh and could you change your signature one day, I am kind of tired looking at a turd all day.

the Interceptor · August 6th, 2006, 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Un-Dee

I guess its like these signs you find here saying "Your speed: xx km/h" displaying your speed with a LED display. And why shouldn't it be legal, the numberplate is on your car anyway.

I thought of that as well, but I think they'll do it differently, cause this would make no point at all. If they're showing "AA-BB 12 is speeding!" instead of "You're doing XY mph", where's the point in that? I wouldn't feel different if they show my numberplate instead of my speed.

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Originally Posted by Un-Dee

Oh and could you change your signature one day, I am kind of tired looking at a turd all day.

I removed it. images/smilies/wink.gif

un-dee · August 6th, 2006, 5:30 PM

I don't think I would feel different as well, and thats why I said it probably wouldn't work here. Maybe brits are ashamed easier?

I am sure Clarkson would try to set records with his GT...

And thanks for removing it images/smilies/wink.gif

epp_b · August 6th, 2006, 5:38 PM

Can't you get some sort of reflective coating for your license plates that reflects the camera flash? I know they're probably illegal, but the ironic thing is they'll never be able to tell! images/smilies/tongue.gif

GraemeH · August 6th, 2006, 6:45 PM

Bad idea. Good for my license and wallet, but bad idea. We have this big electronic sign on a road literally 30 seconds away that shows your speed and flashes when it's over 30. I'm a pretty sensible driver, and even I tried to see how high i could get it on a quiet morning. It's only a matter of time until someone measures 1/4 mile back and competes to clock it the highest :/

There have been a couple of accidents and a couple people killed right there, it may or may not have had something to do with the sign but i wouldn't be surprised.

bone · August 6th, 2006, 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by epp_b

Can't you get some sort of reflective coating for your license plates that reflects the camera flash? I know they're probably illegal, but the ironic thing is they'll never be able to tell! images/smilies/tongue.gif

hairspray i've been told
needs to be reapplied each time it has rained though

D-Fence · August 6th, 2006, 7:08 PM

We have it in Germany images/smilies/wink.gif

http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200407/StreetstyleDarkMark-1091191213.jpg

bartboy9891 · August 6th, 2006, 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bone

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Originally Posted by epp_b

Can't you get some sort of reflective coating for your license plates that reflects the camera flash? I know they're probably illegal, but the ironic thing is they'll never be able to tell! images/smilies/tongue.gif

hairspray i've been told
needs to be reapplied each time it has rained though

you always see these products in the back of automotive mags like Car And Driver. they claim its completely legal...

Bundesautobahn · August 6th, 2006, 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Fence

We have it in Germany images/smilies/wink.gif

Hey i saw that near the Austrian Border last week when i was in Germany.

It didn't have a high score list though. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Blind_Io · August 6th, 2006, 7:55 PM

I have heard of some people getting custom plates that are hard to read.

For example:

II1I1II
00O0OO0
VVWWVWW
88BB88B8

The repeated shapes make it hard to tell which characters are which - if there is someone else with a similar plate that is even better for you.

andyhui01 · August 7th, 2006, 12:09 AM

They have the speed display thing in Malaysia as well... but unfortunetly, it doesn't help at all, it has just become who can get the highest number on the signboard competition

watto · August 7th, 2006, 12:17 AM

There's been some mobile speed display things around Melbourne for a while. There was one near my house a few months ago. The screen just goes blank when you're doing more than 80km/h images/smilies/lol.gif

thedguy · August 7th, 2006, 12:34 AM

There are a couple of towns here that put up big Radar signs that tell the speeds of those coming upto it.

These don't have any kind of camera or anything (there are some like speed cameras as well), but people see them, panic, and brake hard. I've seen several accidents caused by these.
This in an area that really has little important to damage if someone wrecks, and even full of long straight roads.

FATMOUSE · August 7th, 2006, 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by No Boss

"Rather than simply punishing drivers with a 60-pound (about $114.59) fine and three points, this appeals to their better nature," Atkins Director Richard Deacon told the paper. "People tend not to like being shown up for behavior which puts others in danger."

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BlaRo · August 7th, 2006, 2:48 AM

Oh the shame and humiliation, I'm speeding! I have brought dishonor to my family!

