The General Motorbikers Discussion Thread - Page 97

argatoga · June 30th, 2009, 3:23 AM

Here they are from both sides. It doesn't look terribly complicated to replace the whole unit, but how much would it cost?

Spectre · June 30th, 2009, 3:27 AM

Check out that link I posted.

You'll need that plus some gaskets from your local Honda dealer.

Shouldn't take you an hour to replace that in your driveway.

hansvonaxion · July 1st, 2009, 10:20 AM

Tried some filming on the bike with the video camera but the extra weight means it bounces around like a mother. So I may have to buy and el-cheapo digicam or try to reinforce the mount.

Also got the bike serviced, $200! May well buy some tools and do some work myself from now on. Front brake pads will need changing soon, guess I'll give that a shot.

Spectre, you seem to be the man with connections. If you come across a workshop manual in English for a CB400SF available for DL somewhere, could you let me know? Don't think I'd buy a hard copy - don't know if I'll keep this bike too long.

Aratoga, congrats on the purchase. Enjoy your freedom.

Spectre · July 1st, 2009, 10:38 AM

I need a year on that 400SF to look for it. I don't think there was one in English, though there's plenty of Japanese and Russian ones running around.

In the meantime - the Honda Common Service Manual: http://www.nighthawk750.com/maint/Ho...ice_Manual.pdf

That and many other manuals may be found here:

http://www.carloboldetti.com/bike/manuals.htm

Everyone with a Honda should have that - not because that's a service manual, but because it's the big "how to" manual that describes how stuff works. This is also the book to which the service manuals refer you to for more details.

As one site puts it:

Quote:

The Honda common service manual is to be used in conjunction with the service manual specifically designed for your ATV, motorcycle or scooter. It is NOT a replacement for a repair manual. Many common procedures are outlined in this book in greater detail than may be included in your service manual. If you are purchasing a Honda Factory manual this book is the perfect companion publication.

The Honda Common Service Manual explains the theory of operation of the various systems common to Honda motorcycles, motorscooters, ATVs and Personal Watercraft.

Factory Honda manuals that are specific to one particular model frequently advise you to consult the Honda Common Service Manual for many repair procedures. The Honda Motorcycle Common Service Manual outlines all service and repair procedures used in a typical motorcycle service shop environment.

This manual is an invaluable resource for all students of motorcycle technology in general and Honda technology in particular. All motorcycle operating systems are explained in detail with easy to read text supported by high quality illustrations. Each section begins with an outline of operational theory, continues with a detail of the various types of technology used by Honda over the years, and then follows up with troubleshooting and repair procedures.

Recommended reading.

Edit: Try this one for info on your SF in the interim. http://web.archive.org/web/200709151...ome/davewitts/

hansvonaxion · July 1st, 2009, 11:19 AM

You're a champ.

My wife is out in the sticks getting ready to drop a mini-me out of her nether regions. I'm supposed to take the train up there soon, but I just might ride the bike instead, even though it'll probably cost about the same, take a lot longer and be a lot less comfortable.

BlaRo · July 1st, 2009, 3:40 PM

I saw a Buell Lightning XB12Scg at the horrible Honda dealer that I'm never going to ever again anymore*. I was

at how tiny it was: it makes a Honda 919 look huge in comparison.

I've always had a soft spot for Buells, unreliable as they are, and I might be putting a Lightning XB125Scg (the cg means it's been lowered) on my "favorite bikes" list.

*Sadly, it's the only one in the area that sells Honda parts. And the people there are pricks, and everything's overpriced...so I'm gonna build my own Honda bike dealership! With blackjack! Aaaaannd hookers! Actually, forget the Honda dealership, and the blackjack! Ah, screw the whole thing.

Karoug · July 1st, 2009, 7:44 PM

Had the summers first off today! My Husaberg decided it needed to befriend a couple of bushes...

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 3:14 PM

I may be buying a Honda Pacific Coast today. We'll see what happens.

BlaRo · July 2nd, 2009, 3:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

I may be buying a Honda Pacific Coast today. We'll see what happens.

But you already have a car!

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

But you already have a car!

Heh.

Well, the 700SC isn't good at longish trips outside commuting range. Too much weight on the pegs, same thing Hammond had problems with on the Black Shadow. I'd like something I could ride to Austin without rider issues.

