Thinking of a new car next year...

Samir · October 16th, 2006, 2:46 PM

Here's what I want

-4 doors
-AWD
-Decent 0-60
-Leather, preferably heated and cooled
-Sun roof
-Good lumbar support
-Sat nav

So far the two cars I'm looking at are the MazdaSpeed 6 and the Subaru Legacy, but I dont know if I can get all those options on these cars. I will be specking them out soon.

Can you guys recommend something in this range as alternative and comparison? Just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. I don't want a CUV (like a Infinity FX35) either.

Militant-Grunt · October 16th, 2006, 3:34 PM

AUDI A4 2.0T Quattro good tuning potential, luxary, decent 0-60, a very comfortable car. about mid 30s decked out.

The Legacy GT is a good choice, so is the mazdaspeed 6, but you cant beat interior quality when it comes to audi, my 98 has a better interior than a 06 mazda 6.

Dins · October 16th, 2006, 5:17 PM

330xi is another option. depends what you want to spend.

Blind_Io · October 16th, 2006, 9:00 PM

Personally, I would lean for the Mazda Speed 6. I was behind on on an on-ramp a few months ago, when the light went green the car just disappeared - no smoke or fishtailing back end or any of that drama; just one minute it was there and the next it was a red speck down the highway making for the fast lane.

3Colin · October 16th, 2006, 9:14 PM

I own a Legacy, it's quite a car. I think you can't go wrong with a Legacy GT, as long as you're not expecting BMW-level precision and body control. The Mazdaspeed 6 is a bit more powerful, but quite a bit less refined and not as good looking.

bartboy9891 · October 16th, 2006, 9:16 PM

i like the Mazdaspeed 6 interior more so than the Legacy GT, the 6 is cheaper and more powerful. But speed-wise they are more less similar, the GT isnt that much more expensive and the Legacy's reliability has been established.

Lilleput · October 16th, 2006, 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samir

Here's what I want

-4 doors
-AWD
-Decent 0-60
-Leather, preferably heated and cooled
-Sun roof
-Good lumbar support
-Sat nav

So far the two cars I'm looking at are the MazdaSpeed 6 and the Subaru Legacy, but I dont know if I can get all those options on these cars. I will be specking them out soon.

Can you guys recommend something in this range as alternative and comparison? Just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. I don't want a CUV (like a Infinity FX35) either.

Buy my Evo! images/smilies/cry.gif

I'd suggest a Audi A4 Diesel.

Samir · October 16th, 2006, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilleput

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samir

Here's what I want

-4 doors
-AWD
-Decent 0-60
-Leather, preferably heated and cooled
-Sun roof
-Good lumbar support
-Sat nav

So far the two cars I'm looking at are the MazdaSpeed 6 and the Subaru Legacy, but I dont know if I can get all those options on these cars. I will be specking them out soon.

Can you guys recommend something in this range as alternative and comparison? Just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. I don't want a CUV (like a Infinity FX35) either.

Buy my Evo! images/smilies/cry.gif

I'd suggest a Audi A4 Diesel.

Both excellent ideas I presume, but the last time I was in Europe in a more or less permanent fashion was in 1992!

Audi A4 on gas (petrol) is a nice car, but a bit too showy. One of the guys I work with let me drive it this summer, I redlined it, threw it into curves at hair-raising speeds, treated the brakes like shit, and the car took it all without complaints. The thing is, I like cars with good value for money that people are not tempted to steal. MSP6 or Legacy have more of a Q-car value to them, which I like. I'm a low key person, I like my cars that way too.

I went by BMW the other day actually. The stealership I went to was full of pricks, not interested in talking to anyone but repeat clients.

jeffy777 · October 16th, 2006, 10:52 PM

As I was reading your description, I was thinking Subaru images/smilies/wink.gif

The_Clincher · October 16th, 2006, 11:10 PM

^^ same here images/smilies/tongue.gif

, but some of your best bets would definately be the mazdaspeed6 or the legacy GT, which they just made some improvements on (SI drive, more ergonomic stuff, telescoping wheel i think? mayb some othrs) but id look at the audi 2.0T 1st, but thats just because i love audi's with a firey passion of lust images/smilies/twisted.gif

Izari · October 17th, 2006, 12:35 AM

Audi RS4...
Audi S4
Audi A4 2.0T with tuning
Audi A4 3.2 stock
BMW 330xi stock
Mercedes C320 awd

...
Mazda is just uncool as an awd car
...
just me anti-mazda for no reason...

The_Clincher · October 17th, 2006, 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izari

Audi RS4...
Audi S4
Audi A4 2.0T with tuning
Audi A4 3.2 stock
BMW 330xi stock
Mercedes C320 awd

...
Mazda is just uncool as an awd car
...
just me anti-mazda for no reason...