In America the high speed signs are mounted on the bottom of hills and in other devilishly clever places (not really). The numbers light up red over a certain speed, letting you know that YOU'RE SPEEDING AND YOU'RE A CRIMINAL, OMG! My friends discovered that if you open the panel on the side, you can flick a dial and change the speed at which the numbers turn red. Anybody going over 1mph is a speeder. 8)

Redliner · August 7th, 2006, 4:19 AM

Pointless...

andyhui01 · August 7th, 2006, 6:02 AM

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Originally Posted by watto

There's been some mobile speed display things around Melbourne for a while. There was one near my house a few months ago. The screen just goes blank when you're doing more than 80km/h images/smilies/lol.gif

I've seen it on the Hume Highway when my friends and I drove to Sydney images/smilies/biggrin.gif

August 6th, 2006, 5:06 PM	#3
the Interceptor I LUV MY PRIUS!!! Joined: Feb 22nd, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Germany Posts: 3,518 Car: BMW E36 323i ultraleggera (-143 kg) Rep Power: 108	Any idea how this works? And where exactly do they show your license plate? And is this legal anyway? Isn't that discriminatory? __________________ "We have to laugh at the Germans, because they're so riddled with guilt about their history, they can't laugh at themselves." - Jeremy Clarkson Got a question regarding Hi-Fi of any kind? Then check my general audio thread.

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epp_b Unexperienced lover. Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 5:10 AM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 7,425 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 144	Can't you get some sort of reflective coating for your license plates that reflects the camera flash? I know they're probably illegal, but the ironic thing is they'll never be able to tell! __________________ www.eppbphoto.com Despite my given title, I am neither "unexperienced" (sic) nor a "lover"

August 6th, 2006, 6:45 PM	#8
GraemeH Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: 4:43 AM Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,068 Car: Toyota Corolla. Rawrr. LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	Bad idea. Good for my license and wallet, but bad idea. We have this big electronic sign on a road literally 30 seconds away that shows your speed and flashes when it's over 30. I'm a pretty sensible driver, and even I tried to see how high i could get it on a quiet morning. It's only a matter of time until someone measures 1/4 mile back and competes to clock it the highest :/ There have been a couple of accidents and a couple people killed right there, it may or may not have had something to do with the sign but i wouldn't be surprised. __________________

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Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,993 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	I have heard of some people getting custom plates that are hard to read. For example: II1I1II 00O0OO0 VVWWVWW 88BB88B8 The repeated shapes make it hard to tell which characters are which - if there is someone else with a similar plate that is even better for you. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

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un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 1,482 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 35	Uhm, I doubt this would work in Germany...

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un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 1,482 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 35	I guess its like these signs you find here saying "Your speed: xx km/h" displaying your speed with a LED display. And why shouldn't it be legal, the numberplate is on your car anyway. Oh and could you change your signature one day, I am kind of tired looking at a turd all day.

August 6th, 2006, 5:30 PM	#6
un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 1,482 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 35	I don't think I would feel different as well, and thats why I said it probably wouldn't work here. Maybe brits are ashamed easier? I am sure Clarkson would try to set records with his GT... And thanks for removing it

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,528 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	They have the speed display thing in Malaysia as well... but unfortunetly, it doesn't help at all, it has just become who can get the highest number on the signboard competition __________________

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watto Unloved and lacking a title Joined: Jun 13th, 2005 Last Online: 3:33 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 5,708 Car: MY06 Impreza 2.0R Hatch Rep Power: 73	There's been some mobile speed display things around Melbourne for a while. There was one near my house a few months ago. The screen just goes blank when you're doing more than 80km/h

August 7th, 2006, 12:34 AM	#16
thedguy ^ will bore you to death Joined: Jun 18th, 2004 Last Online: 4:34 AM Location: Under the Counter at McD's Posts: 7,433 Car: 1990 Mazda MX-5 & 91 318i. Rep Power: 148	There are a couple of towns here that put up big Radar signs that tell the speeds of those coming upto it. These don't have any kind of camera or anything (there are some like speed cameras as well), but people see them, panic, and brake hard. I've seen several accidents caused by these. This in an area that really has little important to damage if someone wrecks, and even full of long straight roads.

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BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,259 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 372	Oh the shame and humiliation, I'm speeding! I have brought dishonor to my family! In America the high speed signs are mounted on the bottom of hills and in other devilishly clever places (not really). The numbers light up red over a certain speed, letting you know that YOU'RE SPEEDING AND YOU'RE A CRIMINAL, OMG! My friends discovered that if you open the panel on the side, you can flick a dial and change the speed at which the numbers turn red. Anybody going over 1mph is a speeder. 8) __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

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