What would you get instead of a 3-series?

Danny Tran · April 12th, 2006, 8:14 AM

Wether you agree with Fezza or not on how awfully generic the latest BMW 3-series is, I'm wondering what would be your presonal opinion on this.

Fezza has professed his love for the Ford Mondeo or Alfa Romeo Brera. Other than a super track-car (ala Exige, Sagaris, Atom) what ride would you get for about the same money, same segment or not.

I'm tempted to say G35 coupé or an Acura TSX (EUDM Honda Accord).

Maybe even a Nissan Murano.

http://www.milencheto.us/blue%5Ffall//bluegs_06.jpg

http://www.autocarparts.com/images/products/Acura/AcuraTSX/TSX-S_Front.jpg

http://www.autoconsult.ch/news/murano/images/nissan_murano_1.jpg

SL65 · April 12th, 2006, 8:18 AM

The new Lexus IS:
http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic...=256356#256356

Its terrific value and a solid substitute for a German car.

I don't know too much about the G35 so I wouldn't know and the Accord seems like a class below. An Alfa...you paying for the looks. A C-Class is old.

I still think the 3-Series is the daddy, if you can get over the rear end looks.

Firecat · April 12th, 2006, 8:24 AM

Yeah, the 3-series is still the boss. I mean c'mon...BMW has proved that they can make the cars look hideous, and people will still buy them because they are good cars LOL. And the 3-series isn't as bad as the 5 series (or even the 7 series).

watto · April 12th, 2006, 8:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL65AMG~V12~612BHP!!!!!!!

The new Lexus IS:
http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic...=256356#256356

Exactly the one I would have said.

Looks much nicer, doesn't cost as much and has as many, if not more, bells and whistles.

Danny Tran · April 12th, 2006, 8:27 AM

Good point, SL65AMG~V12~612BHP!!!!!!!.

I had forgotten about the is. Seems to have just as much power as the G35 but a newer engine design. I dont really care about brand names or image status so it might be alright. (Know if it comes with an LSD?)

G35 btw is an alongated version of the 350z chassis which makes a 2+2. Similar chassis, same engine and it makes that nice drone with the racy exhausts.

more pics:
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55016

A very good looking car each time i see one.

There is a new one coming out in the near future:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/Ricky_da_gr8/0602_infiniti_coupe_03.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/Ricky_da_gr8/jan8in_2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/Ricky_da_gr8/infiniti_coupe_1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/Ricky_da_gr8/jan8in_5.jpg

more pics:
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86518

Danny Tran · April 12th, 2006, 8:35 AM

I'm starting to fantasize that a G35 with an aftermarket supercharged would make a badass GT!

SL65 · April 12th, 2006, 8:42 AM

Danny Tran - Saw pic of concept interior in the Best Interiors thread....looks really cool to me!

Now what is the correct thing to say - the G35 is American or Japanese?

wahaha · April 12th, 2006, 9:14 AM

hahaha... i read someone put twin turbos or a supercharger on the new 350z, and it didn't do squat for performance. And since the G35 uses the same engine....

Audi all the way. Exterior is about the same as BMW now, both ugly, but no one matches the interior of Audi. And that's where I do the driving and looking. AWD also comes into play where I live. The new RNS-E nav system seals the deal, 8GB of Mp3 with SD cards.

On top of that, I want a German car that's BUILT in Germany. 3 series is not.

pfrocker · April 12th, 2006, 9:17 AM

I really like the Lexus IS 350 more than that "lump of car" images/smilies/lol.gif

it's $1000-2000 cheaper and looks a lot better

G35 is good, but new one is coming soon

C-class...waiting for the new one

Alfa Romeo Brera images/smilies/eek.gif

, I'm in love with that (rumors of coming to the states in 2007 or 2008)...but I have to see if Alfa have improved their reliability issues.

