Why are Jaguars so cheap?

Overheat · January 13th, 2005, 12:22 AM

Just been looking at second hand cars and noticed that Jags are incredibly cheap, anyone know why this is?

Here's some examples:

£250 - 1990 JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 4.2, 4dr Auto 150000 miles
£395 - 1988 E Reg JAGUAR Sovereign 3.6, 4 Doors, Automatic, Saloon, Electric, 110,000 miles.
£450 - 1993 JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 4.0, 4dr Auto Saloon
£495 - 1989 F Reg Jaguar XJ6 3590 cc, 4 Doors, Automatic, SALOON, Petrol.
£599 - F Reg JAGUAR XJ SERIES 3, Manual, Petrol, 120,000 miles.
£650 - 1988 JAGUAR XJ6 Auto, E reg.
£693 - JAGUAR Sovereign 3.2, 4 Doors, Manual, Saloon, Petrol.
£699 - G Reg JAGUAR XJ SERIES XJ6 2.9 AUTO, 4 Doors, Automatic, Saloon, Petrol.
£750 - JAGUAR XJRS, F reg. Met Blue, e/h/seats, FJSH.

This is just the first page from www.autotrader.co.uk but there are 3 pages before it even gets over £1000. Can someone explain to me what's wrong with these cars as I find Jaguars quite attractive.

***EDIT - can someone alter my title to remove the grammatical error please? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Ultra_Kool_Dude · January 13th, 2005, 12:27 AM

I've heard that they basically fall apart after a few years - and the parts are really expensive.

Cruzz563 · January 13th, 2005, 1:38 AM

Title fixed, incarceration by grammar police, averted. images/smilies/cop_light.gif

justin syder · January 13th, 2005, 2:34 AM

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Title fixed, incarceration by grammar police, averted.

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Just been looking at second hand cars and noticed that Jags are incredibly cheap, anyone know why this is

Because Ford makes them, i dont know... images/smilies/unsure.gif

haha604 · January 13th, 2005, 3:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra_Kool_Dude

I've heard that they basically fall apart after a few years - and the parts are really expensive.

You hit it right on the nail. In Canada at least, Jaguar parts are very expensive.

haha604 · January 13th, 2005, 3:44 AM

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Originally Posted by justin syder

Because Ford makes them, i dont know... images/smilies/unsure.gif

Actually Ford improved Jaguar images/smilies/lol.gif

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Dr. Woo · January 13th, 2005, 5:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra_Kool_Dude

I've heard that they basically fall apart after a few years - and the parts are really expensive.

Yup...unreliable and expensive to fix.

VUK · January 13th, 2005, 6:13 AM

the problem with jags is that the parts are expensive, therefore if anything goes wrong it will never get fixed.

10 year old jag has loads of problems

LoudPipe · January 13th, 2005, 6:39 AM

They're also full of electrical problems

andyhui01 · January 13th, 2005, 6:50 AM

Jaguars have generally no re-sale value... cars like Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Volkswagon, Saab and Volvo's depreciate really fast here... just wanna ask is it the same in where you live?

Jostyrostelli · January 13th, 2005, 7:23 AM

As far as I know Volkswagen has a very good re-sal value after many years. I think Volvo is about the same, but don't know too much about it.
And as Jeremy said, Alfa is kinda bad 8)

andyhui01 · January 13th, 2005, 7:25 AM

volvo is not too bad in depreciation... but compared to japanese cars... all european and scandinavian cars don't do so well in keeping their value

LoudPipe · January 13th, 2005, 10:34 AM

Out of the quality cars French & Italian depreciate fastest over here... Seats and Skodas also depreciate quite quickly. German, Swedish & Japanese keep their value.

andyhui01 · January 13th, 2005, 11:16 AM

you practically loose all your money when you buy a skoda here... images/smilies/lol.gif

... but tbh... it isn't that bad... better than the protons we get here

qube · January 13th, 2005, 1:16 PM

I had a mate who bought a new Jag XKR, black with cream leather interior and all the options.