C320 ew, and i doubt the RS4 or the S4 would be in his price range if he's looking at the legacy GT and speed6 as main choices

Izari · October 17th, 2006, 1:56 AM

preowned B6/B7 S4 is not bad
like 35k

Vette Boss · October 17th, 2006, 2:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izari

Audi RS4...
Audi S4
Audi A4 2.0T with tuning
Audi A4 3.2 stock
BMW 330xi stock
Mercedes C320 awd

...
Mazda is just uncool as an awd car
...
just me anti-mazda for no reason...

No offense meant really, but the Mazda here isn't made to be cool. It's for people who just want to go fast and don't care about image. The Mazda will drive better than any of those German tanks, even the RS4. Despite the RS4's colossal grunt, it's tuned like all Audis, to be very safe, sanitised and boring.

Dark_Templer_102 · October 17th, 2006, 2:31 AM

Mazda has that weird FWD most of the time and then AWD when it needs it. Also, i think it has heat-soak problems..however, I do love the interior!

If you get a Legacy GT (I have one and recommend it...wonder why) A major factor in the car's handleing is the car's stock RE92s....Personally, i recommend a Spec-B, front and rear sway bars, Cobb AP with a TDC tune, maybe new springs if you REALLY care (the struts are stiff, but yet they put some mushy springs on).

And you can go Stage 2 and really improve the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. 4.7 0-60ish...

Basicly, Legacy has all you want except air-cooled seats and "good" lumbar support is only for you to define.

Not to mention theres a great legacy community online!

watto · October 17th, 2006, 2:35 AM

As I was reading the description of what you wanted, I thought "You need a WRX"... But hell, a Legacy/Liberty GT is a wonderful car and looks awesome, I also think it's a bit more of a sleeper than the Mazda 6 MPS. images/smilies/twisted.gif

Dark_Templer_102 · October 17th, 2006, 2:57 AM

Oh also a good thing with the LGT is that...its a total sleeper!

sgb33f · October 17th, 2006, 3:29 AM

legacy GT and spec out the suspension w/ sti kits. (a la spec. B)
chip it and you're set.
a total sleeper

EDIT:
oops, dark templer already said it.
anyway,
put some nice rubber on it, turanza LS-Zs i highly recommend

Izari · October 17th, 2006, 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vette Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izari

Audi RS4...
Audi S4
Audi A4 2.0T with tuning
Audi A4 3.2 stock
BMW 330xi stock
Mercedes C320 awd

...
Mazda is just uncool as an awd car
...
just me anti-mazda for no reason...

No offense meant really, but the Mazda here isn't made to be cool. It's for people who just want to go fast and don't care about image. The Mazda will drive better than any of those German tanks, even the RS4. Despite the RS4's colossal grunt, it's tuned like all Audis, to be very safe, sanitised and boring.

i want to see what the mazda does on the top gear track...
audi s4 with old stig did a pretty damn fast time for a 50grand car...
and rs4 was pretty damn fast for an 80 grand car
i doubt mazda can match either...
if it can match the rx-8 and 350z times that'd be frigging unbelievable (imo)

logo · October 17th, 2006, 3:59 AM

Quote:

Can you guys recommend something in this range as alternative and comparison? Just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. I don't want a CUV (like a Infinity FX35) either.

the infiniti FX's are sexy bebe 8) they sound amazing too ..

why don't you wait till next year then decide what to buy, maybe new cars will launch by then, duh images/smilies/tongue.gif

October 16th, 2006, 2:46 PM	#1
Samir Joined: Aug 29th, 2006 Last Online: July 7th, 2009 Posts: 377 Car: 2005 Honda Accord EX-L, 2002 Ford Mustang LX Rep Power: 14	Thinking of a new car next year... Here's what I want -4 doors -AWD -Decent 0-60 -Leather, preferably heated and cooled -Sun roof -Good lumbar support -Sat nav So far the two cars I'm looking at are the MazdaSpeed 6 and the Subaru Legacy, but I dont know if I can get all those options on these cars. I will be specking them out soon. Can you guys recommend something in this range as alternative and comparison? Just want to be sure I haven't missed anything. I don't want a CUV (like a Infinity FX35) either.

October 16th, 2006, 3:34 PM	#2
Militant-Grunt Joined: Mar 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: New York City Age: 22 Posts: 526 Car: Audi A4 01.0 1.8T Quattro Rep Power: 26	AUDI A4 2.0T Quattro good tuning potential, luxary, decent 0-60, a very comfortable car. about mid 30s decked out. The Legacy GT is a good choice, so is the mazdaspeed 6, but you cant beat interior quality when it comes to audi, my 98 has a better interior than a 06 mazda 6. __________________ -Militant Grunt 2001.0 Audi A4 1.8T

October 16th, 2006, 5:17 PM	#3
Dins Joined: Jul 27th, 2005 Last Online: 12:17 PM Location: Duesseldorf, Germany Age: 24 Posts: 855 Car: 325i Rep Power: 28	330xi is another option. depends what you want to spend. __________________ "[...] Front wheel drive is the work of satan." - James May "Yes." - Mika Hakkinen