So out of all of these I think the lexus is the best choice: good looking, decent price, reliable

fbc · April 12th, 2006, 9:19 AM

Keeping in the same segment - Audi A4

SL65 · April 12th, 2006, 9:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahaha

Audi all the way. Exterior is about the same as BMW now, both ugly, but no one matches the interior of Audi. And that's where I do the driving and looking. AWD also comes into play where I live. The new RNS-E nav system seals the deal, 8GB of Mp3 with SD cards.

On top of that, I want a German car that's BUILT in Germany. 3 series is not.

Audi is good looking and has a decent interior but based on reviews I've read that compare it to the competition, it simply doesn't drive as good. Also the engines aren't as powerfull generally speaking across the range.

And it doesn't really matter where the car is put together. I couldn't care less. For whatever reasons, manufacturers find it more efficiant and cheaper to build them in other countries to where they are designed and all the big manufacturers are doing it these days anyways.

pfrocker · April 12th, 2006, 9:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fbc

Keeping in the same segment - Audi A4

oh my god how could I forget that? yes that is a very good car, but it's not as fast as the lexus, but still a very good alternative

Blind_Io · April 12th, 2006, 9:36 AM

I'm going to go with the G35, pending my ability to actually fit in it.

Kermee · April 12th, 2006, 9:53 AM

http://www.clublexus.com/gallery/data/3491/medium/IMG_1996.JPG

E90's rear still kind of bother's me. The 5th Generation NAV in the new IS beats iDrive hands-down. Not to mention, the quality and attention to details in the interior of the IS wins hands down over BMW and Infiniti. Something Lexus continues to be very good at.

But for good sports performance driving? Definitely the E90/3-Series. Prefer a bit more luxury over sportiness? The IS 350. I have the IS 250 AWD and it's so quiet that it's too quiet sometimes. I drop it down a few gears and want to hear the exhaust note only to be met with a RPM meter going red while I feel the acceleration... Only to be rewarded with the quiet muffled sound of the stock dual-exhaust from a Toyota DFI engine. Hrm. images/smilies/smile.gif

Cheers,
Kermee

MixtriX · April 12th, 2006, 10:07 AM

based on looks alone (cos i havent been in one), i think the legacy looks pretty good...

http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/subaru-liberty-2006.jpg

jakifirbec · April 12th, 2006, 10:17 AM

Legacy is an awsome car.

But instead of the threeseries i'd take the S 60 volvo. I just like them.

Blind_Io · April 12th, 2006, 10:19 AM

If you are going with the S 60, might as well get the S 60 R

un-dee · April 12th, 2006, 11:04 AM

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5664/alfa159103small2rj.jpg

[imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_102.jpg[/img]
[imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_103.jpg[/img]
[imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_105.jpg[/img]
[imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_106.jpg[/img]
[imgfat]http://www.automobilismo.it/edisport/automobilismo/gallery.nsf/HFoto/AlfaRomeo159-2Foto18FotoGrande/$File/18.jpg[/img]

I think thats a no-brainer in that same segment. case closed.

P.S.: And for gods sake stop calling the guy Fezza. Calling Jezza already is disgusting. Jeremy or Clarkson is not that hard to type. And I can't find any F's in his name.

mod edit (SL65) : Please don't post large h-scroll breaking images. I have resized one image for you. You can do the rest if you want them displayed images/smilies/wink.gif

watto · April 12th, 2006, 11:46 AM

Holy re-size Batman!

I still stick by the IS250 option!

general · April 12th, 2006, 12:00 PM

Lexus IS 350.0 - 100 km/h in 5.4 secs.sound great enough.and imagine the comfort you get in a lexus.