Cost about £75K

Sold it 3 years later and struggled to get £35 for it despite being mint and low milage.

My dad drives a 93 Sovereign, has never gone wrong but it's worth nothing now.

Parts are a killer though not as expensive as performance Jap stuff.

Matthew

mmap · January 13th, 2005, 3:11 PM

One important issue also affecting the value, insurance. They are bloody expensive for Jags...

Renesis · January 13th, 2005, 3:40 PM

I was stunned yesterday after watching a TG review of the XK8, I looked and found a nice 1997 XK8 Coupe with 66000km's on it for 35k CDN

although it starts to be a bit old it's still produced and looks almost exactly like a brand now one that sells for 96k

http://www.vuquebec.net/gestion/ImagesVoitures/ACQ/ACQ0451_1.jpg

I found a convert for 30k price but it has 100k km's on it, still what a deal!

also this 2000 XJ8 with only 26000km on it for... 30k!!!! WOW! this is very cheap, what a huge depreciation

http://www.decarie.com/usedcarpics/514DCMOTORS/367516.jpg

marcos_eirik · January 13th, 2005, 6:18 PM

If you buy a Jag like that, and you know how to fix things... You're up for a rea bargain.

However, the biggest problem for those who sells their old XJs is peoples prejudice. After Ford came along Jags became very reliable, so it doesent really mean you have to fix things dayly...

mmap · January 13th, 2005, 6:49 PM

There was a piece in top gear some years back (in the time of Quentin) where they looked at a Jag XJR and an Audi A8, both were 5 years old and both on the market for 10K!!! Talk about depreciation. Been wanting to make a pilgrimage to the UK used cars sales lot ever since images/smilies/smile.gif

Just wish the damn taxes weren't so bloody high for importing in here...

ruuman · January 13th, 2005, 8:04 PM

The other reason is that dam V12 engine, jes is it complex, bloody great engine though, apprently it's not to hard to get it tuned up to 800HP unfortunatly the car will destroy it's self with that much power.

Also british leyland have a lot to blamed for by build them so badly for years jaguar just has a rep for being crap. I don't think has been true for a long time (since ford really). But luxury cars are always bad for depreciation, A8's, 7 series BMW's drop like a stone. tempting isn't images/smilies/smile.gif

January 13th, 2005, 12:22 AM	#1
Overheat Joined: Sep 7th, 2004 Last Online: November 29th, 2009 Location: Bradford, UK Posts: 5,735 Rep Power: 30	Why are Jaguars so cheap? Just been looking at second hand cars and noticed that Jags are incredibly cheap, anyone know why this is? Here's some examples: £250 - 1990 JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 4.2, 4dr Auto 150000 miles £395 - 1988 E Reg JAGUAR Sovereign 3.6, 4 Doors, Automatic, Saloon, Electric, 110,000 miles. £450 - 1993 JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 4.0, 4dr Auto Saloon £495 - 1989 F Reg Jaguar XJ6 3590 cc, 4 Doors, Automatic, SALOON, Petrol. £599 - F Reg JAGUAR XJ SERIES 3, Manual, Petrol, 120,000 miles. £650 - 1988 JAGUAR XJ6 Auto, E reg. £693 - JAGUAR Sovereign 3.2, 4 Doors, Manual, Saloon, Petrol. £699 - G Reg JAGUAR XJ SERIES XJ6 2.9 AUTO, 4 Doors, Automatic, Saloon, Petrol. £750 - JAGUAR XJRS, F reg. Met Blue, e/h/seats, FJSH. This is just the first page from www.autotrader.co.uk but there are 3 pages before it even gets over £1000. Can someone explain to me what's wrong with these cars as I find Jaguars quite attractive. ***EDIT - can someone alter my title to remove the grammatical error please? __________________