October 16th, 2006, 9:00 PM	#4
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,993 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	Personally, I would lean for the Mazda Speed 6. I was behind on on an on-ramp a few months ago, when the light went green the car just disappeared - no smoke or fishtailing back end or any of that drama; just one minute it was there and the next it was a red speck down the highway making for the fast lane. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

October 16th, 2006, 9:16 PM	#6
bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: University of Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 8,810 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 79	i like the Mazdaspeed 6 interior more so than the Legacy GT, the 6 is cheaper and more powerful. But speed-wise they are more less similar, the GT isnt that much more expensive and the Legacy's reliability has been established. __________________

October 16th, 2006, 9:14 PM	#5
3Colin Joined: Jun 28th, 2005 Last Online: November 18th, 2009 Location: Markham or Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Posts: 340 Car: Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 0	I own a Legacy, it's quite a car. I think you can't go wrong with a Legacy GT, as long as you're not expecting BMW-level precision and body control. The Mazdaspeed 6 is a bit more powerful, but quite a bit less refined and not as good looking.

October 16th, 2006, 10:52 PM	#9
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 11:47 AM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,294 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 91	As I was reading your description, I was thinking Subaru __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

October 16th, 2006, 11:10 PM	#10
The_Clincher Joined: Nov 21st, 2005 Last Online: December 15th, 2008 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	^^ same here , but some of your best bets would definately be the mazdaspeed6 or the legacy GT, which they just made some improvements on (SI drive, more ergonomic stuff, telescoping wheel i think? mayb some othrs) but id look at the audi 2.0T 1st, but thats just because i love audi's with a firey passion of lust

October 17th, 2006, 12:35 AM	#11
Izari Resident Forum Noob Joined: May 25th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2008 Location: Villanova Age: 24 Posts: 638 Car: 330XI Rep Power: 19	Audi RS4... Audi S4 Audi A4 2.0T with tuning Audi A4 3.2 stock BMW 330xi stock Mercedes C320 awd ... Mazda is just uncool as an awd car ... just me anti-mazda for no reason... __________________ First car - Audi A4 5MTQ (Traded in) Second Car - Nissan 350Z 6MT (Traded in) Third Car - BMW 330XI 5MT (Daily Driver)

October 17th, 2006, 1:56 AM	#13
Izari Resident Forum Noob Joined: May 25th, 2005 Last Online: December 28th, 2008 Location: Villanova Age: 24 Posts: 638 Car: 330XI Rep Power: 19	preowned B6/B7 S4 is not bad like 35k __________________ First car - Audi A4 5MTQ (Traded in) Second Car - Nissan 350Z 6MT (Traded in) Third Car - BMW 330XI 5MT (Daily Driver)

October 17th, 2006, 2:31 AM	#15
Dark_Templer_102 Joined: Jul 17th, 2004 Last Online: 9:11 AM Location: Alpharetta, Georgia. U.S.A Posts: 1,677 Car: Subaru Legacy GT Rep Power: 0	Mazda has that weird FWD most of the time and then AWD when it needs it. Also, i think it has heat-soak problems..however, I do love the interior! If you get a Legacy GT (I have one and recommend it...wonder why) A major factor in the car's handleing is the car's stock RE92s....Personally, i recommend a Spec-B, front and rear sway bars, Cobb AP with a TDC tune, maybe new springs if you REALLY care (the struts are stiff, but yet they put some mushy springs on). And you can go Stage 2 and really improve the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. 4.7 0-60ish... Basicly, Legacy has all you want except air-cooled seats and "good" lumbar support is only for you to define. Not to mention theres a great legacy community online! __________________

October 17th, 2006, 2:35 AM	#16
watto Unloved and lacking a title Joined: Jun 13th, 2005 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 5,707 Car: MY06 Impreza 2.0R Hatch Rep Power: 73	As I was reading the description of what you wanted, I thought "You need a WRX"... But hell, a Legacy/Liberty GT is a wonderful car and looks awesome, I also think it's a bit more of a sleeper than the Mazda 6 MPS.

October 17th, 2006, 2:57 AM	#17
Dark_Templer_102 Joined: Jul 17th, 2004 Last Online: 9:11 AM Location: Alpharetta, Georgia. U.S.A Posts: 1,677 Car: Subaru Legacy GT Rep Power: 0	Oh also a good thing with the LGT is that...its a total sleeper! __________________

October 17th, 2006, 3:29 AM	#18
sgb33f Joined: Dec 3rd, 2005 Last Online: October 27th, 2009 Location: SG Posts: 92 Rep Power: 0	legacy GT and spec out the suspension w/ sti kits. (a la spec. B) chip it and you're set. a total sleeper EDIT: oops, dark templer already said it. anyway, put some nice rubber on it, turanza LS-Zs i highly recommend __________________ The North South Highway: Singapore's very own backyard Autobahn

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