April 12th, 2006, 8:14 AM	#1
Danny Tran or Tranny Dan? Joined: Dec 20th, 2004 Last Online: 8:31 AM Location: Montreal, Canadaland Age: 27 Posts: 862 Rep Power: 23	What would you get instead of a 3-series? Wether you agree with Fezza or not on how awfully generic the latest BMW 3-series is, I'm wondering what would be your presonal opinion on this. Fezza has professed his love for the Ford Mondeo or Alfa Romeo Brera. Other than a super track-car (ala Exige, Sagaris, Atom) what ride would you get for about the same money, same segment or not. I'm tempted to say G35 coupé or an Acura TSX (EUDM Honda Accord). Maybe even a Nissan Murano. __________________ You utter PIRATES!!

April 12th, 2006, 8:24 AM	#3
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 6:42 AM Posts: 4,449 Rep Power: 48	Yeah, the 3-series is still the boss. I mean c'mon...BMW has proved that they can make the cars look hideous, and people will still buy them because they are good cars LOL. And the 3-series isn't as bad as the 5 series (or even the 7 series). __________________

April 12th, 2006, 8:27 AM	#5
Danny Tran or Tranny Dan? Joined: Dec 20th, 2004 Last Online: 8:31 AM Location: Montreal, Canadaland Age: 27 Posts: 862 Rep Power: 23	Good point, SL65AMG~V12~612BHP!!!!!!!. I had forgotten about the is. Seems to have just as much power as the G35 but a newer engine design. I dont really care about brand names or image status so it might be alright. (Know if it comes with an LSD?) G35 btw is an alongated version of the 350z chassis which makes a 2+2. Similar chassis, same engine and it makes that nice drone with the racy exhausts. more pics: http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55016 A very good looking car each time i see one. There is a new one coming out in the near future: more pics: http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86518 __________________ You utter PIRATES!!

April 12th, 2006, 8:35 AM	#6
Danny Tran or Tranny Dan? Joined: Dec 20th, 2004 Last Online: 8:31 AM Location: Montreal, Canadaland Age: 27 Posts: 862 Rep Power: 23	I'm starting to fantasize that a G35 with an aftermarket supercharged would make a badass GT! __________________ You utter PIRATES!!

April 12th, 2006, 9:14 AM	#8
wahaha Joined: Jan 2nd, 2006 Last Online: June 29th, 2009 Location: Univ. of Michigan Posts: 108 Car: Audi A6 2.7T, not going to show off by listing all Rep Power: 0	hahaha... i read someone put twin turbos or a supercharger on the new 350z, and it didn't do squat for performance. And since the G35 uses the same engine.... Audi all the way. Exterior is about the same as BMW now, both ugly, but no one matches the interior of Audi. And that's where I do the driving and looking. AWD also comes into play where I live. The new RNS-E nav system seals the deal, 8GB of Mp3 with SD cards. On top of that, I want a German car that's BUILT in Germany. 3 series is not. __________________

April 12th, 2006, 8:18 AM	#2
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: November 10th, 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 9,299 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 46	The new Lexus IS: http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic...=256356#256356 Its terrific value and a solid substitute for a German car. I don't know too much about the G35 so I wouldn't know and the Accord seems like a class below. An Alfa...you paying for the looks. A C-Class is old. I still think the 3-Series is the daddy, if you can get over the rear end looks.

April 12th, 2006, 8:42 AM	#7
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Last Online: November 10th, 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 9,299 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 46	Danny Tran - Saw pic of concept interior in the Best Interiors thread....looks really cool to me! Now what is the correct thing to say - the G35 is American or Japanese?

