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| The Truth About Cars puts out some great, although cynical, articles on cars, car reviews, and the GM Death Watch, but today they've really outdone themselves. I thought this article was utterly brilliant. Epitomizes almost everything I love about cars and driving. I want a manual car desperately now. ![]() Quote:
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| NOT the owner of this place! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 18 Posts: 9,097
Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 39 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | I thought that was a brilliant article, thanks for sharing The Truth About Cars is a great site, I've always valued their articles and their roadtests.Quote:
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Anyways - I am basically growing up and starting off with the tiptronics whereas most of you that are older than me would have learnt on a manual. I've said before, I like some tiptronics and I love the technology the DSG's offer. It wouldn't give you the same 'driver involvement' as the manuals but I like the simplicity of it. But I'll definately be driving a manual within the next 6-months so I'm licenced to drive a manual. | ||
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| Mantastic! Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: 01:06 PM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 33 Posts: 10,243
Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 74 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Brilliant article - long live the manual gearbox I don't care how good autos / SMG's / DSG's / flappy-paddles etc become, they'll *never* surpass a manual in the ways that really matter.
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| Unloved and lacking a title Joined: Jun 13th, 2005 Last Online: 10:56 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 5,309
Car: 1997 VW Golf MkIII CL, Giant OCR 3 Rep Power: 54 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Manual drivers shall inherit the earth. When I see a high end sports/super car with an auto, I cringe and think 'You could have so much more fun' Who cares if the auto 997 Turbo is faster than the manual? Get the manual, become involved in the cars inner-workings. Tell the car what to do, YOU be the boss. My car (Mk III Golf CL) might not be fast but it's an absolute hoot with the 5-sp manual, keeping the revs up, zipping through traffic. I hate to think how boring my life would be without the manual gearbox.
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| Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:28 AM Location: A-Town, Illinois. Age: 33 Posts: 4,947
Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 84 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That article summed up the reason why I only own cars with manuals. BlaRo, pursue that dream, make sure you do not comprimise. After you learn the basics, you can then learn advanced techniques like rev matching and heel and toe downshifting. After alot of practice (and still learning!) I can downshift through 4th, 3rd and 2nd in about a second per shift or less. Nothing brings more satisfaction than a 2 gear downshift at a tight corner. I'll try to describe it: Foot on the brake, the side of my foot blipping the throttle the same time I press in the clutch....Whoooom!.....a quick one into 3rd....Whoooom!....rev this one a little higher for 2nd gear....Hold the brake towards the apex, roll into the throttle at the apex and drift out, the engine singing itself to its redline, I shift into third and pursue the next corner.
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| After learning how to drive stick, I've never wanted to go back to an automatic. The fact that I can have that much more control over my car, it makes me feel that I know what my car is going to do before it does. Also, owning a proper stick forces on to focus on the road even more. Cell phone? Sorry, both hands busy. Not to mention you constantly have to read your engine and the traffic, to find the gear that's right for the traffic. And when there isn't any traffic, you through caution to the wind, and sound the trumpets of speed! Though I have to go one step further. I learned to drive stick without the benefit of a tachometer. The first manual car I bought didn't have a tachometer. And now, not only does my Volvo have a tachometer, it also has a shift light. One that I tend to ignore...
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| I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 24 Posts: 1,393
Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 25 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Quote:
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| Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:28 AM Location: A-Town, Illinois. Age: 33 Posts: 4,947
Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 84 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well, heres the counter point by someone whom I am thinking is unable to drive a car with a manual tranny. Quote:
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| I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 24 Posts: 1,393
Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 25 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Thats nothing more than intellectual masturbation of the writer. He doesn't even notice how stupid it is. Manuals causing accidents... yeah, right... If you drive an automatic you still brake with your right foot (maybe he does it with both?!?) and a manual does give you a better fuel economy if you know how to drive with it. He makes this sound as if you have to think about every single shift, concentrating hard. The fact is that you do all these shifts without doing any thinking, you just do it when its the right time. That's what driving school is for... *shakes head* |
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| that article is brilliant. especially this part: "If you don’t quite get the value of this automotive self-expression thing, let’s start with the typical launch. All that is required is a good clutch, accurate throttle and some decent hardened steel pipes. OK; feeling a little down? Go for a low-rev clutch-drop. The engine bogs down slightly until it catches and runs up to the first shift point. A longish idling pause while snatching second continues the melancholy mood. The slow second gear climb-out extends the dark, minor-chord. All who hear intuitively understand the underlying color, whether or not they realize it." it's bang on. it's really like your soul is speaking through the way you shift. fantastic
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| Joined: Nov 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 17th, 2008 Posts: 48
Rep Power: 0 ![]() | Written with true passion... absolutely fantastic... If you are a true driver, drive a manual with true passion, you understand everything thats written in that article. those who dont, havnt, or never have been good driving a manual will NEVER understand. The counter article ??? Where did this kid come from? Manuals cause accidents? Go back to your Powerwheels Jr. Those who drive manual do it passively, without thought. Drive a manual with the deft touch, being able to feel the car, what its doing, and how it is. How many times do i climb into someone elses car and notice things they never have. Wake up and find some passion. |
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| Mantastic! Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: 01:06 PM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 33 Posts: 10,243
Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 74 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | That counter-point article is hilarious, how someone can be so wrong is truly amazing - though I'm worried if the author is actually in control of a car somewhere...
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| What a dick the writer of that counter-article is. I have so far only had 13 lessons driving (about 7 hours all in all) and I don't need to listen to the engine or look at the tacho to set off. You just feel the bite point and your away. And has he ever heard of engine braking which is basically impossible in an auto. I really can't buy manuals being dangerous at all. I would think more accidents involve autos because they are normally driven by rich shits and their wives who can't drive properly (I'm talking about the UK here)
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| That's a good read. Reminds me of teaching my friend to drive stick, he kept stalling and I told him he had to move both feet...at once...in a cooridnated fashion, and he said, "Whaaaaaaat? forget this." ![]() Quote:
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This also explains why Drag racing is not as pointless and stupid as many people (on here) like to make it out to be. | ||
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| Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 02:17 PM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,746
Car: Pimpmobile Rep Power: 68 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Quote:
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