January 13th, 2005, 12:27 AM	#2
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VUK VIP Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: March 1st, 2009 Location: UK Posts: 430 Car: 2001 BMW M5 CARBON BLACK Rep Power: 0	the problem with jags is that the parts are expensive, therefore if anything goes wrong it will never get fixed. 10 year old jag has loads of problems __________________

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: December 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,527 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 33	Jaguars have generally no re-sale value... cars like Alfa Romeo, Peugeot, Volkswagon, Saab and Volvo's depreciate really fast here... just wanna ask is it the same in where you live? __________________

January 13th, 2005, 7:23 AM	#11
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: April 25th, 2009 Posts: 8,062 Rep Power: 33	As far as I know Volkswagen has a very good re-sal value after many years. I think Volvo is about the same, but don't know too much about it. And as Jeremy said, Alfa is kinda bad 8) __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: December 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,527 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 33	volvo is not too bad in depreciation... but compared to japanese cars... all european and scandinavian cars don't do so well in keeping their value __________________

January 13th, 2005, 10:34 AM	#13
LoudPipe Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: May 16th, 2005 Posts: 79 Rep Power: 0	Out of the quality cars French & Italian depreciate fastest over here... Seats and Skodas also depreciate quite quickly. German, Swedish & Japanese keep their value. __________________ BMW E28 520i/M5 - BMW E21 315/1.8i - Mk3 Mini 1300 - Mk2 Mini 1000 - Citroen AX Sport - '62 Ford Taunus Past cars: Mustang Cobra Convertible - Chrysler 300M - Dodge Neon - Dodge Caravan - Ford Escort

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andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: December 28th, 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 8,527 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 33	you practically loose all your money when you buy a skoda here... ... but tbh... it isn't that bad... better than the protons we get here __________________

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qube Joined: Dec 9th, 2004 Last Online: October 9th, 2008 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 266 Rep Power: 0	I had a mate who bought a new Jag XKR, black with cream leather interior and all the options. Cost about £75K Sold it 3 years later and struggled to get £35 for it despite being mint and low milage. My dad drives a 93 Sovereign, has never gone wrong but it's worth nothing now. Parts are a killer though not as expensive as performance Jap stuff. Matthew

January 13th, 2005, 3:11 PM	#16
mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: 1:10 PM Location: Finland Age: 30 Posts: 1,320 Rep Power: 24	One important issue also affecting the value, insurance. They are bloody expensive for Jags...

January 13th, 2005, 3:40 PM	#17
Renesis Lazier than Viper Joined: Nov 27th, 2003 Last Online: February 17th, 2010 Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 9,669 Car: 2007 Pontiac G5 GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 36	I was stunned yesterday after watching a TG review of the XK8, I looked and found a nice 1997 XK8 Coupe with 66000km's on it for 35k CDN although it starts to be a bit old it's still produced and looks almost exactly like a brand now one that sells for 96k I found a convert for 30k price but it has 100k km's on it, still what a deal! also this 2000 XJ8 with only 26000km on it for... 30k!!!! WOW! this is very cheap, what a huge depreciation

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mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: 1:10 PM Location: Finland Age: 30 Posts: 1,320 Rep Power: 24	There was a piece in top gear some years back (in the time of Quentin) where they looked at a Jag XJR and an Audi A8, both were 5 years old and both on the market for 10K!!! Talk about depreciation. Been wanting to make a pilgrimage to the UK used cars sales lot ever since Just wish the damn taxes weren't so bloody high for importing in here...

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ruuman Joined: Sep 16th, 2004 Last Online: 9:51 AM Location: surrey, UK Age: 30 Posts: 649 Car: Defender 90, suzuki SJ410, Suzuki DL-650 Rep Power: 23	The other reason is that dam V12 engine, jes is it complex, bloody great engine though, apprently it's not to hard to get it tuned up to 800HP unfortunatly the car will destroy it's self with that much power. Also british leyland have a lot to blamed for by build them so badly for years jaguar just has a rep for being crap. I don't think has been true for a long time (since ford really). But luxury cars are always bad for depreciation, A8's, 7 series BMW's drop like a stone. tempting isn't

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