April 12th, 2006, 9:17 AM	#9
pfrocker Joined: Jan 22nd, 2006 Last Online: 2:40 AM Location: San Francisco, California, USA Age: 21 Posts: 2,137 Rep Power: 45	I really like the Lexus IS 350 more than that "lump of car" it's $1000-2000 cheaper and looks a lot better G35 is good, but new one is coming soon C-class...waiting for the new one Alfa Romeo Brera , I'm in love with that (rumors of coming to the states in 2007 or 2008)...but I have to see if Alfa have improved their reliability issues. So out of all of these I think the lexus is the best choice: good looking, decent price, reliable

April 12th, 2006, 9:19 AM	#10
fbc Moderator Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Last Online: November 11th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 34 Posts: 11,776 Car: 2006 MY07 Astra SRi Turbo Rep Power: 128	Keeping in the same segment - Audi A4 __________________ www.sniffpetrol.com

April 12th, 2006, 9:36 AM	#13
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 9:40 AM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,995 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	I'm going to go with the G35, pending my ability to actually fit in it. __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

April 12th, 2006, 9:53 AM	#14
Kermee Joined: Apr 10th, 2006 Last Online: April 24th, 2006 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	E90's rear still kind of bother's me. The 5th Generation NAV in the new IS beats iDrive hands-down. Not to mention, the quality and attention to details in the interior of the IS wins hands down over BMW and Infiniti. Something Lexus continues to be very good at. But for good sports performance driving? Definitely the E90/3-Series. Prefer a bit more luxury over sportiness? The IS 350. I have the IS 250 AWD and it's so quiet that it's too quiet sometimes. I drop it down a few gears and want to hear the exhaust note only to be met with a RPM meter going red while I feel the acceleration... Only to be rewarded with the quiet muffled sound of the stock dual-exhaust from a Toyota DFI engine. Hrm. Cheers, Kermee __________________ 2006 IS 250 AWD Black/Black w/Gen5 NAV + Preferred Accessory Pkg. -=- Kermee's Toy! 2006 IS 250 RWD SGM/Black w/Gen5 NAV + Premium Pkg. -=- Girlfriend's Toy!

April 12th, 2006, 10:07 AM	#15
MixtriX Joined: Jun 16th, 2004 Last Online: January 12th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia (originally from London, UK) Age: 24 Posts: 533 Rep Power: 0	based on looks alone (cos i havent been in one), i think the legacy looks pretty good... __________________

April 12th, 2006, 10:17 AM	#16
jakifirbec Joined: Feb 10th, 2006 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Slovenija Age: 31 Posts: 713 Car: Mazda 6 Rep Power: 18	Legacy is an awsome car. But instead of the threeseries i'd take the S 60 volvo. I just like them.

April 12th, 2006, 10:19 AM	#17
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 9:40 AM Location: Utah, USA Age: 28 Posts: 10,995 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 266	If you are going with the S 60, might as well get the S 60 R __________________ War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

April 12th, 2006, 11:04 AM	#18
un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 25 Posts: 1,482 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 35	[imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_102.jpg[/img] [imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_103.jpg[/img] [imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_105.jpg[/img] [imgfat]http://www.econ.kuleuven.be/public/ndbaf47/Wallpapers/Alfa%20Romeo/alfa_159_106.jpg[/img] [imgfat]http://www.automobilismo.it/edisport/automobilismo/gallery.nsf/HFoto/AlfaRomeo159-2Foto18FotoGrande/$File/18.jpg[/img] I think thats a no-brainer in that same segment. case closed. P.S.: And for gods sake stop calling the guy Fezza. Calling Jezza already is disgusting. Jeremy or Clarkson is not that hard to type. And I can't find any F's in his name. mod edit (SL65) : Please don't post large h-scroll breaking images. I have resized one image for you. You can do the rest if you want them displayed

Welcome to the FinalGear.com Forums!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

April 12th, 2006, 11:46 AM	#19
watto Unloved and lacking a title Joined: Jun 13th, 2005 Last Online: 3:33 AM Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 5,708 Car: MY06 Impreza 2.0R Hatch Rep Power: 73	Holy re-size Batman! I still stick by the IS250 option!

April 12th, 2006, 12:00 PM	#20
general Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: September 3rd, 2008 Location: Shah Alam,Malaysia Posts: 219 Rep Power: 0	Lexus IS 350.0 - 100 km/h in 5.4 secs.sound great enough.and imagine the comfort you get in a lexus.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search