Did I mention that this person is selling it for $600 and has no idea what it is?

freeferrarisdonotexist · July 2nd, 2009, 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

Heh.

Well, the 700SC isn't good at longish trips outside commuting range. Too much weight on the pegs, same thing Hammond had problems with on the Black Shadow. I'd like something I could ride to Austin without rider issues.

Did I mention that this person is selling it for $600 and has no idea what it is?

Jump on it mate. That's how I ended up with the MX5.

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 4:04 PM

I've already emailed the seller and left a couple of messages via phone. We'll see what happens.

Blind_Io · July 2nd, 2009, 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

I saw a Buell Lightning XB12Scg at the horrible Honda dealer that I'm never going to ever again anymore*. I was

at how tiny it was: it makes a Honda 919 look huge in comparison.

I've always had a soft spot for Buells, unreliable as they are, and I might be putting a Lightning XB125Scg (the cg means it's been lowered) on my "favorite bikes" list.

*Sadly, it's the only one in the area that sells Honda parts. And the people there are pricks, and everything's overpriced...so I'm gonna build my own Honda bike dealership! With blackjack! Aaaaannd hookers! Actually, forget the Honda dealership, and the blackjack! Ah, screw the whole thing.

You know that you can get any Honda part at any Honda dealer, right? A Honda car dealer should be able to order motorcycle parts for you.

As for the Buell: I got a chance to ride one of those. It wasn't terrible, but it should have been much better than it was, especially for the cost. One of the major problems with them is that the fuel is in the frame, which is wrapped around the motor. The motor can get so hot that it boils the fuel in the lines, which vapor-locks the motor until you let it cool all the way down.

Also, the sales guys flat out lied to us about who developed the 1125R. They said that Buell was instrumental in the design of the bike and the motor, but they contracted Rotax to build the powerplants. Actually, Buell had almost no input in the design of the bike other than slapping their name on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

I may be buying a Honda Pacific Coast today. We'll see what happens.

Great bike! It was way ahead of it's time when it was introduced and it still looks amazing today.

Pacific Coast goodness:

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 5:48 PM

Gotta love the Honda parts distribution chain - so long as you have the part number to give to the clerk, they can get it regardless of if they normally carry the type of Honda the part is for.

The PacCoast owner hasn't gotten back to me, hope she calls me back soon.

BlaRo · July 2nd, 2009, 5:52 PM

The nearest Honda car dealership is pretty far too, but I'll keep that in mind next time. I don't think I'll need to order any Honda parts anytime soon, however.

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 5:55 PM

Check out what's on this morning's Craigslist....

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/1250352682.html

BlaRo · July 2nd, 2009, 6:06 PM

Should be a fun project, but a bit overpriced for something with an engine stuck in first gear. Also, I've got that exact same cheapo fairing on my own bike, it's a "Viper" fairing and costs about $100.

Anybody in TX want a project? Join the fun! You know you want to.

Spectre · July 2nd, 2009, 11:00 PM

She called back, going to look at it now.

Spectre · July 3rd, 2009, 8:51 AM

Today was a good day.

First, I got this Pacific Coast for $500.

Then I went and picked up a parts bike for my 700S for $200.

smib · July 3rd, 2009, 1:00 PM

That is a good day. Mine so far has included three piles of dog poop and one puddle of dog pee ion my kitchen. None of those are motorcycles.

June 30th, 2009, 3:23 AM	#1921
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 7:44 PM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,550 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 142	Here they are from both sides. It doesn't look terribly complicated to replace the whole unit, but how much would it cost? __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

June 30th, 2009, 3:27 AM	#1922
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	Check out that link I posted. You'll need that plus some gaskets from your local Honda dealer. Shouldn't take you an hour to replace that in your driveway. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 1st, 2009, 10:20 AM	#1923
hansvonaxion Joined: Apr 8th, 2005 Last Online: 1:59 PM Location: Tokyo Posts: 1,741 Car: CB400SF Hyper VTEC Rep Power: 59	Tried some filming on the bike with the video camera but the extra weight means it bounces around like a mother. So I may have to buy and el-cheapo digicam or try to reinforce the mount. Also got the bike serviced, $200! May well buy some tools and do some work myself from now on. Front brake pads will need changing soon, guess I'll give that a shot. Spectre, you seem to be the man with connections. If you come across a workshop manual in English for a CB400SF available for DL somewhere, could you let me know? Don't think I'd buy a hard copy - don't know if I'll keep this bike too long. Aratoga, congrats on the purchase. Enjoy your freedom. __________________

July 1st, 2009, 11:19 AM	#1925
hansvonaxion Joined: Apr 8th, 2005 Last Online: 1:59 PM Location: Tokyo Posts: 1,741 Car: CB400SF Hyper VTEC Rep Power: 59	You're a champ. My wife is out in the sticks getting ready to drop a mini-me out of her nether regions. I'm supposed to take the train up there soon, but I just might ride the bike instead, even though it'll probably cost about the same, take a lot longer and be a lot less comfortable. __________________

July 1st, 2009, 3:40 PM	#1926
BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 8:43 PM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,124 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 360	I saw a Buell Lightning XB12Scg at the horrible Honda dealer that I'm never going to ever again anymore. I was at how tiny it was: it makes a Honda 919 look huge in comparison. I've always had a soft spot for Buells, unreliable as they are, and I might be putting a Lightning XB125Scg (the cg means it's been lowered) on my "favorite bikes" list. Sadly, it's the only one in the area that sells Honda parts. And the people there are pricks, and everything's overpriced...so I'm gonna build my own Honda bike dealership! With blackjack! Aaaaannd hookers! Actually, forget the Honda dealership, and the blackjack! Ah, screw the whole thing. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

July 1st, 2009, 7:44 PM	#1927
Karoug Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 9:06 PM Location: Sweden Age: 31 Posts: 3,798 Car: Volvo 745GLT! 2 bikes Rep Power: 108	Had the summers first off today! My Husaberg decided it needed to befriend a couple of bushes... __________________ I support the formation of Koenigsaab.

July 2nd, 2009, 3:14 PM	#1928
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	I may be buying a Honda Pacific Coast today. We'll see what happens. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 2nd, 2009, 4:04 PM	#1932
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	I've already emailed the seller and left a couple of messages via phone. We'll see what happens. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 2nd, 2009, 5:48 PM	#1934
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	Gotta love the Honda parts distribution chain - so long as you have the part number to give to the clerk, they can get it regardless of if they normally carry the type of Honda the part is for. The PacCoast owner hasn't gotten back to me, hope she calls me back soon. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike) Last edited by Spectre; July 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 PM.

July 2nd, 2009, 5:52 PM	#1935
BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 8:43 PM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,124 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 360	The nearest Honda car dealership is pretty far too, but I'll keep that in mind next time. I don't think I'll need to order any Honda parts anytime soon, however. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

July 2nd, 2009, 5:55 PM	#1936
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	Check out what's on this morning's Craigslist.... http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mcy/1250352682.html __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 2nd, 2009, 6:06 PM	#1937
BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 8:43 PM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,124 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 360	Should be a fun project, but a bit overpriced for something with an engine stuck in first gear. Also, I've got that exact same cheapo fairing on my own bike, it's a "Viper" fairing and costs about $100. Anybody in TX want a project? Join the fun! You know you want to. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

July 2nd, 2009, 11:00 PM	#1938
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	She called back, going to look at it now. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 3rd, 2009, 8:51 AM	#1939
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 9:02 PM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,129 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 184	Today was a good day. First, I got this Pacific Coast for $500. Then I went and picked up a parts bike for my 700S for $200. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

July 3rd, 2009, 1:00 PM	#1940
smib Joined: Aug 31st, 2007 Last Online: 6:34 PM Location: Bristol, Connecticut Age: 22 Posts: 2,155 Car: 2008 Scion tC LFS Status: Rep Power: 82	That is a good day. Mine so far has included three piles of dog poop and one puddle of dog pee ion my kitchen. None of those are motorcycles. __________________ PunisherBass: ANYONE with an IQ higher than a jar of mayo wouldn't be able to get through the scientology mumbojumbo without laughing their ass off. Clegg: PunisherBass, quit insulting mayo. "Sorry for the short replies, I can't use my left hand. In fact the whole left side of my body feels like it got hit by a planet. The right side is better, it only got hit by a truck." -Blind_Io I am an audiosurf elite champion, motherfucker. I support Koenigseggggggsegggegggegigioabbavikingsaab. Do you?

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